ScholarOfTheFirstSin

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TOBS can't let three updates pass without indulging his fetish.
Yeeah like wtf this runt's writing always so philosopichal and shit
i get it you love samurai and japan all that kind of things
but you dont have to keep deepthroating player with your fucking ideology
this guy literally get off by listening Asia history and lore
 
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Shiro15

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The kitsune alteration is essentially what the "tf changes" are, as of now it's just keros but it's planned to have at least a few other options of selling your soul to gods for the perma tf that does give you unique stuff, particularly strong stuff that serves as "selling points" and story alterations. I dunno if there's something for remaining neutral but I'd friggin' hope there'd be something connected to Kas.
Not saying you're lying. I absolutely believe they would say there going to do something like story alterations for joining certain god factions. My problem with this is if they are saying accounting for Berry's body variations are to difficult for them or they cannot be bothered to give him flavor text in the newer quest; so they instead remove him because its easier I highly doubt they'll put in enough effort for the story alterations to be meaningful. It is probably going to be something shallow interaction wise. (Like characters addressing you differently.) Altering the story in way that seems impactful based off which faction you join when done right is often a massive task. I believe there is 7 gods in this game. If they allow the player to join all 7, I cannot imagine they'll be down to rewrite certain scenes 7 times to account for all the variations.
 

liinh

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Their writest quickest thoughts when they write scenes is most likely. "Alright, let's write for my character, ignore the other writers!"
no bc this made me think and i think one of the biggest things that could improve coc ii overall is a sense of cohesion between the writers. idk all that much abt like their inner workings bc i don't rlly interact w anything offical of theirs (forums, discord) but if they like even just occasionally had like a meeting about where they wanted things to go instead of all just writing whatever the fuck they wanted for whichever character they wanted i think it would make things much more.. cohesive instead of feeling like a world being taped together. less pressure on the writers to as well. like if everyone cohesively said "ok we want our next place to be khor'minos. let's develop it together" instead of "ok you do this while this other guy writes kitsune shit". seems like things would get done faster that way.

also just in general wish the writer would benefit from .. actually liking each other. from what i see of them in this thread it seems like instead of coworkers they r rivals lol. like tbf if i met tobs i wouldn't trust him with my characters either at this point but i wish an environment where everyones characters were respected and able to be used by everyone to further the story was established from the get go instead of every man for himself.

"this is MY oc how DARE you use them for this." seems to be the overarching opinion of some of the writers. and not even in a "i don't really think this fits the character" way just a "NOBODY CAN TOUCH MY SELF INSERT" way.
 

mide

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mide Berwyn was made by a different writer called HugsAlright. Due to drama (devs say he would disappear and impossible to work with due to anger issues, Hugs says he had mental health issues and was unfairly booted), Berwyn was passed off to a different writer, B, to work on. B already had his own companion and it wasn't feasible for him to work on both, so as far as I know it was decided around then that they would eventually get rid of Berwyn as a companion but they decided not to tell the public that.

Fast forward to them announcing Berwyn getting new content via B. People who like Berwyn are excited. The content comes out and they announce that Berwyn is considered "feature complete" and will be removed from companion status and turned into an npc. When it launched, there was no way to access Berwyn's old scenes but devs have since said that the old ones will be patched back in.

The reasons for getting rid of Berywn were no dedicated writer for him (idk if B himself said it was too much or Savin didn't want B doing 2 companions), he had very little to no party/quest interactions (because they had decided before he was getting axed so writer's didn't bother?). B also decided to go gung-ho on all of different body configuration for Berwyn in his new content - because he knew he wouldn't have to deal with it once Berwyn got removed as a companion. So if there was ever any hope of someone else taking him up (which I doubt), now they have to deal with the various different parsers and ~more complicated code~ for Berwyn.

That's how it went down as far as I understand it. I have no idea what Raf-Raf is talking about with polls and such (they hid Berwyn getting axed from the public until the patch with his new content dropped), someone get him another cactus.
this explains a lot more, still sucks they removed him. dont really give 2 shits about many of the other companions. if i do play this game again, im just gona make an immortal monsters and solo the game.
 

