Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.46] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[A Burning Conscience]

Surprised?
Anyways unless I'm mistaken you can't even finish the quest if you corrupt the hive and ghost evelyn. That's some powerful forward thinking.

Can confirm this is true, tested this after the update. Just conjecture, but this probably came about because a couple of years back now, when they were last talking about corrupted content, they were bandying about the idea of removing the corrupted hive content because "No one plays corrupted content," and "It makes no sense wasting time writing stuff most players won't see". Maybe they just had a fit of laziness and forgot to remove it, like they forgot to add Berwyn's dom scenes back.

Seems like the best end for this quest is, never do it at all. Just like Kiyoko and the sex-pest temple.
All this quest does is make a worse Azzy, give another useless weapon (at least to me, I play mage so...), tease dragon content only to give the player a series of scenes of playing with (essentially) themselves and having wet-dreams, and meet some mandate to round up the dragontaur's content. It just seems like an excuse for the writers to play with each other's toys some more.
Unless you really like Evelyn, which is fair, she ain't my thing so can't speak to her content, but she is never losing that Dick down this route.

 

[thecatcameback]

I like Ashe, so far she's been a pretty nice character. Her being one of the few that are just into the MC. Wish Ashe had a special move like the Lightsaber though.

 

[Quintilus]

Skow somehow managed to make her even worse

First one shes in character, so eh, fine, okay.
Second one looks like a bad comedy. Like, instead of pushing it to the limit, to make it obvious that shes joking/horny as fuck/etc, she stops on the middle, where its...well, weird for sure. Its not edited text for rofls, right!?
Third one...context missing!?

 

[NODOGAN]

Should also probably mention that apparently it was dual wieldable in the patch it came with, but was nerfed to only be usable with a shield.

And just like that they ruined my Rogue, because we just CAN'T have nice dual-wielding with unique weapons in this game I guess! (and by nice I mean weapons that don't WASTE stats on fucking magic boosting when it's obvious I wanna use them to do stabby things and not magic things! c'mon guys, you taking inspiration from DnD, Magic +3 Daggers anyone?¡)

 

[NODOGAN]

I'm bored and curious so let's talk some nerd stuff! how you guys build your Black Mages to make them (since Savin sure as hell won't push buttons our way to get OP without some metagaming) powerful?

I tend to go:
1) Character Building: Wyld Elf+Black Mage+Arcanist for a sweet +3 to Willpower at the start.

2) Gear: Mathiha's Titanic Hat, Cloak of Winters, Kiyoko's Amulet (At least till she's free, then Magatama, wish there was another necklace that boosted spellpower in the game), Tiran Vestments, Metal Wand, Bull Totem, Reagent Pouch, Guldring with Wizard Ring, Linen Tunic, Latex Boxers, Arm Guards and last but not least Winged Sabatons (Trying to have the biggest spellpower I can from items.)

3) Spells: Bolstering Dance for my At-Will (for some reason this is STILL useful AF and the shitty A.I that doesn't know how to heal only boosts it further), Dischord and Leaping Bolts for my Recharge Spells, Grand Finale for the Encounter one and Banishment for the Ultimate.

 

[Alexandeufdkddk]

It's fine. Cool flaming mace. Here's the stats:

A magical flanged mace of gold and bronze, containing the soul of "Bringer of Ash, The Fire That Renews The Forest and Scourges Foes."
Info
Value: 0 ArmorPen: 20 Accuracy: 10 Sexiness: 5 Attack: Physical Crushing: 25 Fire: 15 BLADED, MELEE, UNIQUE, UNSELLABLE, UNDROPPABLE

Thanks

 

[mrttao]

Can confirm this is true, tested this after the update. Just conjecture, but this probably came about because a couple of years back now, when they were last talking about corrupted content, they were bandying about the idea of removing the corrupted hive content because "No one plays corrupted content," and "It makes no sense wasting time writing stuff most players won't see". Maybe they just had a fit of laziness and forgot to remove it, like they forgot to add Berwyn's dom scenes back.

> No one plays corrupted
> In a game literally called corruption of champions
> So lets delete this content

galaxy brain move there devs
although, since they deleted all the corrupted content it is now technically not wrong. nobody plays it because it does not exist

 

[Wrynn13]

More like okay we made alternate corrupted routes for the first few areas now what's next, oh Tobs wall of word vomit shitsunes. Aaaaand no one wants to make a corrupted route suddenly cause they'd have to compete with his million word garbage and have to deal with the shitstorm he'd throw over anything even slightly bad happening to his foxxen. So no more corrupted routes get added and the whole idea gets phased out. So again it goes back to Tobs being Tobs and Savin not doing his job to deal with Tobs and keep the game on track but who cares since we are printing money with this garbage am I right?

 

[Konstantinus]

More like okay we made alternate corrupted routes for the first few areas now what's next, oh Tobs wall of word vomit shitsunes. Aaaaand no one wants to make a corrupted route suddenly cause they'd have to compete with his million word garbage and have to deal with the shitstorm he'd throw over anything even slightly bad happening to his foxxen. So no more corrupted routes get added and the whole idea gets phased out. So again it goes back to Tobs being Tobs and Savin not doing his job to deal with Tobs and keep the game on track but who cares since we are printing money with this garbage am I right?

I can not remember about a corruption route about the Slutsunes. Only if you want to support Taoth or ... what whas the other God name? Whatever, it whas a god war about being the true Foxgod between two manipulating bastards but the rest whas just like described.
There should actually be a corrupt route continuation with amri but that disappeared.

