Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.4] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Based Department]

Hard? Nah.

Just gotta schlep over to the Steam reviews.

Still don't understand why you'd buy the free version of the game

 

[Skandranon]

Still don't understand why you'd buy the free version of the game

Most likely it's the only one they know about. Being on Steam is a much wider ranging audience than...well, any other platform a porn game could be on, really.

Or just to support the devs once instead of monthly.

Or, like me, you want to show your friends how awesome you are by racking up 2500+ hours in a furry porn game.

 

[Deviton123]

I don't need anybody knowing how degenerate I am lmao

 

[Tripfriend]

I wish I had friends to advertise my degeneracy to

 

[glygoch]

The stories of these games have never been involved nor interesting. It might not be true for other games, but it'd probably be hard to find someone who cares about the main story of these games above the actual porn.

That's a false equivalency. I care a lot about the flavor of my food, but I eat it because ultimately I need it to survive.

The fact that people like porn with a good underlying story isn't neccesarily because they would like the story on it's own, but because it complements it so much that it becomes a whole new experience instead of just "eating".

Edit: Not sure if the story doesn't have the opposite effect in this case.

 

[Based Department]

Yeah well I stopped giving any fuck about coc2s story once you started meeting the 7 jackasses

 

[Us3less]

I too bought the version on Steam to show some support. Not sure i would still do it today tough. I've spend more time playing this game than i should admit though, so i guess it's fair.

Anyways, why is so much of the sex or even relationships in this game about dominating or being dominated by someone else? the more i think about it the more i realize it's like 70% of the content in this game.

 

[Quintilus]

I wish I had friends to advertise my degeneracy to

You have me, m8.

 

[glygoch]

Anyways, why is so much of the sex or even relationships in this game about dominating or being dominated by someone else? the more i think about it the more i realize it's like 70% of the content in this game.

This lack of diversity has become a reccuring topic in this thread. I suspect it also might be part of the reason why people get characters mixed up or why they get the feeling there aren't enough characters or scenes.

I mean, think about it, it's a real struggle. You decide to give them a 40 inch horse cock, and now where do you go from there? How do you write anything other than domination?

 

[MoneyMan181]

The fact that people like porn with a good underlying story isn't neccesarily because they would like the story on it's own, but because it complements it so much that it becomes a whole new experience instead of just "eating".

The thing about a lot of porn games is that the porn is often not necessary to the plot, especially when you get to melodramatic Ren'Py Daz games. A lot of times it feels more like a distraction than anything else, so I don't really believe the porn complements the story aside from a few instances like Pale Carnations or Hero Party Must Fall. Could this just be me being ignorant and not having enough experience with the top games on the site? Sure, but someone is free to prove me wrong if that's the case.

Regardless, the porn does absolutely nothing to help the story in this game so the point is moot.

I mean, think about it, it's a real struggle. You decide to give them a 69 inch giga-horse cock that cums gallons and is better than the PC's dick in every way, and now where do you go from there? How do you write anything other than domination?

FTFY

 

[yuzuyo]

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Ever played Shattered? If some people here are constantly annoyed by the amount of text Tobs puts out, they'd have an aneurysm going through Shattered. Too fucking verbose. But if the dev is making money, some people like it enough, I guess.

I think a nice little plot is cool and all, I enjoy it, but there's a point I get tired of reading lore or whatever and want to see (or read, again) some scenes. Shattered has some nice femdom, but it feels like it's starving people before sparing some crumbs.

City of Broken Dreamers has a nice plot too and it's a lot smoother. Really nice.

 

[smithsmithsmith]

The thing about a lot of porn games is that the porn is often not necessary to the plot, especially when you get to melodramatic Ren'Py Daz games. A lot of times it feels more like a distraction than anything else, so I don't really believe the porn complements the story aside from a few instances like Pale Carnations or Hero Party Must Fall.

This is the real struggle, finding a game that actually manages to merge the porn, plot and gameplay successfully feels like panning for gold in a sewage outlet sometimes. Can't count the number of 5 star games I've played on here that turn out to be galleries with extra steps.

 

[Ssato243]

for me, it is the characters god don't like to be submissive even has I play female I am dominant
so for netorare like someone take my girl is crap
that's why I left the game wait for the moded version for now it is crap for me

 

[new brave]

why i can't even talk to Gytha or anyone in the dungeon?

 

[Alterism]

I dont know if this is a true statement.

All of the most popular porn games are, and traditionally always have been, the ones with involved stories.

ALL?
Koikatsu was #1 on steam for a time. Then there was Honey Selects dominating the scene for awhile. Wild Life and lovecraft are both printing money and~

I feel this needs further elaboration. Because what are we talking about here?
Games like Fate and Underwater Ray Romano (heh) that were able to exist into thriving series without the porn, sure.
Games like the first fencos own CoC, TiTS, and games like Honey Pop were games where the main story was secondary to the characters and the porn.

