Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.35] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[MoneyMan181]

Oh, don't lie to me. They do give a shit about it.

They complain, after all.

Being annoyed that another random character gets added doesn't mean they care about the character itself. Simply the concept of it getting added instead of work being put into existing characters is what's annoying.

But you know what? Fine. They don't like it?

I don't care.

I'll write what I want to write. If I want to add content to existing, available characters, I will. If I want to write another NPC, I will. If I want to add cute romance, I will. If I want to add corruption, I will.

Nobody said you couldn't do that. You're not the one in charge of the game, a lead writer, or write for a companion, so I don't really care what you do with your time writing. I'm not holding community writers to any standard that the main team isn't.

If you want content you'll like, open a google doc and write it. That's what all the community writers wpended up doing. What I ended up doing.

For what? To listen to a bunch of rules, deal with annoying parsers, give free labor to a dev team I don't really like, for a game that's let me down over and over, and even then it still might not make it in?

No thanks, I'll just keep writing my own shit and not be held down by all that. You do you though, man. Dunno why you think I have a problem with you or the shit you're doing in particular. I'm just explaining why people are not happy with the update/game.

 

[Walk Cycle]

If you want content you'll like, open a google doc and write it. That's what all the community writers wpended up doing. What I ended up doing.

I feel like anyone that suggests this should add the caveat that anything they write will become Savin's property, with no guarantee of having control of their own content afterwards.

 

[eyvgbhunijmwk]

idk how they or why they went backwards from coc 1, but they sure suck now

 

[Seeker Of Truth]

Can anyone please give a save for pre centaur village?

 

[dolosolo]

idk how they or why they went backwards from coc 1, but they sure suck now

flanderization of its drawing features like the futa domme + borking the rest/gaslighting from the community that only the first matters

 

[Sixty]

idk how they or why they went backwards from coc 1, but they sure suck now

The sneering attitude that Dreamer's in here sharing is the biggest piece of why. It's a game written by assholes and feels like it.

 

[Daddums]

WHAT?! What bullshit reason did they give to block this content?

Probably something to do with same sex pregnancies leading to some uncomfortable questions on why you can't knock up Etheryn.

 

[dolosolo]

I'm doing that right now

The sneering attitude that Dreamer's in here sharing is the biggest piece of why. It's a game written by assholes and feels like it.

weird to think the way to shift opinions is posting here instead of writing, wants to have his cake and eat it too

 

[kiba945]

Let me guess...she's got a penis.

 

[hiddencamotree]

It has to be said, however, that a number of these solo devs are doing so by working themselves ragged, which will inevitably end in burnout, and is the reason behind there being so many abandoned games on this site.

I’m not saying this in defence of Savin & co.; I just want to see the myth die, according to which a good programmer/developer is one who’s constantly overworked.

I'm personally more convinced most are just hobby projects and when they're not fun anymore to work on they get abandoned. Or they're students that are finished with their education that move on to a real job and don't have the spare time anymore to work on their games. It's not like you can make enough with them to make a decent living (with some exceptions).

 

[Runa Mirabelle]

I am now more concerned about whether there will be more content about Alissa or Olivia in the future. After training the ex demon queen to be obedient, I hope to let her do something more intimate, such as being a bitch maid who can actively perform oral-sex every morning.
As for Olivia, her bust and full-art is just too good to be true, and that's the main reason I want to keep seeing new content about her.

 

[cannon9009]

I'm personally more convinced most are just hobby projects and when they're not fun anymore to work on they get abandoned. Or they're students that are finished with their education that move on to a real job and don't have the spare time anymore to work on their games. It's not like you can make enough with them to make a decent living (with some exceptions).

If you see an abandoned project with the 3dcg tag... expect disappointment. With a hint of hilarity. And maybe some confusion.

 

[Dreamer44]

I feel like anyone that suggests this should add the caveat that anything they write will become Savin's property, with no guarantee of having control of their own content afterwards.

Oh yeah, if you write for the game, the content and characters characters will belong to the staff.

It's to avoid people submitting and later on leaving for a myriad of reasons, leaving tbeir work incomplete. You can't pick it up otherwise.

Happened a lpfew times in CoC1.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

It is a little. They're the ones adding superfluous characters.

It all goes back to the top though.

Suppose I write a branch to Kiyoko and Kinu where the PC gets the idea that getting them out of the orb through common means will screw things up and so they go on to find an alternative method thanks to... I dunno, Calise (wasn't she meant to be a way to improve Kasyrra or some shit) and as a result, you get Kiyoko's family without the time shift. Cue interactions with folks on the Tree, Wayfort and the starting village which then culminate in a picnic where the PC and Kiyoko eventually beat some random dipshit into oblivion.

Alas, I can't do that because Tobs would throw a shitfit and Savin enabled that. I'd have to go create new NPCs, which lands us at that problem you mentioned. Newer writers are stuck writing new characters or tiptoeing around the guidelines that the old writers have for that character.

Now it might hurt cohesion to just lift that hold in general but we would definitively have less new throwaway characters and you'd have more to do with those old folks.

I feel like anyone that suggests this should add the caveat that anything they write will become Savin's property, with no guarantee of having control of their own content afterwards.

Yeah. And if you sod off, either the work gets thrown to the lions or languishes in wait of someone willing to continue it... and go through all of the process they have to comply to submit bloody anything.

Probably something to do with same sex pregnancies leading to some uncomfortable questions on why you can't knock up Etheryn.

Now if only we could give her a pink egg and be done with that scheisse.

 

[Walk Cycle]

Happened a lpfew times in CoC1.

We don't need to go that far, some of us still remember Berwyn.

I wonder when they'll give out BubbleLord's NPC's to other writers though.

 

[procrastinator101]

Oh yeah, if you write for the game, the content and characters characters will belong to the staff.

It's to avoid people submitting and later on leaving for a myriad of reasons, leaving tbeir work incomplete. You can't pick it up otherwise.

Happened a lpfew times in CoC1.

Yeah, I do my own writing, but the very idea that Savin and co. would own anything that I write, and would have free reign over it, is enough to make sure that I'll never do it. I'd rather sell my shit to the devil.

 

[MarvintheBee]

We don't need to go that far, some of us still remember Berwyn.

I wonder when they'll give out BubbleLord's NPC's to other writers though.

They already did that. Anyone can write for bubblelord's charackters if they want.
There is already a writer wanting to take of most of his characters including Quintilius.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

The sneering attitude that Dreamer's in here sharing is the biggest piece of why. It's a game written by assholes and feels like it.

Pretty much the most succcinct way to put it. The people involved are frankly just not decent human beings. It's always a mask-off moment whenever they have a public feud on discord or whatever too. Always petty and spiteful. There's endless crashout tirades from half the staff screenshotted on this thread here and there..

A congregation of assholes. Can't really expect much, fantasy hard kink smut is pretty niche and attracts unsavory people.

 

[Walk Cycle]

They already did that. Anyone can write for bubblelord's charackters if they want.
There is already a writer wanting to take of most of his characters including Quintilius.

Not fast enough, I want all of it to receive the Berwyn treatment. Downgrade Quint to another follower instead of a companion. Or give him an option to be turned to a woman.

 

[MarvintheBee]

Not fast enough, I want all of it to receive the Berwyn treatment. Downgrade Quint to another follower instead of a companion. Or give him an option to be turned to a woman.

That probably won't be happening, Savin was against it. And he is the one of the last 2 male comapions.
I'm not particulary fond of quin myself, but thats due to his writing and not because he is a male. Maybe his net writer can improve on what's there.