Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.4] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[WazaQQXOXO]

Anyone ever play Fall of Eden? All the recent discourse here got me thinking back on that game, and how it was probably a lot worse than I remember it. For instance I recall this futa guard who if you expressed any disrespect or dislike toward, she would bar you from entering a city unless you sucked her off. I may be misremembering, but there would be a fucking riot if something like that happened in CoC2, and with good reason.

Never paid any heed to FoE until you mentioned it, the railroading is real, I ain't touching that one ever again.

Why the Cait hate around here? Is it because she fucks around or because she's written by Savin?

The whole Mallach-temple shebang; advocating for child grooming; the lack of depth; being fine with a demonic-MC but throwing a hissy-fit when it comes to Farrah.

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[Mandoto]

It wasn't obvious to me, sorry. Sure, that's a bad attitude for a writer, but also you could also like not insult her right?

No problem, like I said I should've elaborated more. So I just looked it up, and I was misremembering, this is a description of her first encounter;

Initially, she will politely but firmly rebuff the player from entering without a pass. She will direct them to the slums outside of the city's walls, in particular the slum tavern known as the Maiden's Bane, and extend them a friendly invitation to join her and have a drink some time.

If the player does so, randomly approaching her may trigger a scene in which a pair of cat-morphs engage in sex, visibly arousing the Doberman-morph; players are presented with the option to Comfort Her or Check. Comforting her causes her to make an excuse and leave, adding positive points to her Relationship meter and deducting points from her Dominance meter, resulting in both a better relationship with her and in making her less dominant in the bedroom.

Checking under the table will reveal Miranda is masturbating herself, which reveals her as a hermaphrodite to the player. The player may then choose to Flee (double-dose of negative points to her Relationship meter), Watch (gives positive points to her Relationship and Dominance meters), or Help Her (double-dose of positive points to her Relationship and Dominance meters).

Upon approaching Miranda in the bar a second time, a one-time scene is triggered based on the player's actions the first time.

If they chose to Comfort her, approaching Miranda leads to a scene where she explains that she is a hermaphrodite. This presents the option to Leave (results in an offended Miranda, meaning "Nasty Mode" is engaged), Accept Her (double-dose of positive points in Relationship meter), or Touch It (triggers a choice of three sex scenes; Fuck Her (requires the player has a cock), Ride Her or Let Her). All sex options from Touch It produce a positive boost to her Relationship meter; Fuck Her will deduct points from her Dominance meter, and Ride Her/Let Her will both add positive points (a lot, for Let Her) to her Dominance meter.

If they Checked and then Fled, she will defensively apologize and the player may then either Apologize (positive points to Relationship meter), or Leave (results in an offended Miranda, meaning "Nasty Mode" is engaged). If they Checked and then either Watched or Helped Her, she merrily notes she'd be happy to have sex with them for real, emphasizing her words by playing with them and giving them a strong arousal. This scene gives positive points to both her Relationship and her Dominance meters.

And here's the 'Nasty Mode' description;

Nasty Mode is a mood-state that Miranda is set into as a response of a strongly negative opinion of the player, caused by hostile reactions from the player towards her. In this mood state, certain interactions are locked off, whilst others are changed for the negative. For example, having sex with Miranda whilst she is in her Nasty Mode makes her much more derogatory and degrading, as well as preventing the player from receiving vaginal intercourse.

In Nasty Mode, Miranda takes advantage of the fact that the Rigard Slums gate is where the "rougher" guards are assigned. As a result, though the player can offer her a blowjob here in exchange for a visa, she will also refuse to honor that visa on subsequent visits, forcing the player to either return to the main gate or submit to having sex with her in order to enter. Initially, she will demand blowjobs, but after five blowjobs, only anal sex will suffice as "payment".

Take what you will from that, but I think it's worse than what I initially recalled. If someone has no interest in a character or fetish, I don't see why they should be punished by being forced into said character or fetish content when they tried to avoid it at all costs.

 

[gillriss]

Can anyone explain the mods to me? I've heard people say they improve things but without a changelog or something I have no idea what I'm getting into

 

[WazaQQXOXO]

Can anyone explain the mods to me? I've heard people say they improve things but without a changelog or something I have no idea what I'm getting into

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4.18 is used as the base version

No more Hashat X Ryn while drinking with Hashat.
Added special drinks that give a permanent +1 to an Atrribute.
Can be bought from Garth for 1000 EC each. You can raise each stat to the game's maximum for your level.
Changed the max level to 10 for the PC. Added a scene where you can fuck Quin's butt.
//New since last patch
It is now possible to have Sanders perform your wedding with Atani.
Added repeatable Kas scenes in the dream palace.
-When you first meet her in the tutorial
-Her Halloween event
-Elf Kas during the ball
Yes the saves are compatible with the normal game. If you start to prepare Atani's wedding finish it before transferring your save to the normal game. If level 7 or 9 come out and you have already reached the level. Switch classes to get the new perks.

