thecatcameback

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I doubt that's ever going to happen with any characters sent there and if it did, I'm sure they'd warn the player. Personally wish I killed them on my playthrough because they're so... eh.
I basically beat them into submission but didn't engage further since they were still 'we'll fuck you up if you lose at this fun game', unlike the cat merchant and plant.

On a side note, I did like the first half of the teatime quest. I like fluff quests. Even though I didn't want to bang the dragontaur the stuff with her was nice. Was a funny touch that she uses the magic orb as white noise machine. I do sort of wish they had written her with a selkie daughter from her old lover. I kind of wanted to see what an image of a dragon centaur seal would look like.
 
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It feels more like an arranged marriage of convenience than one born from affection and care.
Because it is. She wanted something from me and I wanted something from her. Thought it would become more than that but Tobs decided we needed to be an outsider to our family too.
I got a question for people that did the fleep gambling demons, do they wreck up the place if you bring them to the Wayfort? Like them corrupting people. The cat merchant so far hasn't, but I always worry she's going to spontaneously turn my wayfort into demons.
Forget they're even there, so most likely not.
 

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FYI if you rush the rift to get to gated content know that you will miss the stuff in Sanders closet quest (winged sabatons) cause if you do the abyss first it says you failed the quest even if you didn't have it yet.
 
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Transformations doing things. Sensible chuckle.
Speaking of wings the sun castle actually lets you use them with a aerial training course you can challenge a valkyrie to. And I'm not sure if was my characters agility or the fact she naturally had wings (wyld elf) but she beat the pants off her.
 

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Speaking of wings the sun castle actually lets you use them with a aerial training course you can challenge a valkyrie to. And I'm not sure if was my characters agility or the fact she naturally had wings (wyld elf) but she beat the pants off her.
I haven't done anything with the valkyries after saving Lumia, how's the writing for them?
 
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I haven't done anything with the valkyries after saving Lumia, how's the writing for them?
Forgettable. It's not TOBS copypasting like he does with some of the kitsune stuff, but honestly I found it hard to engage with any of the valkyries. Not helped by the fact that the "Conflicts" are resolved really quick.
There's a big muscle valkyrie who everyone things is a dom, but she wants so bad to be a sub. So you go "Hey I think you should be a sub and have my babies," and she goes "Okay, but we need Lumia to agree to that," so you walk two tiles and Lumia goes "Oh, so you're finally ready to be a sub, sure, here you go."
Thus ends the play.
 

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There's a big muscle valkyrie who everyone things is a dom, but she wants so bad to be a sub. So you go "Hey I think you should be a sub and have my babies," and she goes "Okay, but we need Lumia to agree to that," so you walk two tiles and Lumia goes "Oh, so you're finally ready to be a sub, sure, here you go."
Lol that's some "Small on Top" level of storytelling, except straight.
 
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Lol that's some "Small on Top" level of storytelling, except straight.
I think my summary covered all the major talking points. If not, I blame how forgettable it was.
It's the same energy as the really early harvest valley stuff that doesn't fit the game anymore. They're not bad... but they felt unneeded given how out of the way they are and most of their content is covered by other NPC's who could use the dust cleaning off. That said, I don't know what the "Becoming a Valkyrie" content is like, I've got one old female save that I just stopped progressing with because there was so little content, maybe Lumia is a better god than Keros and her scenes are worth it?

EDIT: Oh I also remembered having unlocked the option to breed the winged woman that her dialogue didn't even change for the sex scene, not even a throwaway joke about "Taking her in missionary for the sole purpose of procreation" like you got in CoC for Shouldra in silly mode. Really hard to feel invested when it seemed like the writers weren't either.

Actually, this is going to sound really hateful but I do not intend it as such, I've just dipped in to the Thrud (muscle sub) content again to make sure I'm not being unfair, and it really makes me think of the AI storytellers I play around with. Maybe that's why it doesn't work for me, because it doesn't read different to what I'm getting a lot of already. It reads like heavily curated AI content; prompt, AI takes it a little weird, does its best, conclusion, then user comes in and makes it all flow. For instance:

On approach, Halima sighs with relief and walks over to you. "Hey, Champion. How are you?"
"You know. Living the dream."
You shrug amiably. "Thanks for asking. What about you — what's wrong? Where's Annika?"
"It's Annika. She's, um..."
"She's not having a good day."
Thrud, the enormous half-jotun warmaiden you met earlier, moves into view. Her slightly slumped shoulders and pensive frown speak volumes about the nature of that not-good-day Annika's having. "I don't know how that meeting you were holding went, but —"

She initiates, but then you need to prompt what's wrong, she repeats it's about Annika ignoring your prompt, a third character gets injected out of no-where and you get a reminder about them despite previous interactions. It's a lot of wasted space.
 
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I haven't done anything with the valkyries after saving Lumia, how's the writing for them?
The TF itself is a huge let down, especially compared to Keros. Maybe it's just because my character is a wyld elf with dove wings as her mark but literally the only thing that changed was my corruption icon. Wooo. The writing is okay, not great, not bad, just okay. Sunstrike is nice, especially as a at will. when I do get the lightsaber that with the gladius and sunstrike is going to be a ton of holy damage. I need to remember where I learned that holy strike(?) spell before cause that would make it even better. The quest with Lumia wasn't bad though, fairly original as far as this game goes even.
 
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The TF itself is a huge let down, especially compared to Keros. Maybe it's just because my character is a wyld elf with dove wings as her mark but literally the only thing that changed was my corruption icon. Wooo. The writing is okay, not great, not bad, just okay. Sunstrike is nice, especially as a at will. when I do get the lightsaber that with the gladius and sunstrike is going to be a ton of holy damage. I need to remember where I learned that holy strike(?) spell before cause that would make it even better. The quest with Lumia wasn't bad though, fairly original as far as this game goes even.
Smite Evil? You learn it from mirroring edge fox. You can also learn from Brother Sanders. The Paladin Formerly Known As Kas also gives you a Celestial Smite or you can also learn it from Sanders.
 

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Smite Evil? You learn it from mirroring edge fox. You can also learn from Brother Sanders. The Paladin Formerly Known As Kas also gives you a Celestial Smite or you can also learn it from Sanders.
So far the closest I can find is charge weapon but I don't remember it being a at will. It added holy damage to your attacks like charge weapon does though. It may have been smite evil.
 

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So far the closest I can find is charge weapon but I don't remember it being a at will. It added holy damage to your attacks like charge weapon does though. It may have been smite evil.
Celestial Smite is a rechargable that does holy/thunder damage and Smite Evil is an encounter spell that adds more holy onto the attack and heals you a tiny bit. Charge is at will/stance.
 

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If you think a bit of sarcasm with one word capitalized is a drastic escalation, not sure what to tell you. Even disregarding that, why does emotion = bad?
I was actually referring mostly to this part
If people cry about it because they want to min-max while also wanting the character's content, that's their own problem.
"If people don't like reward options then it's their own problem" is quite a departure from "we should strive to please everyone", wouldn't you say?

But i suppose i should be pleased, because you're now basically saying the same thing i've said in the first place, and which you disputed. So, we're in agreement and can put this to rest.
 
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