Tsubuhaza
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I generally can't imagine AI-written porn to be any good so congrats on them for not bastardizing things with it.
Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.4] [Savin/Salamander Studios]
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But Kailani does not, which is what matters to pure dick wielders like myself.
Apparently the required anal for romance with Hana is a bug. Go figure.
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harem.king
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1. we don't play it anymore. But we played it in the past, so we can still comment.
2. we were suckered into it via bait and switch.
CoC2 billed itself as having stuff for everyone.
with content for straight men, gay men, straight women, gay women, trans chasers and futasexuals.
but then they crammed in more and more futa or vagina-less trans characters because the lead dev (savin) is literally trying to financially coerce the writers into only writing this kind of content.
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basically savin goes:
> lol writers, stop whining you are not getting paid.
> just write dickgirl content if you want money for your work.
_Metamorphosis_
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Reminds me of Nonesuch comment in the Fenoxo blog in May 1th
Personally I don't think Nonesuch is completely wrong, the ones honking their "clown" to futa stuff probrably do more consistent comissions and stuff, so they do give more money compared to straight or gay comissions.
The problem is that it ends up catering to just that one group, it essentially makes other groups check the games and other stuff because most of it is going to be futa, so I think it just gets stuck with 1 group only because they pay more so why bother with other comissions? (not to mention other groups not doing many comissions because there aren't really many things of their kink in the game so why would they bother if they don't know how well that content is written?)
EDIT: Recent-ish reply to the comment.
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harem.king
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I don't agree with nonesuch.
I am not sure this was ever true.
but even if it was, it certainly is not true in 2024.
LGBT stuff is everywhere nowadays and in massive amounts.
If we look specifically at games here on F95 (make sure you set ignored threads to show first):
total games: 17716 results
male protagonist: 11751 (66.33% of games allow playing as male)
female protagonist: 5492 (31% of games allow playing as female)
futa/trans protagonist: 475 (2.68% of games allow playing as futa MC)
futa/trans: 1595 (9% of games involve having sex with a futa/trans NPC)
of those 11751 with a male protagonist, 955 are gay. (8.13% of all male protagonist games)
if you take [male protagonist] games and exclude [gay], [futa/trans] NPC, and [netorare] you are left with 9154 results. which is already only 51.67% of the available content. A majority, yes. but hardly the 95% figure.
require it to actually feature vaginal sex and it drops down to 6103 results. which is 34.44% of the total.
if you do not exclude any tags. and only require that a game has only 2 tags [male protagonist] and [vaginal sex] and you are left with 7709 games (43.51%). but this could very well be a game of "you sit in the cuck shed while your wife has vaginal sex with chad or even a horse". Or a game like CoC2 which has all the tags.
Do LGBT or people who want to play as a male who is fucking futa/trans character have fewer options to pick from?
yes. there are fewer options.
But to say 95% of porn is for straight men is extreme hyperbole.
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_Metamorphosis_
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I think he means in general rather than just porn games, sites like Rule34, e621, things like that.
e621 for instance, Intersex has like 78k with both male and female, on the other hand both female and male have way more than 1000k, there is a disparity yes, but I don't doubt Intersex just doing way more comissions in fenoxo's game shit because it's more niche and the people involved lean way more to futa and intersex stuff.
harem.king
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I mean, he is explicitly talking about a porn game so it makes sense to compare it to other games.
even if he was talking about movies and doujins, then those are still absolutely chock full of LGBT in 2024.
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I get that futa characters are overrepresented due to the preferences of the people making this game and paying for commissions, and I'm ok with that. But is there any reason in particular for not giving more dickgirls a vagina too? It seems to me it would allow them to appeal to a broader audience (considering the vast majority of the population is straight) while still catering to people looking for futa content.
