Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.33] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Tau_Iota]

Nah, you'll be able to marry Brint. Just Brint, though.

If you have Brint, you can't marry the other two.

You'd still have to share him, I'd imagine. Also, "If you have Brint, you can't marry the other two."

Counterpoint, if Brienne didn't exist there would be much less interest in Brint so he would still have less content. Theoretically anyways, but it's as possible as the other.

There's always been love for Brint, so I doubt the lack of Brienne would detract interest from Brint. Also, he's Wsan's companion so he wouldn't be abandoned like Agni

 

[MoneyMan181]

Honestly never understood the whole, "Brienne takes content away from Brint" angle. Like sure I guess you could argue that but it's weird to blame the character rather than the writer for that, no? If Wsan would rather work on things other than Brint, I'm sure he would find other ways to do it if he didn't think of Brienne. Idk I just don't like saying, "this character takes content away from this other character." because it just seems needlessly divisive.

I'm also curious to see if Brienne actually has more content than Brint besides just busts. It seems like Brint has more repeatable scenes while Brienne has the whole family thing and a few one-off events so it should mostly even out, right?

 

[muschi26]

Honestly never understood the whole, "Brienne takes content away from Brint" angle. Like sure I guess you could argue that but it's weird to blame the character rather than the writer for that, no? If Wsan would rather work on things other than Brint, I'm sure he would find other ways to do it if he didn't think of Brienne. Idk I just don't like saying, "this character takes content away from this other character." because it just seems needlessly divisive.

I'm also curious to see if Brienne actually has more content than Brint besides just busts. It seems like Brint has more repeatable scenes while Brienne has the whole family thing and a few one-off events so it should mostly even out, right?

IDK it’s not really “blaming” IMO, it’s just the reality of having one writer who now needs to divide his finite time between two characters, where hypothetically there could’ve been just one.

 

[Tau_Iota]

Honestly never understood the whole, "Brienne takes content away from Brint" angle. Like sure I guess you could argue that but it's weird to blame the character rather than the writer for that, no? If Wsan would rather work on things other than Brint, I'm sure he would find other ways to do it if he didn't think of Brienne. Idk I just don't like saying, "this character takes content away from this other character." because it just seems needlessly divisive.

Fair point, but I'm not blaming the character. I'm blaming Wsan for deciding to bring her into existence. I don't dislike her, she's enjoyable but I'd rather more content for Brint. People who want a waifu to impregnate can go get abused by Kiyoko (Kidding, of course.)

Like muschi said, it's dividing the work he's doing which always seems to slant in Brienne's favor. In an ideal world of course, there would have been a good writer to work on Brint or Brienne instead of Wsan doing both

I'm also curious to see if Brienne actually has more content than Brint besides just busts. It seems like Brint has more repeatable scenes while Brienne has the whole family thing and a few one-off events so it should mostly even out, right?

Another fair point, if only we had an up-to-date wiki we could check instead of editing being heavily restricted to people who can't be bothered to update it. If I remember correctly, Brienne has the same or more.

 

[Kroenen12]

On family content, sure he wouldn't care. But there's no content equivalency to marrying the whole family now is there?

If I recall correctly, you will never be able to marry Brint.

Pointing out that Moira was quick to put out Brienne's busts and very slow to update Brint's just exemplifies my point. If Brienne did not exist, there'd be no reason for Moira to have not finished Brint's. This is what everyone keeps talking about when they say Brienne is taking away from Brint.

I mean it's true that brienne is popular and gets art/busts before brint, but that doesn't mean that Brint won't get any content/art
so "Brienne is taking away from Brint." is...
exaggerated?

 

[muschi26]

I mean it's true that brienne is popular and gets art/busts before brint, but that doesn't mean that Brint won't get any content/art
so "Brienne is taking away from Brint." is...
exaggerated?

People assume that, if Brienne didn’t exist, all of the time Wsan presently spends on her would go to Brint 100% (effectively doubling his content or more), which might not be what actually would transpire (more likely he would distribute his extra time among all his other characters), but nonetheless Brint would likely get more content than he does currently.

 

[Tau_Iota]

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You'd still have to share him, I'd imagine. Also, "If you have Brint, you can't marry the other two."

