Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.4] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Azriel Satan]

I feel like you are forcing your argument with excluding NTR and non vaginal. Like it or not, straight men have cuckold and anal porn as some of their top categories. Also, what would be LGBT about a guy playing a female protag game where she gets fucked by a bunch of guys? That's still just a dude whacking it off to old fashioned woman on man coitus. I think there is way more content for straight men than your post implies. And even then, i'm pretty sure Nonesuch is more so factoring in conventional porn as well, not just porn games.

Scat porn can also be straight but that doesn't mean most people like it.
Bestiality is technically straight but that sure as hell doesn't count.

 

[InquisitorTobi]

I have absolutely zero idea what the fuck you guys are going on about, me? I just want to breed kitsunes, simple as.

 

[Bloep]

Scat porn can also be straight but that doesn't mean most people like it.
Bestiality is technically straight but that sure as hell doesn't count.

Yeah well he's specifically talking about lgbt porn vs straight porn.
Futa scat porn also exists, but you don't see me arbitrarily not labelling it as futa simply because i don't like it.

 

[Comiies]

Once again, Hana has an unique kid and repeatable pregnancy.

>New char
>Shit tons of content
>Other loved characters get nothing

Well well well this is something

 

[Comiies]

Now that the shit postings out of the way.

My problem stems not from the fact that a specific fetish is over-represented or under represented.It sucks that we dont have more femboys but thats not the issue.The real problem comes not from the amount of content being written,but from its quality.Many people wouldnt have as much of a problem they have with futa if instead of "random 3 scene fling character" there existed more fleshed out characters with personalitys other than sheer sexual prowess.Now while i also love these kinds of characters,there is a time and place for them.Plus who says you CANT make a compelling character,with a personality,past,motivations etc that is ALSO hyper dominant sexually?Its all a quality problem.

 

[harem.king]

Yeah well he's specifically talking about lgbt porn vs straight porn.
Futa scat porn also exists, but you don't see me arbitrarily not labelling it as futa simply because i don't like it.

1. it isn't "just because I don't like it".
I would have filtered a lot more things if it was just for dislike.
For example, while I utterly loathe femdom, I recognize it as heterosexual sex.
But if your game has ZERO vaginal sex then it is not heterosexual sex.

2. Context.
If you had paid some attention, I was explicitly refuting a copypasta by nonesuch

So, I was not just refuting a claim of "95% of all porn is heterosexual" but also several other qualifiers by nonesuch.
Such as "male is on top" and "male is object" and "female slathered".

Actually. I really should have filtered out femdom since it goes against the "male is on top"

 

[Skandranon]

But if your game has ZERO vaginal sex then it is not heterosexual sex.

A game focused on blowjobs isn't heterosexual sex?

 

[harem.king]

A game focused on blowjobs isn't heterosexual sex?

correct.
1. you literally said it yourself, it is focused on blowjobs, not heterosexual sex.
2. kissing is kissing, jobs are jobs, sex is sex.
3. You do realize men can suck dick too?

 

[Bloep]

1. it isn't "just because I don't like it".
I would have filtered a lot more things if it was just for dislike.
For example, while I utterly loathe femdom, I recognize it as heterosexual sex.
But if your game has ZERO vaginal sex then it is not heterosexual sex.

2. Context.
If you had paid some attention, I was explicitly refuting a copypasta by nonesuch

So, I was not just refuting a claim of "95% of all porn is heterosexual" but also several other qualifiers by nonesuch.
Such as "male is on top" and "male is object" and "female slathered".

Actually. I really should have filtered out femdom since it goes against the "male is on top"

Nonesuch literally has blowjobs as an example of male on top hetero. I don't know what your argument is then, because it's not against Nonesuch's point. Not counting acts like anal, fellatio (literally anal SEX and oral SEX) as non sex acts is wild to me. Also "job" can be slang for sex acts. Titjobs, handjobs, blowjobs, for example.
If what you actually mean is simply penis in vagina sex, then just say that, because anal sex can absolutely be hetero sex.

 

[Skandranon]

correct.
1. you literally said it yourself, it is focused on blowjobs, not heterosexual sex.
2. kissing is kissing, jobs are jobs, sex is sex.
3. You do realize men can suck dick too?

