Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.4] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Wrynn13]

Oh god, that godawful Gweyr shit locks content behind it

Most of the worst shit in the game has stuff locked behind it, I'm fairly certain it's done on purpose.

 

[Gar1]

Guys, just a big question... How in the world is there NTR in this game? We are talking about a hypersexual world, where sex is practiced widely and without ties.

Note: I don't play CoC 2, just seeing the NTR tag here made me very suspicious.

There's sex scenes where your companions/love interests are getting raped in front of you if you lose a battle.
The game is also filled with a lot of other shit that goes into that territory like the PC being a third wheel in NPCs relationships or certain scenes where, for example, the PC is jerking off in a corner while a minotaur fucks his dullahan girlfriend, but insinuating that that kind of stuff might be written for the NTR/cuckold audience too usually causes spergouts in the fanbase and writing staff for some reason.

 

[CboyC95]

I was super excited until I realized it was by Gardeford. He can't write jack shit. And that's exactly what's happening with Lumia. Her scenes are so...dumb. Lengthy prose in all the wrong places and too little detail in the actual act of sex that matters. Plus why the fuck does his Lumia confess in the middle of a sex scene to a hero that she talked to for like 10 minutes total.

Had she been handled by a more competent writer, I definitely would have liked her. You're the super special champion breeding goddesses, what's not to like?

But Savin just had to give writing Lumia to the guy who wrote the second least liked companion in the entire fucking game, Atugia. The companion that literally nobody, no fucking body gives a shit about. At least Quin is polarizing, he has a tiny minority that likes him, and others hate him.

Nobody cares about Atugia simply 'cause all of her writing fucking sucks. And to not be remembered at all is worse than being hated.

The guy who wrote that, wrote this super big character that everyone was excited about. Wtf was going through savin's head I wonder.

Edit: Actually, to make a completely uneducated guess, Gardeford probably promised Savin a few Arona x Lumina scenes in return for being able to write her. Also lol at the forced Atugia scenes in the quest. Dude just had to showcase his OC.

I kinda like Atugia.

 

[Airell]

Yeah, I get it... After reading some comments... I think CoC 2 evolved in a totally opposite way to what I like to see in a game... Apparently, very little romance and vanilla around here too. I guess, in the end, I'm not going to play this.

And c'mon, why does the protag have to be the big weakling of the thing? This is ridiculous.

 

[Indium]

Eh...probably not.

The NTR is mostly when your companions get sexed up when you lose. It...probably has little to nothing to do with Cait specifically.

Completely forgot about those scenes. Very good point.

 

[Gar1]

And c'mon, why does the protag have to be the big weakling of the thing? This is ridiculous.

Because the guy in charge of the game is a self-admitted cuckold. Which wouldn't be a problem if the game was called "futa horsecocks, sluts and cuckoldry" instead of "Corruption of Champions 2". There'd also be 90% less bitching about it in that case, since people who don't know any better wouldn't get baited in expecting something different.
But then again, if it was called that instead it also probably wouldn't make 30k bucks a month.

 

[Skandranon]

There'd also be 90% less bitching about it in that case

Hahahaha.

But seriously, no.

 

[Gar1]

Hahahaha.

But seriously, no.

If the game was called "futa horsecocks, sluts and cuckoldry" it would immediately filter out all of the people who are into vanilla stuff, CoC1 type weird shit and all the non-futa, non-slut and non-cuck people in general.
So yes, there'd absolutely would way be way less complaints, and way less eyes on the game in general.

 

[M0nte]

It is not like the game hides what it is: the first characters you meat are futa demon, slutty cat, slutty male minotaur and a dog girl that has a breeding fetish. If you do not like any of that then you can just leaves. No one is really being fooled, except maybe people that want corruption content.

 

[Gar1]

It is not like the game hides what it is: the first characters you meat are futa demon, slutty cat, slutty male minotaur and a dog girl that has a breeding fetish. If you do not like any of that then you can just leaves. No one is really being fooled, except maybe people that want corruption content.

Even leaving aside the really out there fetish shit like the parasite stuff that the first game had, if you don't give a single fuck about corruption or transformation content then why are you calling your game CoC2?
CoC2 has absolutely nothing to do with the prequel, the only reason it was even called "CoC2" was because at the end of CoC1 development, pardon my french, Savin was neck deep in Fenoxos rectum because he knew the only way he'd get people interested in his shit sequel was if it was called that.

 

[ara1111]

POWER FANTASY

MC in CoC2 is fairly sue'ish what with damn near everyone falling in love with you on sight (even the fucking main villain dotes on you) or after having sex once and seeming to have no autonomy otherwise and your 'magic essence' being described 'as larger than a mountain' or some shit (and not temporarily like that time Brienne ascended into pure magic). They just suck at sex and tap out disappoitingly quickly compared to CoC 1 where you could tentacle orgy elves and fuck the best girl for entire days and they tap out of tits where you just cum hilairiously large amounts (which you can do in coc 1 and 2 but tits has by far the most dialogue and interactions about this)

Things really start to line up when you recall that Savin is currently DMing a 3+ year, 160+ session DnD campaign that features at least one character from CoC2. We're all just the marionettes dancing on Savin's railroady strings.

