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Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.33] [Savin/Salamander Studios]
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SAVIIIN YOU CUCK ONE OF YOUR WRITER TURNED INTO TOBS
SAVE WSAN AND THE OTHER
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She's also the only god so far not shown to be sex-related. Shame she's also pretty bad at her job if we're to take that argument scene to be representative of her.
But seriously, the others of the five gods/worshippers we've seen are:
Keros, rules over and acts like his pregnancy obsessed slutsunes
Lumia, her avatar is a giga-breasted amazon with plunging boob plate armour, rules over pregnancy obsessed dom/heat/rut orcs
Mallach, the only actual slut god, so I guess he gets a pass
Sora, rules over the pregnancy and egg obsessed harpies
Of the other two, Velun has been mentioned but his "Champion" isn't a very good representation of him.
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If you're wondering what the point I'm going for is then here. These don't seem like diverse characters or believable gods. They sound like more writer inserts, like everyone had to have their own sex god for their fetish, but they all shared the same fetish. So Nareva is refreshing, in that I can actually remember which one she is.
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I think we've seen Tira's champion already, they are in the cult. Also don't forget they aren't really gods.
Probably something similar to what LISA did where there's a fight that's supposed to be unwinnable(The boss will OHKO all your party) but you can status them to hell and kill them via poison while locking them down with stun/blind status effects. He calls you a cheater and an asshole and then gives you a game over.
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Doesn't change anything, they modeled themselves and represent the same things as the original.
The fact that they aren't the originals is supposed to basically be optional flavoring and will never be important most likely.
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Well I missed Tira's representative, she doesn't have a wiki page but then that's hardly surprising.
Also, while it's true that they're just soul eating extradimensional monsters pretending to be gods, they are all each meant to be distinct and have their own role to play in the pantheon. They each took on the mantle of the old gods which supposedly did once exist, acting like them. Seems like the old gods, and their charlatan replacements, were all in a competition to see who could make the most perverse breeding culture.
Real pantheons have gods who each represent distinct aspects of their culture's world, here we have Light themed pregnancy god, Egg/Bird themed pregnancy god, Being a dick themed pregnancy god (well really just soul vampires, but breeding was important enough to make a giant mural to it in their temples), and then a family planning themed sex god.
Who on earth do people pray to for non-sexed based content? If a blacksmith prayed to Lumia then it seems like they've got 50% odds on making a sword, or giving birth to twins.
Maybe this is why Nareva was having such a hard time in that argument scene, she's tired from having to do everyone elses jobs too.
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Seems kinda stupid that they would implement something that big for the lore and do absolutely nothing with it, especially if we're going to find out about it in-game. That shit would change the entire world if the information got out. It would just be a Chekhov's Gun if they didn't do anything with it. I'm all for small little lore details, but they have to be just that if they won't elaborate on it further. Small. Either that or pull some Dark Souls shit but they're obviously not doing that.
A whole bunch of nothings in the latest public patch. Man, I thought the Berwyn update would finally be something worth a shit but even that was a massive disappointment.
I hope that Brihaus isn't at least, whenever in the next century it gets added.
I hope that Brihaus isn't at least, whenever in the next century it gets added.
It doesn't come out and say they are Tira's champion, I'm just willing to bet Whisper pulling that dissolve into shadow BS was an ability he gained as Tira's champion. He's also said he was working with the cult for his own ends not theirs. Alternatively the one that one shots totally not Kas during the ring quest might be the champ, I think Whisper said something about being afraid of her or something.
Eh, I thought it was interesting enough on its own that it doesn't really need further elaboration. It doesn't really change anything given that they apparently are exactly the same as the originals, and it wasn't a huge event in the first place.
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I don't know, it's a pretty big deal. Imagine God came down from Heaven and said "Yo, I'm like, totally real bros. I've been here this whole time. Gonna be meddling in your affairs now too, okay? Talk soon." The world would implode from that event, not to mention the person that finds out that whatever is claiming to be God is not actually God. Bonus points if it's the same type of being that destroyed your most advanced civilization like in CoC2.
It absolutely should become an important plot point, especially since Kas has shown up and started fucking around. Like it's totally feasible for the story to lead to the "Gods" lifting their veils and being honest about their nature. Or a showdown between the New Gods and the Old Gods (who have finally decided to give a fuck). Or, Kas discovering their true nature and revealing it to the people of Savarrah. You would suddenly have much larger groups willing to work with her as what they thought was their Gods are just wraiths wearing skinsuits. And given that wraiths fucked up their world... they certainly wouldn't be happy that some fooled them into worshipping them. Dedicating their entire lives to the tenets that god set in place for them. Sacrifice after sacrifice... for a monster they thought was their god.