This is, after all, a game that is supposed to appeal to a broad audience. Futas with a vagina seem like an easy way to do exactly that, yet it feels like half of the latest updates are all about dickgirls with no vagina. Are there really so many people here who want that specific niche? Is it supposed to be for gay men who find vaginas icky? But then again those chars have breasts and are pretty feminine apart from their genitals, so they're probably meant for an even more niche audience. Seems like a lot of effort for characters that will only get appreciated by less than 1% of the population.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on people who enjoy dickgirls and don't want them to have a vagina, you do you (although I am curious about the number of people with this specific fetish, and whether dickgirls having a vagina really turns them off). I'm just wondering why they get such disproportionate focus in this game. And if the creators of this game wanted to appeal to this very specific niche why didn't they make a game that actually focuses on that? Imo niche games tend to be better at appealing to niche audiences. They could make a game focused on LGBT content and then straight people wouldn't complain they're not getting enough updates.
To reiterate, it just seems kind of weird to me to make a game that initially appealed to everyone but then start to disproportionately cater to such a small audience, rather than focusing on that niche from the start. Or if they actually want to appeal to a broader audience why not give more dickgirls a vagina too? I'm just confused about the direction in which they want to take this game.
This is, after all, a game that is supposed to appeal to a broad audience. Futas with a vagina seem like an easy way to do exactly that, yet it feels like half of the latest updates are all about dickgirls with no vagina. Are there really so many people here who want that specific niche? Is it supposed to be for gay men who find vaginas icky? But then again those chars have breasts and are pretty feminine apart from their genitals, so they're probably meant for an even more niche audience. Seems like a lot of effort for characters that will only get appreciated by less than 1% of the population.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on people who enjoy dickgirls and don't want them to have a vagina, you do you (although I am curious about the number of people with this specific fetish, and whether dickgirls having a vagina really turns them off). I'm just wondering why they get such disproportionate focus in this game. And if the creators of this game wanted to appeal to this very specific niche why didn't they make a game that actually focuses on that? Imo niche games tend to be better at appealing to niche audiences. They could make a game focused on LGBT content and then straight people wouldn't complain they're not getting enough updates.
To reiterate, it just seems kind of weird to me to make a game that initially appealed to everyone but then start to disproportionately cater to such a small audience, rather than focusing on that niche from the start. Or if they actually want to appeal to a broader audience why not give more dickgirls a vagina too? I'm just confused about the direction in which they want to take this game.
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I can only speak for myself, but, as a straight man, I am not having any of my characters stick his dick in something else that also has (or once had) a dick, even if it has breasts or a vagina. Making more futanari as opposed to “shemales” would not broaden their appeal to me.
Edit: spelling.
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Unobtainium
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She has more than 3 named, though two named on the wiki I can't remember to save my life.
Never get to see their dad though...
_Metamorphosis_
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I mean it's still the same thing at the end, it's like fucking a femboy yes they look girly but they are still dudes, giving a Vagina to dickgirls just makes them into Herms.
Hell this is even noted with one futa in TITS, Verusha, when she gets really comfortable and open with you she outright asks you to ignore her dick because she wanted to be treated like a woman again for once instead of a Herm (And she really likes dicking people due to trauma of her being abused since it's one of the ways she feels like she can control her life after her abuse iirc) and it's the first time you can dick her instead of being the one getting dicked, it's treated like a huge which because it is.
I do agree with what you are saying though, I do not like futas or that sort of thing but it does open some space for people who are not really into that still have the opportunity to try out some of their own kinks, and yeah it claims it's for everyone and broad audiences yet it feels like they are focusing more on the niche ones because it's the creator's own kink, again that would be more than fine if it wasn't for the fact they said it was for "broad audiences" lol.
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Its just Savin's fetish I guess, almost every character that missed the memo on that the wo in woman is for womb is his. I haven't really kept track but its just Syri, Kaeda, Elf chick who I can never the name of, and now Hana right that qualifies for this specific fetish right? I can't think of any others that lack the vag.
Maybe he's just really into pre-op trans porn that's the only explanation I got but more power to him I guess.
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Basically what I said in Tits thread before getting some people angry at me :
they are already making variation of dickgirl character with 3 different flavors of dicks (with different art etc), why not just add 1 version with vagina so everyone can be happy ??