Shiro15

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"this is MY oc how DARE you use them for this." seems to be the overarching opinion of some of the writers. and not even in a "i don't really think this fits the character" way just a "NOBODY CAN TOUCH MY SELF INSERT" way.
This is why the first thing my High-School creative writing teacher made us do was, create a character that we liked and then immediately made us ruin that characters life. Not saying people shouldn't enjoy or be somewhat invested in the characters they're writing. But everything should serve the story. Giving your characters conflicts or causing them to lose things makes them more dynamic. But, because everything turns out just fine all the time in this game everyone is incredibly flat.(with the exception in game defeats obviously)

They don't have to be. Cait literally loses her sister at the beginning of the game, which serves as the call to adventure for the protagonist/ inciting incident of the story. Cait should be the most motivated character (besides the protagonist as you probably don't want to get you soul fucked by 20inches of horsecock or maybe your characters does). She should be pushing the pc to get shit done the most. But instead shes all lol, "lets make temple where we can suck and fuck all day long. What you're questioning my ability to suck cock. I suck cock better than any fox priestess slut."

Brint/Brienne love the character, and thisis generally my only complaint about the character, but even when they change gender they don't really change much. To me it always felt like Brin went on all these cool adventures before the game even started. And when they meet the pc, they're pretty much ready to settle down. Someone could argue when they become Brienne they have a moment of crisis as they question if they're weaker now, but that is immediately resolved by the pc fucking them silly or chopping wood and then the pc fucking them silly.

This is oddly enough why Berry and Ethryn are my favorite characters, cause they change over the course of the game. Ethryn literally has a system that changes their personality. And I'm usually not into femboys. Personally I prefer cat girls so Cait is really slacking. She should get a free pass from me, but instead I always pass on her content.
 

MoneyMan181

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just like in CoC2 there was one guy soloing Kasyrra, and the devs decided to act against it because they can't handle a handful of people not playing the game as they intended it—just like they rebalanced crit damage just to make that Kasyrra fight impossible by yourself, because of the one guy doing it.
The fact that they did this is absolutely fucking laughable. Any gamedev that doesn't have a 20-inch stick up their ass would fucking applaud the effort and planning that shit took. Hell, I'm sure some would even have a little achievement or easter egg for doing just this. But what do these guys do? They fucking make it impossible to do because god fucking forbid someone so much as lays a scratch on their wonderful perfect dommy mommy kassy.

I seriously can't believe that, man. Some absolute madlad breaks the game in the best way and they literally just say: nofun.jpg
I can't man. I seriously can't even.
And I have never said that shit in my life before. That's how you know I mean it.
 

mide

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The fact that they did this is absolutely fucking laughable. Any gamedev that doesn't have a 20-inch stick up their ass would fucking applaud the effort and planning that shit took. Hell, I'm sure some would even have a little achievement or easter egg for doing just this. But what do these guys do? They fucking make it impossible to do because god fucking forbid someone so much as lays a scratch on their wonderful perfect dommy mommy kassy.

I seriously can't believe that, man. Some absolute madlad breaks the game in the best way and they literally just say: View attachment 1996142
I can't man. I seriously can't even.
And I have never said that shit in my life before. That's how you know I mean it.
would be fucking funny if the credits just roll and it ends there.
 

MoneyMan181

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would be fucking funny if the credits just roll and it ends there.
It really would be. Just have some text like:
"Well, you did it. You stopped Kassyra and her corruptive influence approximately halfway through the game. You beat the game without actually beating the game. Do you feel good about yourself? Do you feel accomplished? There is all this content you have yet to see, and here you are breaking our game. We applaud the effort but seriously, man? You sure you don't wanna maybe redo that fight and let yourself lose to the hot demon lady? She was gonna bake you cookies for crying out loud!"
[Insert player clicking they want to end the game right there]
"Well fuck you too, bud."
Game Overprick.

This is why the first thing my High-School creative writing teacher made us do was, create a character that we liked and then immediately made us ruin that characters life. Not saying people shouldn't enjoy or be somewhat invested in the characters they're writing. But everything should serve the story. Giving your characters conflicts or causing them to lose things makes them more dynamic. But, because everything turns out just fine all the time in this game everyone is incredibly flat.(with the exception in game defeats obviously)
Funny you say this, because Marble from CoC1 was actually planned to fucking kill herself under certain conditions! Here's the exercept from the wiki: "It was originally planned that Marble would commit suicide if the PC was able to resist her milk and had low to no affection with her. The PC would find her rotting corpse face down in the Lake. This idea was scrapped because it was 'making [Fen's] dick sad'."

Fucking wild, bro. I do agree with the decision to not add it though, doesn't really fit even within that game. Feel like it'd definitely scar some people:LUL:. So many of the characters in the original game had completely different design philosophies compared to this game's. CoC1 has a lot of flaws, but it wasn't afraid to let the characters suffer sometimes which really makes things feel more grounded and less like the sort of "play" that this one does.
 
