Quintilus

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If carmen a cumpire, what, glorious ex paladin DO NOT detected foul beast for a...how much he did lived there? Or hes the same kind of paladins as old wow had/have, in case of any danger cast "bubble" -> cast "return to town". Same question for other village wannabe old-timers.

Oh no, I get it. Its so obvious, it always was right under the plain sight...
Player should reach carmen castle, learn flying demonic horse cock tuum...ehh...call, use it, wait arrival of kassyra and then throw carmen into kassyra. She will continuously suck her dry and she wouldnt have time on...whatever she was doing...nothing I guess...
Win-win, player neutralized kassyra, carmen get an infinite source of semen (stained but whatever, sanders should have use smite on her each three days).
Now its only a question how to deal with....what the name of main villain, again?! Savin?!
 

teddidiah

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So right from the beginning they didnt had even a rough template for a story past the, what...middle point?! Lovely.
Pretty much. Honestly, given the development time I think it's realistic to acknowledge things might change around that point.

Although I lied, there was also a sea adventure planned.
 

Shiro15

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I can kind of get the rivalry though, they both were part of the same group fighting the wraiths during the war and one went a light path (devouring the cum of virgins somehow being light) and one went a dark path (destroying the souls of her daughters, yeah pretty fucking dark.) Come to think of it Carmen's light path might have nothing to do with being a cumpire (still stupid) because she does mention a oath she took to harm nothing living which is why she couldn't defend the town.
My main issue is that no-one is actively hostile or getting in each others way. This is an issue with every faction. With maybe the exception being the centaur's and mares as they often breed with one another. The kitsunes apparently have beef with the Tanuki's ,and while yes evergreen can send you on a quest to genocide the fuck out of those pretentious, racist bastards thats the only time factions actively interact with one another in a way that causes real conflict beyond story related quest.

This could be a whole interesting aspect of the story. If you're working with the Kitsune's Evergreen could refuse to help increase your pregnancy speed or prevent you from buying stuff from her daughters. You could work with Carmen and Keros to destroy Evergreen, as both the cumpire and fox sluts survive through sex. How you work with faction could effect Hawthorne and lead to you gaining unique abilities and making each play-through something special. But nope everyone lives with in miles of each other have a rivalry with one another and never do anything about it. There cool with you interacting with there supposed enemies. When you could be a possible spy and sharing information with people who don't mind killing them. (Further proof the Kitsune are dumb as hell and that Nakano is terrible at his job)
 
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Pretty much. Honestly, given the development time I think it's realistic to acknowledge things might change around that point.

Although I lied, there was also a sea adventure planned.
It'll come out 10 years from now, when the moders put it in.
 

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My main issue is that no-one is actively hostile or getting in each others way. This is an issue with every faction. With maybe the exception being the centaur's and mares as they often breed with one another. The kitsunes apparently have beef with the Tanuki's ,and while yes evergreen can send you on a quest to genocide the fuck out of those pretentious, racist bastards thats the only time factions actively interact with one another in a way that causes real conflict beyond story related quest.

This could be a whole interesting aspect of the story. If you're working with the Kitsune's Evergreen could refuse to help increase your pregnancy speed or prevent you from buying stuff from her daughters. You could work with Carmen and Keros to destroy Evergreen, as both the cumpire and fox sluts survive through sex. How you work with faction could effect Hawthorne and lead to you gaining unique abilities and making each play-through something special. But nope everyone leaves with in miles of each other have a rivalry with one another and never do anything about it. There cool with you interacting with there supposed enemies. When you could be a possible spy and sharing information with people who don't mind killing them. (Further proof the Kitsune are dumb as hell and that Nakano is terrible at his job)
That would require a team of people working together to create a complex, intricate RPG world with equally deep characters and interactions. What they have is a rag-tag group of writers(?) each working on their own stuff based on a barebones D&D ripoff of a world as a base, and never interacting with each other.
 

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That would require a team of people working together to create a complex, intricate RPG world with equally deep characters and interactions. What they have is a rag-tag group of writers(?) each working on their own stuff based on a barebones D&D ripoff of a world as a base, and never interacting with each other.
You're not wrong. But, fuck this is painful to watch. Savin literally plays D&D, and it's known. How can the people who support him tolerate this? Also I've never seen Savin play D&D, but his quest or who ever is dungeon master when he plays must be ass.
 
