It doesn't come out and say they are Tira's champion, I'm just willing to bet Whisper pulling that dissolve into shadow BS was an ability he gained as Tira's champion. He's also said he was working with the cult for his own ends not theirs. Alternatively the one that one shots totally not Kas during the ring quest might be the champ, I think Whisper said something about being afraid of her or something.
Eh, I thought it was interesting enough on its own that it doesn't really need further elaboration. It doesn't really change anything given that they apparently are exactly the same as the originals, and it wasn't a huge event in the first place.
I don't know, it's a pretty big deal. Imagine God came down from Heaven and said "Yo, I'm like, totally real bros. I've been here this whole time. Gonna be meddling in your affairs now too, okay? Talk soon." The world would implode from that event, not to mention the person that finds out that whatever is claiming to be God is not actually God. Bonus points if it's the same type of being that destroyed your most advanced civilization like in CoC2.
and all, but after that... what does it offer?
It's also missing a perfect opportunity for some Glorious Deicide.
More I think about it, the more Kas finding out and exposing them makes sense. It gives you a reason to side with her aside from "we gonna get you some real babies" and provides context for the non-corrupted hostile NPCs. It also offers the opportunity for people willingly corrupting themselves as they align with Kasyrra. Edit: Left out the point of saying the last sentence. Through all these people corrupting themselves, it gives the opportunity for enemy mobs to be more corrupted overall. Like a subfaction of Khor Minos decides they're not down with the Gods and become more recognizable as the CoC1 minotaurs
I get what you're saying, and I'd agree if this was a "slice of life" adventure. But it's not, it's a "fate of the world" adventure based after the fall of civilization. It's important to the champ and their goals because the goal is saving the world, and can you consider the world saved if it's in the hands of those that destroyed it? We don't know the "gods'" end game, if they're just feeding off of the populace until they're good and ready to move on.
Gonna hard disagree with you here. Because the Champ existed before the game begins, they don't just pop into the world through the portal. What if the champ is a priest? A scion of a noble house? Or, you know, a normal person raised in a world where the "gods" 100% provably exist.
In my opinion, they're worse. They're not only manipulating the world in whatever way they feel like, they're hiding what they truly are to do it. Feeding off of people's belief that their gods have finally starting answering their prayers.
See...that's not really the Champs goal, per se. They aren't a general purpose superhero. The champ is directly tied to Kass, and has to go after her. Sure, other stuff happens along the way, but that's the Champs and the games focus.
From the main quest: That can't be a coincidence, can it? You sigh. "If we believe what Kasyrra said about coming to take my soul, not to mention her threatening to corrupt the whole world like herself, then I've got to find her. For my sake and everyone else's."
You are massively downplaying what Kas is all about.
Fair points, but you know her end game. These wraiths, you do not know what they have planned. They devoured enough souls and that just made them good?
More than likely they are far more insidious than they let on, because again, they gained their power and sentience by eating souls. Does that sound... familiar? Like how every kitsune has their soul devoured? And their "god" lies and says that it's just "keeping them safe." They aren't good. They're more or less treating the people of Savarrah like cattle. They gained sentience and realized "Ah jeez, if we let some live they'll go on to make more people. More people = more souls to eat = more power and food for us."I think your downplaying the gods seeing as they were the ones that started the godswar and only after killing hundred of thousands if not millions they grew a conscience and stopped the war
Kas is someone who, by her own admission, wants to corrupt or destroy you, depending on what path you're in (remember demon waifu path isn't the only one). She repeatedly gleefully proclaims her intentions to absolutely ruin your companions, the Frost Marches, the gids and the world at large.Fair points, but you know her end game. These wraiths, you do not know what they have planned. They devoured enough souls and that just made them good?
Sure Kas is a demon and does demonic things, but is the devil you know not better than the devil you don't?
Edit: There's even that bad end that explicitly showcases the devil you know is better, as you don't know what Tollus would do if he bested Kassyra without his bad end. It turns out, he's way worse.
We get that Kasyrra is evil. I'm not arguing she isn't. I'm aware she is, hence "the devil you know is better than the devil you don't." I'm saying, how can you trust entities that feed off of your soul. And not to mention, with every soul eaten they grow stronger. You are told the gods are good. You don't ever see them be good unless it serves their own interests. Kas has no effect on them aside from the portal she opens, which lets in something that does threaten their foodsource. Then they do the "good thing" and protect their food source. A hyena is not good for defending its meal, it's simply a hyena.
This doesn't make a lick of sense to me. So you're saying interesting ideas shouldn't explored? What? I legitimately don't understand this.
All the champ has to do is spread word that the gods are actually wraiths. You really think the soul suckers don't care about people finding out the people they worship are soul suckers?
I'm not a deeply religious person, so like Skan I generally don't care about religion whether in a fictional game or real life. But, I've said this before I hate how even after becoming Keros's champion and offering your soul to him the thing Kas is after, and the champions whole reason for being invested in this quest, your character is essentially told to sit down, shut up and try not to embarrass Kiyoko and Kinu in the Kitsune Den.