 

[CantThinkOfOne]

And you MUST have her if your party relies on healer because there are no better healer unless you run one yourself.

You remember etheryn exists right?

 

[gillriss]

Mega
4.18 is used as the base version

No more Hashat X Ryn while drinking with Hashat.
Added special drinks that give a permanent +1 to an Atrribute.
Can be bought from Garth for 1000 EC each. You can raise each stat to the game's maximum for your level.
Changed the max level to 10 for the PC. Added a scene where you can fuck Quin's butt.
//New since last patch
It is now possible to have Sanders perform your wedding with Atani.
Added repeatable Kas scenes in the dream palace.
-When you first meet her in the tutorial
-Her Halloween event
-Elf Kas during the ball
Yes the saves are compatible with the normal game. If you start to prepare Atani's wedding finish it before transferring your save to the normal game. If level 7 or 9 come out and you have already reached the level. Switch classes to get the new perks.

Thanks! is this the first version, or are there older ones?

 

[UncleTom123]

Anyone ever play Fall of Eden? All the recent discourse here got me thinking back on that game, and how it was probably a lot worse than I remember it. For instance I recall this futa guard who if you expressed any disrespect or dislike toward, she would bar you from entering a city unless you sucked her off. I may be misremembering, but there would be a fucking riot if something like that happened in CoC2, and with good reason.

I think there was some kind of outlaw camp in the forest that could lead to an alternative entrance into the city?

 

[zwagon]

I think there was some kind of outlaw camp in the forest that could lead to an alternative entrance into the city?

i think a later patch also introduced a way into the city through the farm

 

[zwagon]

Except she was considered Urta 2.0 if I remember right. The author wrote her to be good and can't do wrong, so if she's asking you to suck her off to get in - which she does let you in when you do it, it's not a bluff - that's because you're the bad guy and not this individual abusing their authority to let in degenerates who suck off the first dick they see.

There was no nuance to anything in FoE. It was pretty much you getting bludgeoned.

that's not how i remember it. being part of the guard was the same, but miranda was always written to be an asshole with a tendency to rape

 

[Biostar]

Anyone ever play Fall of Eden? All the recent discourse here got me thinking back on that game, and how it was probably a lot worse than I remember it. For instance I recall this futa guard who if you expressed any disrespect or dislike toward, she would bar you from entering a city unless you sucked her off. I may be misremembering, but there would be a fucking riot if something like that happened in CoC2, and with good reason.

I remember the charcater specifically made to spite people who were interested in incest content with Helspawn, retconning the whole interaction as the Champ (You) forcibly grooming her while Helia was too much of a slut to care. Honestly it was a foreshadow for how this game was going to be managed.

 

[Fleep]

Not to add to your workload, but if you ever find the time might I ask you feed into my degenerate fetish of just wanting someone to cuddle and love? Corrupting her is good and the game needs more of that, so that should take priority.

I'm just a sick enough fuck that I'd also like to just romance her and turn her into housewife we could return to. Lord knows I need a reason to return to WC other than going through it to get to manhandled by a giantess in the frozen wastes.

I'll keep that in mind for future expansions

 

[JTakiyaa]

Maybe I'm an idealist. Either way all of this is irrelevant to the initial post that started this, though I probably should've elaborated more. Kind of figured that the whole point that spiting people for not being into the same kinks as you = bad, was obvious.

Is what ur trying to say here is that the player should have another option after being barred out of the city? My memory might be hazy but I think if you refused her you can get the entrance permit from the bandits and she has to let you in. Might be wrong since it was years ago when I played it.

You remember etheryn exists right?

Yeah I just checked her wiki she has a good healer set. I dump her off because of the constant request to popup to tend to her needs. Now that the dildo thing is back I guess she'll replace the Cait in my playthrough.

 

[Daken9]

Most people don’t like Liaden not because she’s a lesbian (I didn’t see people complaining about Garret or Janeen for example) but rather because she has no interactions with you outside Azyrran and because even in their “threesome” scene you feel like a third wheel.
Even if you tell Azyrran that you are not gonna help her with Liaden or other girls she will guilt trip you and say that she will still fuck around when you don’t watch. All this is especially annoying for people who like Azyrran.

