Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.4] [Savin/Salamander Studios]
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As shit keeps getting unraveled, I'm getting more and more convinced that initial Orb Kiyoko content was either a fluke or a bait and switch.
A fluke because:
Literally none of his other content comes even close to the greatness that is Orb Kiyoko.
A bait and switch because:
Everything changes so suddenly when you let Kiyoko out of the orb. Now you're the bad guy and everyone hates you, especially your wife and daughter. Almost like TOBS planned it from the beginning.
I say Orb Kiyoko was just a super safe choice and the only warning signs was Orb Kiyoko gaslighting your daughter. Orb Kiyoko impregnation and pregnancy while being a cute/sexy fox lady that you get to milf-up into sexy fox lady, you could also effect Kiyoko by playing into a centralized theme of impregnation and pregnancy while changing them making them more milfy each time you did. Orb Kiyoko i think still is the only single character to have that much content in one area and the only thing I think is close is cow family and that's 3 characters that also need to take into account the options of Brint and Brianne.
I don't think any of TOBS other content come close in scope and safeness, and for content compared on just safeness of it they just end up being one-offs like I think all of the other foxes with unique scenes you can't repeat because it's a one-off. The design choice TOBS one-offs scenes is bewildering in a game with a structure like this and those one-off not being some sort of event that couldn't be repeated like dungeon scenes or some sort of circumstance like cat princess in tits.
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What would you want exactly? (actual question) Brint/Brienne is atrocious because it had no progression and character development, you didn't get to see Brint slowly digest being Brienne. Worst is that both characters are purposeless so there's no drama to mine, Brienne could've had something ongoing but because the leadership didn't plot out the main points of the story Wsan doesn't get to have a steady story progression. (tho i doubt he'd have written one, dude is obsessed with getting dicked by "girls")
Yup, gotta give him that.
How do you know he's Chinese?
I'm pretty sure you could get TOBS to do something at least near Orb Kiyoko if you gave them an assignment of some content safe and work towards their strengths and an editor to reign them in when they get weird. Only important questions for this is will it feel same-y and not written like cringe Japanese porn.
But CoC2 isn't that kind of project with that kind of management or forward planning.
But CoC2 isn't that kind of project with that kind of management or forward planning.
no power fantasy but its completely okay that writers use the medium to take power over players, the most basic dichotomy of fantasy.. not existing for the player.. savin needs his ass beat
While they was first, I thought was a design decision that Savin didn't want interactable kids because of something along the lines of "they don't want all writers to feel obligated to do the same" this has been also ignored be them with Arona. i think WSAN and 2 other writers wanted to do some but nothing as extensive Kinu and the ass pull that was the time skip and making you play them.To Tobs defense (ugh, that I would ever say those words),
Kiyoko and Kinu was the class leading example for all preg and child content to come out of this game.
First interactable kid with, different cute events, even choices to influence the future of the child.
My random -2 cents is that my characters are also shortstacks and I would love to at least see an acknowledgement on similar shared stature. I would love even if its just a couple sentences after a check.
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I'm convinced that kinu was his OC that he implemented into CoC2 rather than a character created for it, She got her own mini game going on over there which your also not allowed to interact with for any reason
No matter how many reason tobs makes up on the forums, not being to atleast offer any type of guidance as a parent is just dumb
"you don't need to help her with any training because her kiyoko has already trained and currently still training her" OK and?
No matter how many reason tobs makes up on the forums, not being to atleast offer any type of guidance as a parent is just dumb
"you don't need to help her with any training because her kiyoko has already trained and currently still training her" OK and?
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Because he himself said it several times, with other coc2 devteam members reaffirming it? And he sometimes speaks in mandarin. Tobs is Tobs, but he usually doesn't lie.
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Just asking doesn't do things justice. If you have a bit of time and some spare popcorn. Search him up in this thread and immerse yourself in the lore. Let yourself go down the eventual rabbit hole that is this game. I give you a fat boy guarantee that all this shit is pure comedy. There's enough entertaining content within these pages. To where you could consider this thread a whole separate spin-off text game.
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Call it "The Tragedy of Tobs: Avatar of Spite", lolz
Mhmm, interesting but whats with the Japanese hate tho? Its not like he was there or informed about their atrocities and the Chinese are the last ppl tht should be wagging their finger on egregious national activities, I just think he needs an editor that knows when to tell him to stop inserting his opinions
The Chinese still haven't forgiven the Japanese for what they did before and during WW2, the countries have a fairly high degree of distrust and hatred between the two. The other East-Asian countries are a bit more split, but there is still a very large amount of animus among the older populations. This is getting pretty off topic from the porn game though.
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And as we all know, Spite is a letter away from shite.
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Oh goody gumdrops, a question that is perfect for little ol' me. I like it in general but it does depends on the content. Sticking gooey buns in random ovens, just for the sake of it. Is kinda dull for me. Like don't get me wrong. I have no issue with breeding just because. Gwyneth is pretty much a womb on legs and I think her content is pretty hot. Whole dad thing was kinda weird though. Wish we could've stamped that out with the whole her wanting to be claimed thing, but alright. But as much as I like to spray the secret sauce. Random pregnancy with NPCs, to get generic child #333, ain't really appealing. I'm in a similar boat as Biostar. Give me a little bit more meaning to those little bundles of future abandonment.
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Kinda don't like that most of Kiyoko's content, including getting her as a follower, is locked behind her preg content.
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Yeah cause Lets be real; no-one not even in fiction can someone take care of 30+ kids with it devolving into cartoon nonsense, literally not possible. I don't mind being the "anime abandonment dad" but the narrative/writers aren't self-aware enough to allow for that.
Even with Kinu stepping up to act as effectively a 3rd parent to all her younger siblings, there'd still be cartoon nonsense with the amount of kids you have to make Kiyoko pop out to at minimum max out the tail count for her bust images. And that's just for the Kiyoko repeat preggings, where the kids stay with their mom (rather than imps that are born already ready to cause chaos and running off right away, Tanuki babies getting sent off to the Tanuki house where there's at least a bunch of older sisters who are already old enough to help care for more siblings, or Hornet babies that are the same deal as the Tanuki babies but with the Hornet Hive instead of the Tanuki House). Gwyn is an even bigger issue where there's no one to step up and fill in as an extra "parent", she's doing all the work solo, with potentially hundreds to even thousands of children needing taken care of.
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Personally Think there should be a hard limit on how many kids you can have or have the character canonically be a deadbeat to most side characters. The Nursery should've been Town upgrades instead of just Gwyn getting money because you end up paying like 50k for a music room, tht makes no sense, tht more than the entire towns income.