I mean it's true that brienne is popular and gets art/busts before brint, but that doesn't mean that Brint won't get any content/art
so "Brienne is taking away from Brint." is...
exaggerated?

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If you don't get the point of why someone would look at Brint's still not being finished and being frustrated, I don't know what to say. If Brienne gets content and art left and right while Brint (being the original character) is drip fed content, someone who enjoyed the minobro would be understandably upset. Especially since aside from the gym, his last content update was Elthara's reaction to him becoming Brienne while pregnant with his child. Aside from that, the last thing he got was a single doggy scene.

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[Kroenen12]

I'm also curious to see if Brienne actually has more content than Brint besides just busts. It seems like Brint has more repeatable scenes while Brienne has the whole family thing and a few one-off events so it should mostly even out, right?

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If you don't get the point of why someone would look at Brint's still not being finished and being frustrated, I don't know what to say. If Brienne gets content and art left and right while Brint (being the original character) is drip fed content, someone who enjoyed the minobro would be understandably upset. Especially since aside from the gym, his last content update was Elthara's reaction to him becoming Brienne while pregnant with his child. Aside from that, the last thing he got was a single doggy scene.

5.10 Patch Notes:
-Brienne have updated Quin-centric talks.
0.5.8 Patch Notes:
-Brint and Brienne got a gym expansion: you can work out with them, or “work out” with them. If they haven’t cleared the gym’s field yet, remember that they will after it’s been 3 days since you first visited it and you wake up in Hawkethorne. (by Wsan)
0.5.0 Patch Notes, Part 2: Narrative Changes
-Brint has an all-new set (also applies to Brienne) he starts with right off.
-If you turn Brint into Brienne while Elthara is pregnant with Brint’s child, there’s a new scene between them.
0.4.40 Patch Notes:
-New scenes: Kasyrra Suck & Fuck — accessible from her Dream Palace sex menu; Brint kneeling doggy-style (by Wsan); Livrea Pussy 69 (by Skow)
0.4.37 Patch Notes:
-You can turn Brienne’s cowprint bikini on or off in her adornments menu.
0.4.33 Patch Notes:
-Brienne’s stargazing CG has been updated to include her cowprint bra!
0.4.27 Patch Notes:
-New busts: KM whores, Aileh, Fem!Keros, Brienne 2.0, Pregnant Rindo + Post-Baby, Agnimitra, Atugia 2.0
0.4.21 Patch Notes:
-Atugia and Brienne have new interactions, including dual sleepwiths! (Written by Gardeford)
0.4.18 Patch Notes:
-New edge-case interactions for if Brint knocked up Elthara but has since become a woman.
0.4.17 Patch Notes:
-You can now train with Rina, Brint/enne’s sister, and take her out on a date! Gotta do training 4 times before you can flirt with her. There is a tremendous amount of variation in these scenes, so they’re going to come out a bit slowly.
-Two of those variations have a new CG if you also have Brienne!
0.4.15 Patch Notes:
-You can now enter Brint/enne’s house in the Khor’minoan Outskirts! This is the first of several planned updates with Brint’s family — for now, it’s just intros, talking, and some quickies with Brint/enne. (By Wsan, obviously)
-Corrupted Nihara and Brint’s family all have busts now, by Moira. Lyric also has a combat bust now!
0.3.46 Patch Notes:
-After taking the Wayfort (for Etheryn or for yourself) and having fucked Elthara (and also reaching Level 6), Elthara will start coming down to spend 3 days out of every 2 weeks at your fort. While she’s there, you’ll have the opportunity to breed this priestess of fertility~ (Brint Threesome)
etc..........
Brint/brienne content
-Cait
-Elthara pregnancy
-Vatia Threesome
-Atugia Threesome
-Gym content
-Arena set
-Marriage (planned)
-Demon Brint/Brienne (planned)
-?
Only brint
-Winter Knight Set
-Brint date
-Elthara Threesome
-Garret Threesome
-BrintFuckHer - Let loose your minotaur [stud/friend] on Arona while you watch. (requires Brint)
-Spitroast - This goblin's thick enough that you could probably share her with someone else. Hope you have a friend in mind... (requires a cock and has Arona or Brint)
-Arona Threesome ("Coming later!")
-?
Only brienne
-Pyromancer Cloth set
-Family Matters quest
-Azzy Threesome
-Rina Threesome
-Triple marriage (Planned)
-?