Lowkey, if you like Azyrran just never complete her quest. As a NPC she's pretty great but her later (companion) content gets pretty iffy, what with the third wheeling and shit.

Me personally, i could overlook her stuff with Liaden, but her writer turning Brienne into a generic dizzy bimbo, and that whole deal with the milking, is too much for my simping heart

 

[throbzombie]

Of course. Don't let logic stand in the way of your cucking fetish, nor your autistic insistence that Ryn not have a vagina. My PC is corrupt AF though, so I guess I could turn Ryn into a demon. I mean, I don't give a fuck about what Ryn does, but Elthara is my thick-ass priestess bitch.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

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Of course. Don't let logic stand in the way of your cucking fetish, nor your autistic insistence that Ryn not have a vagina. My PC is corrupt AF though, so I guess I could turn Ryn into a demon. I mean, I don't give a fuck about what Ryn does, but Elthara is my thick-ass priestess bitch.

I despise Savin's omegacuck tendencies but Elthara was always written to be a slut. Wsan, this forum's favorite writer writes her, and she has like a bajillion content with other people.

I'm not really sure if this is cuck content since both ryn and elthara constantly fuck others.

Either way it would be a better option to just accommodate people who want to monopolize Ryn. The worldbuilding isn't so important that Ryn just must have an heir. Nobody cares, Savin.

 

[Fiz1247]

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Of course. Don't let logic stand in the way of your cucking fetish, nor your autistic insistence that Ryn not have a vagina. My PC is corrupt AF though, so I guess I could turn Ryn into a demon. I mean, I don't give a fuck about what Ryn does, but Elthara is my thick-ass priestess bitch.

Apparently it's transphobic for their transgender yes-man on the forums to give him a vagina but it's fine if you ask for dicks to be slapped on every other female.

 

[throbzombie]

I despise Savin's omegacuck tendencies but Elthara was always written to be a slut. Wsan, this forum's favorite writer writes her, and she has like a bajillion content with other people.

I'm not really sure if this is cuck content since both ryn and elthara constantly fuck others.

I was referring to Ryn. I personally don't care about "her" but Savin is just going overboard here trying to make sure that Ryn has an excuse to fuck other people. He clearly wants to be taken seriously as a writer (not as much as Tobs does, but still), yet he'll brazenly pull out any nonsense just so that he can write more NTR stuff that a lot of people clearly don't want. Dude's sick in the head, man.

 

[Daken9]

You gotta wonder how in the hell Savin found it in himself to give Arona a sub route.

Thank fuck he did by the way, i'd have been forced to go around with Brienne and... Berwyn or some shit if not.

 

[Daddums]

I'll keep that in mind for future expansions

That's all degenerates like me can ask for really. Appreciated.

 

[Daddums]

What are you talking about? All Ryn and Elthara cuck scenes always have been avoidable. They even fixed the famous Hashat scene, because Savin claimed that he didn't even knew about it.

I am pissed exactly because they don't give you a choice this time except for growing a vagina and bearing a child yourself. Because our lover/sex-slave Ryn is so attached to her dick she never used for most of her life and probably even forgotten how it looks like that she refuses to grow one herself. Fucking fine.
But what about magic or even Lumia herself? Can’t she help her favorite race queen and her lover to make a child? Gods gonna continue being useless? Fucking fine x2.
How about we adopt someone then? Where all the orphans that watched they parents being killed and raped by demons? Because that also would make all that demon invasion more believable and dangerous. Not blue blooded enough? Who cares, since MC most likely not a noble too? Who is gonna oppose the queen when ALL fucking nobles are dead. Fucking Elthara? I don’t think she will, but even if she for some moronic reason is, then I will gladly fuck her into submission.
Maybe we will see the growth of Etheryn character and how she learns how to be a good mother for a damaged orphan/-s and a good queen at the same time. Heck we could even get a Kinu done right at the end of it.

What logical excuse do we have for not making all of the above but instead transform Ryn into Dom Arona 2.0 with a fucking harem except for Savin being an asshole and a cucklord?

Savin ruined Etheryn for me with that decision. It’s not implemented yet sure, but it’s like rewatching GoT while knowing how it will end. Sucks any enjoyment right out of.
From now on Ryn is in the pile of a “I would prefer not to interact with you ever again” content for me along with Quint and Takahiro.
The only hope is for mods now.

P.S. It’s also a double cucking since I like Elthara too. Good job Savin, keep it up.

If you could rail Ryn into Elthara to conceive the child are you up for that? Not that Savin would do it, but on the off chance he somehow has a glimmer of sanity that's the best we can hope for.