Oral sex is still sex. Right there in the name.
You do realize you could filter gay out too? Its a tag.

 

[harem.king]

I don't know what your argument is then

We have moved past nonsuch.
My initial post on the subject was a refutation of nonsuch's copypasta.
but right now me and you are having an argument about what count as heterosexual sex.

Also "job" can be slang for sex acts. Titjobs, handjobs, blowjobs, for example.

Those are all jobs, not sex.

If what you actually mean is simply penis in vagina sex, then just say that, because anal sex can absolutely be hetero sex.

Anal sex is not called "analjob", it is called "anal sex".
Sex is when person A penetrates person B in either a vagina or an anus.
preferably penetration with a penis. But some other things like a strapon, fist, or tentacle works too.

Jobs are when someone's sex organ is stimulated by boobs, buttcheeks, thighs, mouth, etc.

You could try to argue that blowjob is not the same as the rest, because the mouth is penetrated. while the rest are purely external rubbing.
But the mouth is a special exception. There is a reason why kissing is not sex, and rimming is not either.

 

[harem.king]

You do realize you could filter gay out too? Its a tag.

I explicitly used the gay tag as a filter a few posts ago.

of those 11751 with a male protagonist, 955 are gay. (8.13% of all male protagonist games)

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Oral sex is still sex. Right there in the name.

I disagree with this term, I prefer to the term blowjob as it is more accurate.

 

[Bloep]

We have moved past nonsuch.
My initial post on the subject was a refutation of nonsuch's copypasta.
but right now me and you are having an argument about what count as heterosexual sex.

Those are all jobs, not sex.

Anal sex is not called "analjob", it is called "anal sex".
Sex is when person A penetrates person B in either a vagina or an anus.
preferably penetration with a penis. But some other things like a strapon, fist, or tentacle works too.

Jobs are when someone's sex organ is stimulated by boobs, buttcheeks, thighs, mouth, etc.

You could try to argue that blowjob is not the same as the rest, because the mouth is penetrated. while the rest are purely external rubbing.
But the mouth is a special exception. There is a reason why kissing is not sex, and rimming is not either.

1. Jobs are sexual acts, AKA sex. If you forcibly have oral sex with a woman, that is rape. You are fucking, or having sex with, her mouth without her consent. Would this be mere sexual battery in your eyes instead?

2. Rimjobs can have the tongue penetrate the anus, so you excluding that makes no sense per your own rules.
3. It's crazy to me that you would look at a lesbian couple scissoring and think "yep, no sex going on here"
4. You are describing penetrative sex, not sex altogether:

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[harem.king]

1. Jobs are sexual acts, AKA sex. If you forcibly have oral sex with a woman, that is rape. You are fucking, or having sex with, her mouth without her consent. Would this be mere sexual battery in your eyes instead?
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2. Rimjobs can have the tongue penetrate the anus, so you excluding that makes no sense per your own rules.
3. It's crazy to me that you would look at a lesbian couple scissoring and think "yep, no sex going on here"
4. You are describing penetrative sex, not sex altogether:

You must be registered to see the links

1. the legal term is "sexual assault", not "rape".
Forced kissing and forced groping are considered "sexual assault" too.
that does not mean that kissing is sex.

2. Literally a point I raised. the mouth is an exception.
you say that a rimbjox is sex.
you say that penetrating the mouth is sex.
by your argument, kissing is sex too since a tongue penetrated the mouth.

3. it is crazy to me that you look at scissoring and think it is sex. it is at best foreplay.

4.
A. wikipedia is trash. never use it as a source for anything.
B. I literally used the term penetration. so yes, I am fully aware.
C. if there is no penetration then you are not engaging in sex. "jobs" of various kinds are a form of foreplay. kissing and groping are not sex either, but are instead in the "makeout" stage.

basically the stages of intimacy are:
0. nothing
1. chaste touches. hand holding.
2. makeout. kiss, grope, rub with hands.
3. foreplay. assorted "jobs".
4. sex. penetration

 

[Bloep]

1. the legal term is "sexual assault", not "rape".
Forced kissing and forced groping are considered "sexual assault" too.
that does not mean that kissing is sex.