 

[thecatcameback]

Teaming up with the CoC1 style fox morphs against the kitsune would've been a fun crossover with the old game, not going to lie. Raiding Kohaku's store with Raphael and bullying her. Stealing the booze from the twins. Setting fire to the whole tree. Good times.

 

[Wrynn13]

I'd even argue that the kitsunes are the corrupt route since their tree is taking the spirit of the forest away from the Wyld. Imagine being able to side with the druids and driving the colonizers back across the ocean where they belong. Tobs head would explode.

 

[NODOGAN]

Setting fire to the whole tree. Good times.

I like Ryn and Hethia & I think the whole Wylds story is sad, specially so when I learned that the Kitsune's big ass tree was draining the Wylds from their own powers and that the Old Wyld has resisted EVERY SINGLE ATTEMPT them foxes had made to win them over (way to go nature spirits!) clinging to the hope that the Elves would return to them and help them...only to finally accept their death by draining and urging the last few elves that remember them to let go of the past and save themselves just...that genuinely made me sad.

TLDR: If there was an option to utterly DESTROY the Kitsune colonies to save the Wylds and help the Druid Elves I would, the Wylds deserve better.

 

[Alterism]

I like Ashe, so far she's been a pretty nice character. Her being one of the few that are just into the MC. Wish Ashe had a special move like the Lightsaber though.

The taur followup shows that her mind stuff only works on the person holding the mace so it's not like she's swimming in choices. It's either MC and later down presumably whoever inherits the lance or forever in isolation in a mace. I felt much the same way when Linzi get's turned into a book in Kingmaker. It's not a very fun ending for any character.

And just like that they ruined my Rogue, because we just CAN'T have nice dual-wielding with unique weapons in this game I guess! (and by nice I mean weapons that don't WASTE stats on fucking magic boosting when it's obvious I wanna use them to do stabby things and not magic things! c'mon guys, you taking inspiration from DnD, Magic +3 Daggers anyone?¡)

If we're going to talk from a strictly mechanics point of view, the mainhand/offhand stuff never made much sense with how they designed perpetually doomed the combat is. You can smash that auto button and leave it on for the entirety of every encounter and never lose once. Admittedly this is just as well given the unforgivably high rate of boredom as they pretend effortlessly grinding through imps/wolves/miners #2313521 is an interesting, engaging, enriching experience or even a good tool for storytelling.


That said

"No one plays corrupted content," and "It makes no sense wasting time writing stuff most players won't see".

Can't remember this conversation so I'll take your word for it. But that'd be a dumb justification given that the only actual corruption paths you can take the impact things (taur village and hive) removes large ass amounts of content for significantly less content. Even if you were holding out... Let me put it this way.
Centaur Village was finally pushed in July of 2020. It's 2023 now. If you went corrupt Ahmri is STILL missing.

Though in the end who knows. Maybe it's in the coding pipeline (it's not). Maybe they're waiting on artists (they aren't). Savin could be putting his foot down right now (he's not*).

 

[Lord Kentus]

Well its just depressing that the game has essentially tossed the corruption path to the side but I guess it reeked too much of power fantasy

 

[G3b]

Well its just depressing that the game has essentially tossed the corruption path to the side but I guess it reeked too much of power fantasy

Everything that is a player choice IS a power fantasy.

 

[Konstantinus]

Everything that is a player choice IS a power fantasy.

Nah it depend on the choices. Imagine if an unwinnable battle is resolved by one of three choices.
1. Lick boots clean that are more dirt and horse shit than boot.
2. Put a bullet through your head.
3. Your wife is put through mind breaking NTR sex and you have to watch everything.
Does those choices sound like Power Fantasy? No? But from your argument they should be cause you could choose.
Similar it is here especially with the Kitsune and specially Nakano.

 

[Quintilus]

2. Put a bullet through your head.

This options implies there are ways to stop game from happening, which is pretty powerful fantasy, if you ask me.

 

[A Burning Conscience]

These days the closest thing you get to a power fantasy in this game is the knowledge you are avoiding certain content, in a way blue-balling the writers by not being the audience to their fetish-bate.
Ah yes, dear TOBS, I know how much you wish me to read through five whole pages of your work and masturbate to its glory, but I chose instead to say fuck you to your god and give a one fingered salute on my way out without even activating the fast travel point. Now that's a power fantasy, spite.

Side note, anyone else seeing how stupidly cluttered fast travel is getting now? Like that's three fast travel points in Harvest valley now, two of them right next to each other for one and done content.

 

[Bootyman]

More like okay we made alternate corrupted routes for the first few areas now what's next, oh Tobs wall of word vomit shitsunes. Aaaaand no one wants to make a corrupted route suddenly cause they'd have to compete with his million word garbage and have to deal with the shitstorm he'd throw over anything even slightly bad happening to his foxxen. So no more corrupted routes get added and the whole idea gets phased out. So again it goes back to Tobs being Tobs and Savin not doing his job to deal with Tobs and keep the game on track but who cares since we are printing money with this garbage am I right?

Also it's like

> start working on corruption content
> prominent writer doesn't want to do corruption so a significant chunk of the game won't have corruption content because he doesn't want anyone touching his characters.
>corruption content stalls out because nobody feels like writing it
> decide that fans don't want any corruption content because nobody talks about the tiny bit that doesn't mean anything in the end.


Not offering something and then saying that there's no demand for it by pointing at how little you have created is a self fulfilling prophecy, it's like giving Atugia no content and then saying that nobody wants to play as Atugia.

 

[thecatcameback]

Side note, anyone else seeing how stupidly cluttered fast travel is getting now? Like that's three fast travel points in Harvest valley now, two of them right next to each other for one and done content.

it's stupid that ashe's cave gets a fast travel point while the farm/lucario don't