Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.46] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Smopy]

dude... Why the 3 text-based games that I like are in a shitshow state?

Lilith's Throne takes ages for any new content but when that "new content" comes out it's like 5-10 minutes worth of read or look at this new area with lots of placeholders and nothing to do (yeah I know Inno works basically "alone", but really, 1-2 months of wait for what?), LT is a time bomb until the game can't suffer anymore from performance because of the old java version being used, I can see this game being abandoned at some point because either of burnout from Inno or because the game is a bloated mess of spaghetti code.

TiTS got an HTML/EXE version and so I was able to finally revisit it after years and they managed to fuck that version too, every release is meaningless and they always manage to break more stuff with each release (and the new UI is a fucking nightmare), the game story is still in the same place since the last time I played it (the flash version back in 2017-2018), idk what exactly they have been "adding" to the game in the past years. (I could be wrong about this last part but from what I played again, yeah, still on the same place)

And then CoC 2, each release just mid to worse: the story gets shitter every new release, new random NPC that I don't care, new random scene for a random NPC that I will read once and get bored and forget about it completely, the corruption level is just a number that's goes up and down for me (really, what exactly that does to your character other than transform you into a semi-demon or whatever?), I said that before but F MC or M MC content is piss-poor balanced (one has way more things to see than the other), the combat is just a dump of text in my face that I just skip (TiTS has a more engaging combat, even LT for that matter), I was really hoping for modders to save this game because the devs can't get their shit together but of course they need to ruin that part too. (not open sourcing the game and planning to put a fucking DRM in this game, like really?... fuck off)

I know 50% of this post have nothing to do with CoC but I think you can get my point. In the end, I just wanted a good text-based game. (I'm open to suggestions I guess)

 

[Raf-Raf]

dude... Why the 3 text-based games that I like are in a shitshow state?

Lilith's Throne takes ages for any new content but when that "new content" comes out it's like 5-10 minutes worth of read or look at this new area with lots of placeholders and nothing to do (yeah I know Inno works basically "alone", but really, 1-2 months of wait for what?), LT is a time bomb until the game can't suffer anymore from performance because of the old java version being used, I can see this game being abandoned at some point because either of burnout from Inno or because the game is a bloated mess of spaghetti code.

TiTS got an HTML/EXE version and so I was able to finally revisit it after years and they managed to fuck that version too, every release is meaningless and they always manage to break more stuff with each release (and the new UI is a fucking nightmare), the game story is still in the same place since the last time I played it (the flash version back in 2017-2018), idk what exactly they have been "adding" to the game in the past years. (I could be wrong about this last part but from what I played again, yeah, still on the same place)

And then CoC 2, each release just mid to worse: the story gets shitter every new release, new random NPC that I don't care, new random scene for a random NPC that I will read once and get bored and forget about it completely, the corruption level is just a number that's goes up and down for me (really, what exactly that does to your character other than transform you into a semi-demon or whatever?), I said that before but F MC or M MC content is piss-poor balanced (one has way more things to see than the other), the combat is just a dump of text in my face that I just skip (TiTS has a more engaging combat, even LT for that matter), I was really hoping for modders to save this game because the devs can't get their shit together but of course they need to ruin that part too. (not open sourcing the game and planning to put a fucking DRM in this game, like really?... fuck off)

I know 50% of this post have nothing to do with CoC but I think you can get my point. In the end, I just wanted a good text-based game. (I'm open to suggestions I guess)

At this point I play DoL to distract myself from these.

 

[Walk Cycle]

TiTS got an HTML/EXE version and so I was able to finally revisit it after years and they managed to fuck that version too, every release is meaningless and they always manage to break more stuff with each release (and the new UI is a fucking nightmare), the game story is still in the same place since the last time I played it (the flash version back in 2017-2018), idk what exactly they have been "adding" to the game in the past years. (I could be wrong about this last part but from what I played again, yeah, still on the same place)

I like TiTS more than CoC2 by a long mile. But the content drought it's currently having is terrible. Gedan has been trying to fill cracks on the games' code but a new bug appears out of nowhere or breaks something that wasn't broken in the first place. New characters are added but they're incredibly buggy everytime they're introduced, like Sophora and Jasvalla.

 

[striker129er]

You bastards removed Berwyn because it's "too many companions", but then add in Viviene.

Fuck you Fenoxo!