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You're not wrong. But, fuck this is painful to watch. Savin literally plays D&D, and it's known. How can the people who support him tolerate this? Also I've never seen Savin play D&D, but his quest or who ever is dungeon master when he plays must be ass.
I would be willing to bet Savin is the DM. And his players take his baby and run roughshod over it just like how his writers do the game while he goes "No, don't, stop" while fapping under the table. Also Savin is a ass so...
 
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Excerpt from The Observer's novella Daughter's Desire

Okay, it looks like I gave everyone equal portions, so no one's going to fight over that. Make sure everyone returns their utensils and scrapes their bowls properly, and don't stack the dirty dishes too high. Tatsumi hates boiled eggs, so make sure he cleans his plate and doesn't try to sneak them off to anyone else. Don't let the pot burn. Is everyone displaying good table manners? Don't think there's going to be any trouble, but —

It was then that she realised the pair of hands in front of her weren't at waist level, and neither were they held out. Instead, they were up about her chest, and folded; as her mind responded to the change in circumstances, Kinu's smile gradually faded as her eyes met her mother's.

Kiyoko Ōtomo, den mother of the Ōtomo clan, wife-consort to the Champion of Keros.

"Hey, Mom." Kinu's gaze travelled from her mother's placid expression to each of the fluffy and glorious nine tails flicking in her wake, then to the noticeable bulge of her midriff, not quite hidden under her yukata. Her mother always wore that damned summer kimono, never mind that it was out of season. "It's getting cold outside, so we're having oden tonight. Want some?"

Oh, great. Dad's gone and gotten Mom knocked up again. Or maybe it's the other way around and Mom demanded Dad knock her up. Who cares? There's going to be another mouth to feed… and I'm the one who has to do the cooking.

"'Hey, Mom'. I thought I taught you better than to just spit the words out as they came into your head, young woman."

Kinu gritted her teeth, and hoped her mother wouldn't notice the set of her jaw. "Welcome home; you must be tired from travel. Would you like some dinner, Mother? May I ask why Father isn't with you?"

A palpable tension in the air, magnified manifold by masses of fox-children awkwardly pretending nothing was wrong.

"I'll decline the offer of dinner, I've just fed. Although I must ask — I smell beef in the soup stock. Where did you get that?"

Should I try to lie? No, that's futile; if she's asking, she already knows, or at least has a confident guess. Besides, I'm not going to run away from what I've done.

"I went into town and purchased some from the market there."

Kiyoko Ōtomo had never been a woman of great emotional displays in front of her many kits, ever tranquil and elegant. On this occasion, though, a corner of her lips thinned and curled downwards, and her brows furrowed ever so slightly.

"We'll speak outside."

That voice — it brooked no discussion. Kinu turned her gaze back and forth, perhaps hoping for a miracle to save her from this predilection, but when none came she snuffed out the kitchen fires with a snap of her fingers and followed her mother out. The stares of her numerous brothers and sisters wore heavily on the back of her neck as she trailed her mother's nine flowing tails out of the dining hall, an ominous portent of well, at least a thorough scolding.

Kiyoko whirled and shut the door behind her. "So, you went into the village your father calls Hawkethorne."

"I did, with an adequate disguise. I spoke with some of the people, they were friendly to even a stranger like me. Father's doing good work there. I got a few things we couldn't have acquired otherwise, without having to beg Grandmother Komari to travel to the old country for them."

"A disguise, you say. And what about the journey?"

"I had my naginata to keep me safe, Mother."

"And did you disguise your naginata as well?"

Silence. Then, quick as a whip, Kiyoko lashed out and slapped her firstborn daughter, hard enough to smack her face to the side and leave red finger-marks on her cheek. Head reeling, knees buckling, Kinu instinctively clutched her face as her ears folded against her head, stinging tears springing to her eyes.
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Silence. Then, quick as a whip, Kiyoko lashed out and slapped her firstborn daughter, hard enough to smack her face to the side and leave red finger-marks on her cheek. Head reeling, knees buckling, Kinu instinctively clutched her face as her ears folded against her head, stinging tears springing to her eyes.
Goddamn, did I never hear about this. This one excerpt clearly doesn't feel like a family dynamic, but something that is very blatantly setting up an arc of rebellion and corruption (even if miniscule corruption). If not, blatant developments of familial abuse and hypocrisy. Definitely familiar with that fucked up topic, even though I never wanted to see it in a text-based smut series to such depressing degrees.
More and more I move away from the Kitsune, I'm glad.
 