2. Literally a point I raised. the mouth is an exception.
you say that a rimbjox is sex.
you say that penetrating the mouth is sex.
by your argument, kissing is sex too since a tongue penetrated the mouth.

3. it is crazy to me that you look at scissoring and think it is sex. it is at best foreplay.

4.
A. wikipedia is trash. never use it as a source for anything.
B. I literally used the term penetration. so yes, I am fully aware.
C. if there is no penetration then you are not engaging in sex. "jobs" of various kinds are a form of foreplay. kissing and groping are not sex either, but are instead in the "makeout" stage.

basically the stages of intimacy are:
0. nothing
1. chaste touches. hand holding.
2. makeout. kiss, grope, rub with hands.
3. foreplay. assorted "jobs".
4. sex. penetration

1. Not talking about the legallity of it, more so the semantics. Back to my question, do you think forced oral sex as less severe than forced vaginal sex as the former is not "real" sex in your eyes? Just curious on how you would view that.

2. You literally said that rimming was not sex, did you think rimming didn't involve the mouth before i brought up tongue? " There is a reason why kissing is not sex, and rimming is not either." - you said that.
And no, my decider for what constitutes sex wouldn't be penetration, it would be what parts of the body you use. Rimjobs aren't a sexual act because you MIGHT penetrate the bussy with your tongue, but because you act involves a private area. Kissing someone on the lips? Not a sex act. Kissing someone on the clit? Very much a sex act.

3. "Scissoring is at best foreplay"
So if you had a gf and she scissored with another girl, you wouldn't consider that as her having sex with another person?

4. "Wiki is trash" - why?
So jobs are not sex..... except blowjobs? So they are sex sometimes?

 

[Tsubuhaza]

Now that the shit postings out of the way.

My problem stems not from the fact that a specific fetish is over-represented or under represented.It sucks that we dont have more femboys but thats not the issue.The real problem comes not from the amount of content being written,but from its quality.Many people wouldnt have as much of a problem they have with futa if instead of "random 3 scene fling character" there existed more fleshed out characters with personalitys other than sheer sexual prowess.Now while i also love these kinds of characters,there is a time and place for them.Plus who says you CANT make a compelling character,with a personality,past,motivations etc that is ALSO hyper dominant sexually?Its all a quality problem.

I'll still maintain that back when I stopped, there really seemed to be just springing futas left and right but I think that would be ignorable enough without the other problems faffing about.

Hard to want to stick around dodging dicks when you're not feeling much good from most interactions or any drive to do anything and stuck with a Sonic Chronicles battle system coupled with a hard cap from that time the project lead had a fit.

 

[TheTimeHasCumAndSoHaveI]

man, each time i come back every once in a while i keep reminding myself what they did to berwyn, since there is no other companion i like besides kiyoko and normal brint.

 

[Meatshield236]

Now that the shit postings out of the way.

My problem stems not from the fact that a specific fetish is over-represented or under represented.It sucks that we dont have more femboys but thats not the issue.The real problem comes not from the amount of content being written,but from its quality.Many people wouldnt have as much of a problem they have with futa if instead of "random 3 scene fling character" there existed more fleshed out characters with personalitys other than sheer sexual prowess.Now while i also love these kinds of characters,there is a time and place for them.Plus who says you CANT make a compelling character,with a personality,past,motivations etc that is ALSO hyper dominant sexually?Its all a quality problem.

Agreed on all fronts. The problem is that these writers seem to have a shonen anime character problem, where instead of having a small number of fleshed out characters they have a massive number of shallow characters and a tiny number of kinda fleshed out characters. Now, in some respects I can understand that. This is a porn game after all, and having a diverse array of body types and personalities is a good thing. Buuuut the problem is that this simply isn't the case with these characters. They make one-off characters that are functionally identical to previous characters. And this isn't just a problem with the futas, basically everything on the spectrum has too many overlapping characters.

 

[arcader000]

They do have a core set of characters that are more fleshed out then the rest though?

 

[SirJahar]

They do have a core set of characters that are more fleshed out then the rest though?

The Player Companion characters, kinda, sorta, barely?