 

[Sirfappington123]

I like TiTS more than CoC2 by a long mile. But the content drought it's currently having is terrible. Gedan has been trying to fill cracks on the games' code but a new bug appears out of nowhere or breaks something that wasn't broken in the first place. New characters are added but they're incredibly buggy everytime they're introduced, like Sophora and Jasvalla.

Imagine supporting that game financially for months, only to get 2 carbon copy futa stalkers as the only content of note.

I dont even know how people can justify supporting that little content. It's approaching Cloud Meadow levels of non-content.

 

[FluffyDaemon]

dude... Why the 3 text-based games that I like are in a shitshow state?

Lilith's Throne takes ages for any new content but when that "new content" comes out it's like 5-10 minutes worth of read or look at this new area with lots of placeholders and nothing to do (yeah I know Inno works basically "alone", but really, 1-2 months of wait for what?), LT is a time bomb until the game can't suffer anymore from performance because of the old java version being used, I can see this game being abandoned at some point because either of burnout from Inno or because the game is a bloated mess of spaghetti code.

TiTS got an HTML/EXE version and so I was able to finally revisit it after years and they managed to fuck that version too, every release is meaningless and they always manage to break more stuff with each release (and the new UI is a fucking nightmare), the game story is still in the same place since the last time I played it (the flash version back in 2017-2018), idk what exactly they have been "adding" to the game in the past years. (I could be wrong about this last part but from what I played again, yeah, still on the same place)

And then CoC 2, each release just mid to worse: the story gets shitter every new release, new random NPC that I don't care, new random scene for a random NPC that I will read once and get bored and forget about it completely, the corruption level is just a number that's goes up and down for me (really, what exactly that does to your character other than transform you into a semi-demon or whatever?), I said that before but F MC or M MC content is piss-poor balanced (one has way more things to see than the other), the combat is just a dump of text in my face that I just skip (TiTS has a more engaging combat, even LT for that matter), I was really hoping for modders to save this game because the devs can't get their shit together but of course they need to ruin that part too. (not open sourcing the game and planning to put a fucking DRM in this game, like really?... fuck off)

I know 50% of this post have nothing to do with CoC but I think you can get my point. In the end, I just wanted a good text-based game. (I'm open to suggestions I guess)

Pretty much same situation here.

All my favorite porn games are abandoned or stuck in development hell.
And when a new one pops up that I like, it usually shares the same fate after a few months.

I mostly just check back on CoC 2 once in a blue moon because all the better options are dead or content starved.

 

[menatv]

Even though the updates have been later than normal recently and lacking a lot of content, at least you can say the game (such that it is) is still being worked out and updated.

Wish other games that I initially liked when initially released could say the same thing for.

 

[TheVegnar]

Wow wow wow my guy as much as most of us dislike what they have done/are doing to the game that is fucked, you are talking about taking away someone's livelihood as some kind of casual revenge.

Well, It may be an underhanded thing to do, but it would teach them a very very very valuable lesson. It is just an option, not actually have to do it. Especially when they drove the game into shit, and then went above the call of duty to remove mods. They don't really deserve to get 30k a month for the so called bs they call real work. -_-

Revenge is a Dish best served Cold. And it is very Cold in Space. ( DAMMIT that would wording would have worked so much better for Trials than coc2. oh well ).

 

[M0nte]

I'm sorry to break your dreams but here you eat more minotaur meat than rabbit......

I am dog meat lover myself.
See June, Liulfr, Berwyn and when I am really fucking desperate, Garths son.

Speaking of Liulfr, god damnit Birds, come back!

Pretty much same situation here.

All my favorite porn games are abandoned or stuck in development hell.
And when a new one pops up that I like, it usually shares the same fate after a few months.

I mostly just check back on CoC 2 once in a blue moon because all the better options are dead or content starved.

Any recommendations? For my male intake I am just going through Otome games these days.

 

[Lord Kentus]

Speaking of Liulfr, god damnit Birds, come back!

<_< Would you?

 

[M0nte]

<_< Would you?

Would I what? Mind break that boy into my breeding bitch? Most certainly.

 

[Malcowitz]

COC2, for all its numerous faults, at least still has a decent amount of preggo content. The whole "no modding thing" is pathetic, but very typical of these sort of petty tyrants that the internet created daily when they get a smidgen of power.