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I honestly wouldn't mind exploring abuse or neglect with Kinu and Kiyoko. (Edit: It's something that is kinda set up. Kiyoko does come across as no sense when Kinu is first born and does immediately start demanding you get certain things for her education. Which in my first play-through I didn't think much of as I knew time worked differently in that world. I just wanted to try and spend as much time with Kinu as possible and give her the best advice when I could. It's fun to shit on Tobs writing, but I was invested in Kinu and Kiyoko, at first. So, your family slowly distancing itself wasn't to much of a stretch for me. It just the fact you can't do anything that continues to piss me off.) Even though Tobs tries to make his precious kitsune's come across as perfect and elegant they're not. I don't mind there being this political aspect and passive aggressiveness as long as I the player can do something about it, to either improve or worsen the situation.

Now I do think the Observers story clashes with the overall tone of this games as it often tries to be comedic, or lighthearted. (Not saying you can't have dark moments in a series Rick and Morty and Justice League Unlimited has some pretty dark moments) But this is where Savin as project lead would come in and try manage the teams content so it doesn't come across schizophrenic. This is a perfect example of the right hand not knowing what the left is doing. All this does is further prove that this game is a compliation of different stories. Everyone drags each other down and unintentionally or in the case of the Brint/Brienne rape scene intentionally. And it just worsens the project as a whole.
 
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Excerpt from The Observer's novella Daughter's Desire

Okay, it looks like I gave everyone equal portions, so no one's going to fight over that. Make sure everyone returns their utensils and scrapes their bowls properly, and don't stack the dirty dishes too high. Tatsumi hates boiled eggs, so make sure he cleans his plate and doesn't try to sneak them off to anyone else. Don't let the pot burn. Is everyone displaying good table manners? Don't think there's going to be any trouble, but —

It was then that she realised the pair of hands in front of her weren't at waist level, and neither were they held out. Instead, they were up about her chest, and folded; as her mind responded to the change in circumstances, Kinu's smile gradually faded as her eyes met her mother's.

Kiyoko Ōtomo, den mother of the Ōtomo clan, wife-consort to the Champion of Keros.

"Hey, Mom." Kinu's gaze travelled from her mother's placid expression to each of the fluffy and glorious nine tails flicking in her wake, then to the noticeable bulge of her midriff, not quite hidden under her yukata. Her mother always wore that damned summer kimono, never mind that it was out of season. "It's getting cold outside, so we're having oden tonight. Want some?"

Oh, great. Dad's gone and gotten Mom knocked up again. Or maybe it's the other way around and Mom demanded Dad knock her up. Who cares? There's going to be another mouth to feed… and I'm the one who has to do the cooking.

"'Hey, Mom'. I thought I taught you better than to just spit the words out as they came into your head, young woman."

Kinu gritted her teeth, and hoped her mother wouldn't notice the set of her jaw. "Welcome home; you must be tired from travel. Would you like some dinner, Mother? May I ask why Father isn't with you?"

A palpable tension in the air, magnified manifold by masses of fox-children awkwardly pretending nothing was wrong.

"I'll decline the offer of dinner, I've just fed. Although I must ask — I smell beef in the soup stock. Where did you get that?"

Should I try to lie? No, that's futile; if she's asking, she already knows, or at least has a confident guess. Besides, I'm not going to run away from what I've done.

"I went into town and purchased some from the market there."

Kiyoko Ōtomo had never been a woman of great emotional displays in front of her many kits, ever tranquil and elegant. On this occasion, though, a corner of her lips thinned and curled downwards, and her brows furrowed ever so slightly.

"We'll speak outside."

That voice — it brooked no discussion. Kinu turned her gaze back and forth, perhaps hoping for a miracle to save her from this predilection, but when none came she snuffed out the kitchen fires with a snap of her fingers and followed her mother out. The stares of her numerous brothers and sisters wore heavily on the back of her neck as she trailed her mother's nine flowing tails out of the dining hall, an ominous portent of well, at least a thorough scolding.