Do the DnD campaigns resemble what happens in the game much?

slutty cat

I always found her funny because it gives you this explicit NTR warning when you recruit her (even though the game is designed for you to fuck everyone and only Brienne/ente really comment on this) and then she never really sleeps around. TiTs has your allies do that much more. I think the only time it really happens in CoC2 without it being a direct result of your loss or picking it in a menu is with Hashat, where its also really OoC, a result of a million different writers.

 

[Smopy]

I mean, I'm an NTR guy myself so I'm fine with the NTR content, but the problem with it (or so I think it is) in CoC 2 is that NTR is shoved down the player's throat and you can't do anything, I don't think NTR is a problem in CoC 2, the problem is that the devs are forcing this kink in the game and if you don't like it, you just get the "deal with it or fuck off" mentality.

also I don't like Cait because of the NTR is because I just think she is annoying or WAY TOO MUCH self inserted in something for no reason.

 

[ara1111]

is that NTR is shoved down the etheryn's throat

More accurate. With her you can have an adventure spanning consensual loving relationship with absolutely no hint she'd ever fuck anyone else without you being into it as even at her most confident she's still an extremely dependent hard-sub.
Then you sit next to Hashat and she's randomly sucking her off.
With Cait you meet her she says "I like dix is that cool" and you say yes and you enter that relationship under the explicit understanding its going to be swinging. Its not NTR at all. Its just character variety.
Unless you mean something else. Maybe Brente? Brinne only makes out with her own family in threesomes you agreed to so that's not NTR, but he can fuck tons of shit, although I don't remember it ever being a result of anything other than you making the choice to tell him to fuck something.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

Guys, just a big question... How in the world is there NTR in this game? We are talking about a hypersexual world, where sex is practiced widely and without ties.

Note: I don't play CoC 2, just seeing the NTR tag here made me very suspicious.

I wouldn't really say there is NTR, just a lot of voyeur and "sharing". And well, the lead dev is a literal cuck.

 

[Skandranon]

where you just cum hilairiously large amounts (which you can do in coc 1 and 2 but tits has by far the most dialogue and interactions about this)

It's William.
Well, and Wsan.

William and Wsan both have a kink for large amounts of jizz, their writing almost always reflects it.

Lots of writers mention it, but not a lot of writers will spend a paragraph or nore devoted to gargling down dozens of gallons of ball juice like those two will.

In fact, they share a lot of kinks.

 

[ara1111]

It's William.
Well, and Wsan.

William and Wsan both have a kink for large amounts of jizz, their writing almost always reflects it.

Lots of writers mention it, but not a lot of writers will spend a paragraph or nore devoted to gargling down dozens of gallons of ball juice like those two will.

In fact, they share a lot of kinks.

Bless them for it. One of the reasons that's by far my favorite game in the series, along with the race of cock-sucking snakes and the combo of not having combat balanced around 3 allies when I just want to play one dude (and as a result a lot of sex scenes ending with 'whelp better get back to the gang') and not being a click menu rng fest like coc 1 is, gooation form and what feels like the most responsive bimbo dialogue.

 

[Smopy]

More accurate. With her you can have an adventure spanning consensual loving relationship with absolutely no hint she'd ever fuck anyone else without you being into it as even at her most confident she's still an extremely dependent hard-sub.
Then you sit next to Hashat and she's randomly sucking her off.
With Cait you meet her she says "I like dix is that cool" and you say yes and you enter that relationship under the explicit understanding its going to be swinging. Its not NTR at all. Its just character variety.
Unless you mean something else. Maybe Brente? Brinne only makes out with her own family in threesomes you agreed to so that's not NTR, but he can fuck tons of shit, although I don't remember it ever being a result of anything other than you making the choice to tell him to fuck something.

What I meant in my post, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that the feeling I get when someone mentions NTR in CoC 2 is more or less how I described it and I've been following this game/thread for a long time.

 

[M0nte]

and as a result a lot of sex scenes ending with 'whelp better get back to the gang

Do you have problem with it in general or just with how frequently it happens?

 

[FeelsDankMan420]

Nice to know people are still rightfully shitting on this game

 

[ara1111]

Do you have problem with it in general or just with how frequently it happens?

Both. Hanging with a gang is just inherently less cool than being a sole merc/hero/asshole like in the other games and it leads to CoC2 having massively less enjoyable sex scenes than TiTs post fight to me since they end in-universe so fast in comparison.
Win fight, cum once, done.

What I meant in my post, and correct me if I'm wrong

I don't know if you're wrong that other people say that, I don't follow the thread often. I do know they're wrong if they're saying that.
The cat specifically says its an open relationship literally like 2 mins into the game or you don't have one. That's not NTR.
The chick in frosthaven you can sent people to fuck with you only ever fucks allies as a gift from you while you are there with them. That's not NTR.
The orc chick and as far as I remember Brente only fuck around if you talk to very specific npc's and ask them to fuck them. That's also not NTR, although I've never done Brente's family content with him as a guy.
Etc.
I can't think of a single character you are actually in a proper relationship with who fucks around with people who aren't you by any other method than you telling them to other than that one scene with Etheryn. Everything else is either a random fling or the characters simply do not have any content beyond you fucking them.
The closest thing to NTR beyond that scene is literally you constantly cheating on everyone all the time with everyone.

Much as I like TiTs, it was much worse with forcing you into situations you don't like, especially with Anno's sister who'd often drag you off completely unprompted and unavoidably and dom half the time you see her. Although I gather she's a very unpopular character, specifically because of this.