 

[LandBeach]

Stylist characters were added months ago. All that was just added was a bust I'm pretty sure. And they weren't added to the kitsune den.

And that cloned content was what I was talking about though I meant to type from the two sisters, not between.




The answer to all those is probably "more than the futas by a good bit".

How many plot relevant futa characters are there? Kas, Etheryn and...is that it?

And if we want to count front page splashes, lets go over the front page stuff for this whole year.

Futa and female
Female
Female and Male
Female
Futa
Female
Female
Futa
Female
Female
Male
Female
Futa
Female
Futa
Female
Female
Female
Female
Futa
Female

So 15 posts with a female on them and...6 posts with a futa on them.

...pretty much the same ratio as everything else.




This...doesn't matter. This is a fetish game. How much stuff occurs in nature is kinda irrelevant here.



But the opinion you are representing here has a LOT of fact to cover. You are saying that a 3rd of the characters get more attention than a number of characters over triple their size. In literally every easily measurable metric, the exact opposite is true.




Regardless of how much content any of them are getting relative to before, they still get more content by far than...well, the futa companion (Arona).

And "pivotal to the story" isn't really the issue, here, content is. And after Winter City, she has gotten CaitQuest, the whole brothel, a new transformation, a steady drop of scenes, etc.




I pretty much agree with this...but it kinda just bolsters my point.




So...all the meaningful content is had by the female character, all the attention is on the female character, all of the non-story development surrounds the female character - and the futas get a few sex scenes.

Also, if we're talking about context - the marefolk village basically also comes with the centaur village, the quest finishes both. The place where you get to marry ANOTHER female character, and get another character that actually becomes a camp companion - both of course, female.




Whether or not she is reviled is, again, irrelevant. The issue posed by you is, well...



and Kiyoko definitely fills those roles.



Splash images aren't content. There have been many dry spells with little to no futa content, though tbh I'd have to check if an actual calendar month corresponded.




Even on here, as someone just commented, there's an awful lot of futa characters on top polls.

And, quite frankly, the poll results here, would be...meaningless. You talked about what they should be putting in their game, and I would think that pretty much anyone would agree that a business should be catering to its paying customers and not pirates, no? Add to that the fact that that poll sat around 2500+ people and here probably doesn't hit 100 users, and I feel its pretty clear which one someone would give more weight to logically.





It also has more cow people than than there are in the world.
Relating Savarra's demographics to the real world does not seem like a useful metric in any way.



We most certainly can't. there are over 7000 games on this site; less than 1000 of them have the futa tag at all. The vast majority of those have a single scene or side character at best, and the vast majority of what's left is, to put it nicely, well below par.

The one time I'm on Skan's side.

 

[MoneyMan181]

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It's okay, you can join all 3 of us Atugia fans crying in the corner about not getting any content.

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[muschi26]

I’d consider Evergreen, Jael’yn, and Arona to be plot-relevant too; even if they’re not as important as Kasyrra and Etheryn, you do have to interact with them to get through the main story. There are also several more quest-related ones.

 

[confusedcommoner]

On family content, sure he wouldn't care. But there's no content equivalency to marrying the whole family now is there?
If I recall correctly, you will never be able to marry Brint. Brienne will also consistently stop to talk to you while you're out-and-about, kind of like how Dom Arona will. Brint doesn't see[m to have] any of that to my knowledge.
Pointing out that Moira was quick to put out Brienne's busts and very slow to update Brint's just exemplifies my point. If Brienne did not exist, there'd be no reason for Moira to have not finished Brint's. This is what everyone keeps talking about when they say Brienne is taking away from Brint.

If Brienne gets content and art left and right while Brint (being the original character) is drip fed content, someone who enjoyed the minobro would be understandably upset. Especially since aside from the gym, his last content update was Elthara's reaction to him becoming Brienne while pregnant with his child. Aside from that, the last thing he got was a single doggy scene.

I don't get your bust argument, it has nothing to do with the content either character will receive. Moira just seems to prefer drawing women unless there's a new male character that needs a bust. If you check Moira's Patreon polls off twitter,

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. Number of Brienne busts doesn't mean anything either, they're just slight variants e.g. cowbell or not, so Brienne's bust variants will obviously get rushed out quicker when Brint already has a good bust with no variants to add.