Kiyoko whirled and shut the door behind her. "So, you went into the village your father calls Hawkethorne."

"I did, with an adequate disguise. I spoke with some of the people, they were friendly to even a stranger like me. Father's doing good work there. I got a few things we couldn't have acquired otherwise, without having to beg Grandmother Komari to travel to the old country for them."

"A disguise, you say. And what about the journey?"

"I had my naginata to keep me safe, Mother."

"And did you disguise your naginata as well?"

Silence. Then, quick as a whip, Kiyoko lashed out and slapped her firstborn daughter, hard enough to smack her face to the side and leave red finger-marks on her cheek. Head reeling, knees buckling, Kinu instinctively clutched her face as her ears folded against her head, stinging tears springing to her eyes.
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Congratulations, Tobs! You've managed to sink even lower than I thought! Would it kill Tobs for once to, I don't know, actually write something that actually fits in the goddamn world and setting he's writing for? Seriously, this excerpt makes it seem like CoC2 is this soap opera that only happens in Kitsune Land of the Rising Sun and that everything else doesn't even exist.

Bad enough that anything he touches just needs to have his muh edge and pretention to the point of breaking canon and character, but his own bloody content doesn't even feel like it's even part of the world of CoC2 outside of the rivalry with Evergreen because of course the kitsune hate the tanuki. Gee, it can't possibly be because it's one of the most basic of Japanese folklore tropes and he can't even Japan right.
 

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Excerpt from The Observer's novella Daughter's Desire
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So Kiyoko is abusive, there are very little signs pointing to that in-game, and the Champ can do literally nothing about it. Perfect game design, I see nothing wrong with that.

For real though, I don't understand anything about what's going on though. Kiyoko makes food for the Champ every time they visit her but not her own children? None of your children speak to you about the abuse going on, even in passing? Kinu is just fine with this happening despite her being able to run away to the Champ anytime this kind of shit happens? TOBS knows it's okay to get help with abuse, right? This can still be a story about a woman becoming her own person even if she gets just a little help from her father. Suffering on your own ISN'T a good thing, TOBS.

I don't know why he's obsessed with making every Kitsune a broken piece of shit while also putting them on pedestal. Does he think that makes them deep or something? Because it doesn't.
 
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Goddamn, did I never hear about this. This one excerpt clearly doesn't feel like a family dynamic, but something that is very blatantly setting up an arc of rebellion and corruption (even if miniscule corruption). If not, blatant developments of familial abuse and hypocrisy. Definitely familiar with that fucked up topic, even though I never wanted to see it in a text-based smut series to such depressing degrees.
More and more I move away from the Kitsune, I'm glad.
To be completely fair, I cut it there partly for max shit post value, it continues with Kiyoko being upset that she could have been killed from someone seeing her weapon and putting two and two together, and it's also farmer kinu and not princess kinu, with farmer kinu rarely but occasionally doing stuff of her own like the "disciplining" her sister scene in her orb stage, but i dunno that really doesn't come across as tough love, at all, especially the way kiyokos described, and with kinu having to do absolutely everything then her mother insulting her for saying "hey mom". It also mentions later that kiyoko doesn't care about who kinu liked, she'd force them apart, which makes kinu bang hitoshi to get pregnant and force a marriage.

Also shows hitoshi killing one of the masked assassins with a farming tool to protect her, getting a large wound then hauling it back to a party the den was having and dumping it on the ground to show them. Nakano just friggin sucks, kiyoko has a garbage judge of character. Even tobs seems to have a bias towards farmer kinu, and it fits his whole thing he's wanting to do of her being a strong indepandent wahmen instead of needing help from her family. Combining the story and the main game, hitoshis a farmer willing to fight to protect her and likes her, shares her interests and lifestyle, while nakano is a good for nothing glorious anime death seeker whose only action so far fighting the assassins has been to clean hitoshis wound.

I really, really don't get why from any storytelling perspective at all that nakano, a glory seeking samurai wannabe eager to die in a blaze of glory etc hasn't got involved with princess kinus stuff at all. For gods sake have him sneak after her to the ways between, have a heart to heart when he's ready to die to ensure she escapes but she says she loves him and they escape together, he realizes he has something to live for, something. He's such a complete waste. The farmers more ba and a husband than you bro, just go ahead and commit sudoku in minecraft
 
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