If they tell you and then it's just *shrug* "Oh well," it's just a waste. Sure it has that initial
and all, but after that... what does it offer?Not to mention that they're not the same as the originals, as the originals were more like our gods. They fucked around in the clouds and ignored us while we did whatever. These "New Gods" are meddling in mortal affairs, the revelation of their true identity on Earth and on Savarrah would be world-shattering.
Maybe if you've never been/been with someone extremely devout to their religion it's harder to understand how absolutely mindfuckingly cataclysmic finding something like that out would be, but it would be really really bad.
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It's also missing a perfect opportunity for some Glorious Deicide.
But I guess killing the "Gods" in a "No Masters" style way would be too much of a power fantasy. So no doubt Cait will smother Mallach to death with her butt while the champ cries in the corner.
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More I think about it, the more Kas finding out and exposing them makes sense. It gives you a reason to side with her aside from "we gonna get you some real babies" and provides context for the non-corrupted hostile NPCs. It also offers the opportunity for people willingly corrupting themselves as they align with Kasyrra. Edit: Left out the point of saying the last sentence. Through all these people corrupting themselves, it gives the opportunity for enemy mobs to be more corrupted overall. Like a subfaction of Khor Minos decides they're not down with the Gods and become more recognizable as the CoC1 minotaurs
Man, they have such potential just sitting there. Gathering dust.
But those people aren't the champ.
To the champ and his immediate goals, it's interesting trivia and nothing else. One super powerful being doing god stuff is actually a different super powerful being doing the same stuff is a big 'ol shrug.
Sure, it has massive theological implications- but little to no practical ones.
And iirc the lore leaves it ambiguous whether there even were originally gods or if they were just legends that never existed, unless I missed something.
Heck, maybe the original gods were also wraiths that fed on souls until they gained sentience.
Idk, I see it as just interesting background lore that the champ stumbles into. It could be more than that, but it doesn't really need to be.
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I get what you're saying, and I'd agree if this was a "slice of life" adventure. But it's not, it's a "fate of the world" adventure based after the fall of civilization. It's important to the champ and their goals because the goal is saving the world, and can you consider the world saved if it's in the hands of those that destroyed it? We don't know the "gods'" end game, if they're just feeding off of the populace until they're good and ready to move on.
Given that the game goes out of the way to make the gods the very same type of being that destroyed the world, I would say it has extreme practical implications. And sure the people most affected aren't the champ, but the champ deals with many people that are very devout. Do you not think that Cait would have a wonderful character arc if she finds out her god wasn't real?
The actual existence of the actual gods is irrelevant, just one way to go for the story. Their existence doesn't matter, it's the fact that
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Gonna hard disagree with you here. Because the Champ existed before the game begins, they don't just pop into the world through the portal. What if the champ is a priest? A scion of a noble house? Or, you know, a normal person raised in a world where the "gods" 100% provably exist.
Just because Kas has turned up doesn't change people's investment in what is a fundamental tenant of their world. If anything, as Tau_Iota pointed out, it's kind of more important for the context it gives to what Kas is doing.
Is Kas really any worse than the gods? You might wonder. Are the gods just like her as they too are invaders from another world.
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In my opinion, they're worse. They're not only manipulating the world in whatever way they feel like, they're hiding what they truly are to do it. Feeding off of people's belief that their gods have finally starting answering their prayers.
Kasyrra shows up and tells everyone from the jump, "I am here to FUCK. And have kids. Problem?" Like she's upfront about her goals. From Day 1, these "gods" have been deceitful. That's far more concerning, considering they have the believers and power to change anything they want at will.
See...that's not really the Champs goal, per se. They aren't a general purpose superhero. The champ is directly tied to Kass, and has to go after her. Sure, other stuff happens along the way, but that's the Champs and the games focus.
If the champ were going to do anything about the gods (and tbh, there's not really any reason they would want to) it would be past the events of this game, which has a fairly narrow focus when it comes to the story.
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From the main quest: That can't be a coincidence, can it? You sigh. "If we believe what Kasyrra said about coming to take my soul, not to mention her threatening to corrupt the whole world like herself, then I've got to find her. For my sake and everyone else's."
Generic hero-type going on a crusade. The champ's goal is saving the world, with their own personal stake as well
Edit: Also, it appears the champ is concerned about the well-being of their planet. Would the wraiths pretending to be gods not be a direct threat to said planet?