These are games about body transformation and stuff like that so why not allow everyone to get why they want, it wont be that much more work and it will feel much better for the average player.
But then I remember that people got angry that some console games got PC port, as if losing exclusivity to something made them less enjoyable and it is probably what is at play here :
People whose whole personality revolves around "the thing" (be it brand, console, sexuality, religion, music group, video game pretty much anything someone could gatekeep etc) and thus they need to restrict access to keep "the thing" "pure and unsullied" so they feel like "the thing" is important (how they justify it in their mind, what they truly seek is a form of artificial scarcity to increase their perceived value of "the thing").
In our case "the thing" is simply characters that are liked by players or interesting and should be made "exclusive" to some sexuality for some reason. (even though once again many characters could swap their genitals back and forth at a whim and it wouldnt take much work to have the arts done either)
anyways as I said on the other thread they are putting commissions before making a game (for players) which is why I don't think either game will ever see an end because they stopped being games the moment commissions got priority over the game as a whole. Now it's just circlejerk and we can just sit and watch in hopes someone commissions something that might have SOME content of interest to us (whoever us is, if you are into futa then you wont have to wait much, if you like M2M you might wait much more and if you like strong female without dick well in tits you are out of luck, in CoC2 surprisingly you have a few)
For instance I never felt issues with another game I enjoy (portals of Phereon) because 99% of characters can have the sex you want, just give them a potion and woop. What brought me to CoC/Tits was transformation fetish (which is very badly tagged in here, because M2F and for instance turning into a succubus/vampire/bimbo etc and very different set of fetishes but all tagged under transformation) and the gameplay which was actually kinda fun at times, some characters I liked a lot, others I couldn't give a F but having characters that you enjoy being locked into a certain sexual fetish and not being able to do anything about it (and having the devs literally mock you for not enjoying their fetish, im talking about TiT's Syri's and them throwing her vag at your face like "hey you wanted the vag, here it is, go fuck it yourself lol") is what makes people complain.
once again for the usual idiots that will undoutebly try to argue with me : I am not asking to remove futa or dickgirl content, I'm just asking to add 1 option for those who want non dick, but I know for those people asking for non dick is like having done a genocide or something like that (weirdly enough I noticed those people have their profile private for some reason xD)
Alright, a lot of that was wild but this is weird
...what? Like...two writers do commissions. I think Wsan has done 1 in the whole 6 years this game has been running. Commissions are a tiny part of this game.
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I almost completely disagree with nonesuch on a ridiculous metric such as 95% of porn being "heterosexual male focus". You look literally anywhere outside of regular porn shlock for 30 minutes and he's proven wrong. Christ I was looking for foot fetish stories on literotica and you wouldn't believe how many lesbian stories there were. That goes for literally every site where anybody can post porn. Nyl is one of the biggest animators and they exclusively make futa on female. There are literally fucking BILLIONS of posts of porn on the internet, you can find whatever you want in abundance if you search properly except for maybe the porn game market which is a lot of the same shit over and over again.
Also lmao at him saying there's any femdom(no, futadom doesn't count) in these games. I can count maybe a handful off the top of my head. Out of the hundreds of characters in these games, that's basically nothing.
I feel like you are forcing your argument with excluding NTR and non vaginal. Like it or not, straight men have cuckold and anal porn as some of their top categories. Also, what would be LGBT about a guy playing a female protag game where she gets fucked by a bunch of guys? That's still just a dude whacking it off to old fashioned woman on man coitus. I think there is way more content for straight men than your post implies. And even then, i'm pretty sure Nonesuch is more so factoring in conventional porn as well, not just porn games.
According to Tobs, that would be creepy. Abandonment is the healthy choice. But do make sure to come around to the den so you can trigger hearing about your children’s perils and then fuck off right after.
Azriel Satan
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Scat porn can also be straight but that doesn't mean most people like it.
Bestiality is technically straight but that sure as hell doesn't count.