I mean, the fact they still even care about the combat in the game is fucking pathetic: no-one gave even the tiniest of shits about combat in these games; it's mostly just makework to put between scenes and let things have at least some progression, but any time spent on it is wasted.

It's also real shameful how bad they keep their wiki; devs not maintaining their own wikis is bottom tier shit.

 

[KloneZone]

It's also real shameful how bad they keep their wiki; devs not maintaining their own wikis is bottom tier shit.

Why don't they just let people edit that wiki?

 

[Raf-Raf]

Why don't they just let people edit that wiki?

You don't want a shitpost site be called a wiki.

 

[FurrBat]

Lilith's Throne takes ages for any new content but when that "new content" comes out it's like 5-10 minutes worth of read or look at this new area with lots of placeholders and nothing to do (yeah I know Inno works basically "alone", but really, 1-2 months of wait for what?), LT is a time bomb until the game can't suffer anymore from performance because of the old java version being used, I can see this game being abandoned at some point because either of burnout from Inno or because the game is a bloated mess of spaghetti code.

I was/am with Liliths throne since the time I found it on fenoxo's site and that was fucklong ago like 5+ ? years and fuck man I still remember the old roadmap/placeholders on the original map that had version numbers for projected implementation of specific locations(plains,jungle,savannah) but thats old news, also by this point I feel like sooner than later the game itself will choke one the spaghet code that its programmed in.

In regards to wiki, hadn't they said something along the line of not trusting the massess with maintaining/adding content to the wiki and only authors or trusted people can change that ? I may be misremembering tho as that topic wasnt talked about for months. Still it seems petty as shit or just powertrippin to not let people handle the wiki, I could understand if it was updated regularly and not in the state that it is right now.

 

[mrttao]

I mean, the fact they still even care about the combat in the game is fucking pathetic: no-one gave even the tiniest of shits about combat in these games; it's mostly just makework to put between scenes and let things have at least some progression, but any time spent on it is wasted.

It's also real shameful how bad they keep their wiki; devs not maintaining their own wikis is bottom tier shit.

They care because it is important for them to keep the MC week and their self inserts stronger than him.
They literally flipped their shit when some pro gamer managed to defeat an unwinnable combat and introduced drastic nerfs to make it impossible.
They routinely rant and rave about how power fantasy is BAD and MC is supposed to be a weakling.

To the players the combat is a chore they don't care about. But to the dev it is of critical importance.
Imagine if a mod like CoC Xianxia existed for CoC which made you actually powerful? Savin would have a stroke

Why don't they just let people edit that wiki?

they are control freaks

 

[arls120]

Why don't they just let people edit that wiki?

That is a fantasy of power and fantasies of power are not accepted here.

 

[Kallisto]

Any recommendations? For my male intake I am just going through Otome games these days.

Any good ones?

 

[Quintilus]

I dont even know how people can justify supporting that little content.

Several explanations.
People who
low tier supporter, dollar or two;
play it once in eternity;
like excess of dominant futas;
like previous game;

 

[Malcowitz]

Why don't they just let people edit that wiki?

Because they're incompetent. I wrote about this earlier in this thread but they are absolutely terrible game designers because they have the worst possible attitude towards making games, like incompetent dungeon masters in Dungeons and Dragons (which they frequently allude to as inspiration, ironically enough) they believe they have a "vision" that should be forced onto people, but they aren't fucking Hideo Kojima, they're Hideuos Fox-furries and amateurs when it comes to game development.

Both the mods and the wikis involve relinquishing control, and small petty people don't want to give up the power they have, because again, they're xiaoren, small, petty people. Any and all changes are solely supposed to be at their beck and call and control; that's why they pretend that their forum submission nonsense is the same or better than modding: it lets them maintain their self-image as being powerful.

But they're not. They're amateur devs getting paid for making a smut game. They have to protect their delusion of adequacy and like all delusionals they lash out at those inflicting reality on them. They get away with it because they have a niche; while there's been a few devs following Fenoxo and the original COC they haven't yet managed to mount a real challenge, but we'll see if time doesn't change that. (Especially not TITs has gone, hah, tits up with that atrociously shit UI that manages to keep all the bad parts of the old one while throwing out the few decent things it had)

edit: Look at how they view characters for instance; they write down who "owns" it and get hissy over them; this is because they're not competent game devs but roleplayers who write smut. This is why they have to have "permission" to do things (though I doubt they really care that much and just use it as an excuse)