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The fact that they did this is absolutely fucking laughable. Any gamedev that doesn't have a 20-inch stick up their ass would fucking applaud the effort and planning that shit took. Hell, I'm sure some would even have a little achievement or easter egg for doing just this. But what do these guys do? They fucking make it impossible to do because god fucking forbid someone so much as lays a scratch on their wonderful perfect dommy mommy kassy.

I seriously can't believe that, man. Some absolute madlad breaks the game in the best way and they literally just say: View attachment 1996142
I can't man. I seriously can't even.
And I have never said that shit in my life before. That's how you know I mean it.
A secret achievement sounds about right. I have seen plenty of games do that.
 

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The fact that they did this is absolutely fucking laughable. Any gamedev that doesn't have a 20-inch stick up their ass would fucking applaud the effort and planning that shit took. Hell, I'm sure some would even have a little achievement or easter egg for doing just this. But what do these guys do? They fucking make it impossible to do because god fucking forbid someone so much as lays a scratch on their wonderful perfect dommy mommy kassy.

I seriously can't believe that, man. Some absolute madlad breaks the game in the best way and they literally just say: View attachment 1996142
I can't man. I seriously can't even.
And I have never said that shit in my life before. That's how you know I mean it.
The sheer gulf between the promise (be whatever you want, fuck whoever you want, build your character how you want) and the execution (you are only allowed to do things a certain way, you cannot argue against the many Sacred Cows of the game) is staggering. These are writers who genuinely get offended if you don't share their exact opinions on the characters they make, or don't tackle the game the way they want you to do.
 

Venyas

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Yeeah like wtf this runt's writing always so philosopichal and shit
i get it you love samurai and japan all that kind of things
but you dont have to keep deepthroating player with your fucking ideology
this guy literally get off by listening Asia history and lore
For it to be philosophical it has to have meaning, logic, ideals, and it doesn't.
He just regurgitates lines of text.
 

Wrynn13

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Not saying you're lying. I absolutely believe they would say there going to do something like story alterations for joining certain god factions. My problem with this is if they are saying accounting for Berry's body variations are to difficult for them or they cannot be bothered to give him flavor text in the newer quest; so they instead remove him because its easier I highly doubt they'll put in enough effort for the story alterations to be meaningful. It is probably going to be something shallow interaction wise. (Like characters addressing you differently.) Altering the story in way that seems impactful based off which faction you join when done right is often a massive task. I believe there is 7 gods in this game. If they allow the player to join all 7, I cannot imagine they'll be down to rewrite certain scenes 7 times to account for all the variations.
From what they have said only 3 of the gods will be available for you to become their champion. The shitsune god as we've already seen, the sun goddess who will turn you into a valkyrie, and the mander god of whatever that's barely been touched on.
 

Venyas

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From what they have said only 3 of the gods will be available for you to become their champion. The shitsune god as we've already seen, the sun goddess who will turn you into a valkyrie, and the mander god of whatever that's barely been touched on.
Kasy it is then.
Only god I would have debated selling my soul to would have been the stake/knowledge/whatever god
 

namelessone22

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From what I know, lotsa people bitched about Berwyn, devs probably got annoyed by 'em and just did it so they won't have anymore bitching from folks who want to remove Berwyn.

Now they probably have folks bitching about bringing back Berwyn after the update. :KEK:


The way I play the game is that I treat anything that is a fucking HERM as non-existent.
Sure I still do the questline only because of the loot I'll get but that character is DEAD to me.
I'll still let 'em join me for the party 'coz combat is a thing but interacting though? That's a line I will never cross.

It was great when they did De-dick Berwyn so they still appeared on my radar but they went poof so all that effort was all for nothing.

IF there's a way to de-dick any of these fucking herms, I WILL do it ASAP, My grand crusade of correcting what you should be ESPECIALLY if you don't like being a herm, I am more than glad to help you remove that piece of shit attached on you.
There are quite a few characters in CoC2 & TiTS (afair) that have been accidentally or forcibly transformed against their will - so wouldn't it at least be ok to put these back to the way they were?

(I may be wrong, but I think even the RomanCenturion chick in the Kitsune Forest was transformed against her will and not particularly happy about it
(* may be mixingup characters but was one of the few I could remember)
 

namelessone22

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yea this is the thing where i got to load game i hover my mouse over to file then press load and nothing happend its pissing me off
try doing it again straight after it fails to load.
I've edited my save and this happens almost every time for me.
(Load > nothing happens > try again > successful load > cheater message > good to go)

Hope it works for yours :)
 
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