As for the content argument, they do affect eachother's content e.g. read Brienne and Brint's gym scenes back-to-back as a strong PC, they basically just swap between the role the PC takes on, and have very similar text. But I disagree that all, or even most, work that's done on Brienne would've gone to Brint, and both of them are "drip fed content" because Wsan is writing many characters and the devs don't collaborate much. Either way we go it becomes conjecture, but I think it's more likely that most of the work would've just gone to not-Brienne, a non-companion female character. I think it would be fair to say they delay eachother's content in theory though, as he has to write Brienne's family variants and such before doing Brint's unique KM content, which is something about getting him a harem or not, and something different than Brienne's armor dilemma I believe? Both will receive marriage content, but Brint won't have a triple wedding, probably both to save Wsan from even more variables and because Brint isn't interested in the family stuff.

Brienne and Brint share a lot of companion commentary, but they're fundamentally different characters so their unique interactions and content show up in different places. Brint has a lot of interjections if the PC bangs minotaurs in KM, or stuff like Cat Harem, and Vatia when she's sleeping, but Brienne has nothing during these because she's PCsexual or harem building. I'd say the two are pretty comparable in terms of content on average, but for now Brienne will overtake Brint because of the family interactions coming before his harem stuff or whatever Wsan will give him in KM.

Ideally the writers would collaborate so content remains relatively balanced and cohesive, but everyone works in a bubble and their prose and takes are wildly different. Unfortunately we also can't clone Wsan yet to appease both crowds simultaneously.

It's okay, you can join all 3 of us Atugia fans crying in the corner about not getting any content.

One day the Atugia fans will be free of this curse... One day... Maybe not, actually...

 

[Raf-Raf]

One day the Atugia fans will be free of this curse... One day... Maybe not, actually...

Give me a huge hit of that good stuff as a Brint fan.

 

[muschi26]

One day the Atugia fans will be free of this curse... One day... Maybe not, actually...

Oh you’ll get your scene one day… where she fucks Arona and you get to watch.

 

[Skandranon]

I’d consider Evergreen, Jael’yn, and Arona to be plot-relevant too; even if they’re not as important as Kasyrra and Etheryn, you do have to interact with them to get through the main story. There are also several more quest-related ones.

Eh, we have wildly different definitions of plot relevant I guess. Jael'yn is basically just a palace guard you beat down to get further into the palace. Gytha is just as important as Jael storywise, and they could both be renamed "generic palace guard #4653" without any noticeable impact.

But if you expand the definition of plot-relevant to anyone you have to encounter to get through the main story, you'd still hit way more female characters than futa, so it doesn't really impact anything.

 

[Wrynn13]

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I was going to say at least Brint/Brienne get some content even while Wsan works on other huge projects while other companions get ignored or outright deleted while their writers do "something" in the shadows we may or may not see eventuallyTM.

 

[Biostar]

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It really sucks that all the things I look forward to is stuck behind one guy.

 

[FurrBat]

It really sucks that all the things I look forward to is stuck behind one guy.
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Atleast your content writer is alive and you have things to look forward to. I like floofy sheep and frost pupper and their writers quit/got kicked out respectively so im out of luck.

Maybe I will make a NPC mausoleum for the deceased(no incoming content ever) characters :v. Gotta make sure im not getting my hopes up for an impossible dream.

Would be easier if wiki was up to date but its not fan controlled so we cant easily add/edit content here and im too much of a lazy fagget to check fenoxo's forum/discord about the writers whereabouts.

 

[undyingrevenant]

Atleast your content writer is alive and you have things to look forward to.

My fellow brother in christ, to use a certain quote, "sometimes dead is better". Distinct possibility if they came back online frost pupper could be chucked to the hell hound and floofy sheep could decide she likes having her wool fluffed at the temple.

 

[Thisguy2]

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Man we're never getting shit. Atugia's not a cock swallowing cat girl, a giant mommy milker minotaur or an absusive trad foxgirl wife (or any of the writers self insert ocs or favourties.)
What she is cute and underwritten and cute is not enough for those dipshit writers.