Then you've got the ones that against all odds hit #1 entirely off of the porn like Holey House or w/e it's called.

As it turns out, there are some porn games that work for story, some that have strong characters, some that run on the gameplay, and some that thrive off of good porn.


While some games have involved stories to carry their nature as a porn game, those games have consistently been able to stand without their porn.
Remove the porn from Fate or Utawarerumono and you still have series that spawned an enduring franchise.
Remove the porn from CoC2 and you have a subpar small world with bland characters, a medicore combat system, and multiple clashing writing styles with an inconsistent player avatar.

I should additionally state that the plot quite literally hasn't gone anywhere.

Spoiler: Brief bit of story and world dressing down

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Like the biggest strength of text-based shit is you can go as in-depth as you want with characters and interactions but they just don't do that for some reason.

The reason is that it takes effort and desire.

 

[QuedzaDrake]

Tobs walls of text deal psychic damage

Alterism walls of text deal psychic healing

 

[glygoch]

As it turns out, there are some porn games that work for story, some that have strong characters, some that run on the gameplay, and some that thrive off of good porn.

You could dissect this even further. How deep things need to go before it's considered a "story"? For example, do people like maid outfits because they look nice? Or is it because they symbolize something that immediately prompts your mind to make connections?

I could search and find a mountain of porn of, say 2B. Is it really because the character design is so outstanding? If so, what's so unique about it that was never done before?

Do kids who watch Star Wars research its deep lore? Or are they pulled in imagining they're a fancy sword warrior?

When you play a game like this, do the words themselves turn you on? Or is it what the words mean, what images they create in your mind?

What's the reason behind "Show, don't tell?" Even a simple Wikipedia search leads to the exact same idea expressed by different writers.

These are all just my thoughts and opinions, but I don't think a story means books full of lore and worldbuilding. All it takes is to give you some prompts and let you and your imagination create the story.

 

[NaturalEnclave]

Most of the writers have clearly grown far too attached to their pcs to let us abuse them. I can kind of understand, I've been a DM for almost 20 years now, and having to hurt some npc I love would pull my heartstring but this is a porn game. Nobody is invested in the story.

I like being a piece of shit netori fat bastard, I like being a harem master vanilla boy and I like good old ntr. Let me break Ryn into a pathetically adorable dependent trap boi, let me corrupt Cait into having even less self-respect than she does now and -truly- become the village bicycle, and let me abuse Kinu to give her an actual reason to hate me... Oh well, at least my anger at wasted potential keeps making me feel alive.

Honestly, I always saw Corruption genre being sort of separated into two areas.
The serious corruption and the goofy corruption
The serious corruption refers to stories that involve corruption that take place in a grounded world with a serious, believable stories that you can imagine happening to someone IRL. It's the reason why Emergence had a period where it shocked people, due to being presented as a more realistic take on the idea.
The goofy corruption refers to stories where the characters basically exist to be corrupted (or have that option). There isn't any drama in it - you are enjoying... dare I say it, a power fantasy of being this bastard who's cock turns any girl or boy into a total slut. There is little logic to it - if the story wants characters to become corrupted it will get there in the hottest, most bat shit unrealistic way designed to fulfil a fantasy.

CoC2... I can't view it as a serious story. It has moments and beats I can take seriously, but for me, it's a story about an average guy with a big cock who recruited a slut that can heal him and fucks anyone as her religion and a massive hunk of a bull who is his bro he is willing to bang chicks (and boys) with, who go to the forest to stop evil Red Woman and 90% of the local populace wants to jump on their cock. This is goofy and with good writing it's a simple, yet fun premise that can still include worldbuilding and story that is engaging.

Dark Knight, especially if it was actually realized well, could in theory make the game more grim with options of making characters vastly different, but in a way that is still activating my cock. However, it's really hard to say for me if it would be the right way to actually add corruption to the game.

Do I want to be the bastard that makes woman cry before turning them into mind broken sex slaves with Tobs being forced to write a 20 paragraph long descriptions of their inner conflicts and struggles? Or do I want to be some Dick Dastardly Richards, who turned his goofy pink cat into the local cum dumpster who enjoys every second of her new life and still goes onto the usual adventures with the MC?

I believe this is one of the reasons why Dark Knight is so undercooked. Devs aren't sure if Dark Knight should be this edgy, grimdark story or a vessel for the player who wants to enable as many degenerate and immoral content as possible without being barraged by angst that writers themselves aren't too interested in, because they care about their story the characters that they've put in the game too much. They take the story of the game too seriously to take a piss and embrace the goofy corruption, yet are too attached to do the serious corruption.

 

[Thatguymercy]

The plot of coc 2 is pretty simple. Kas is the big bad and you the champion are either in love with her or want her dead. So you gather your eccentric butt buddies to travel location to location Kas has been too and fix the bullshit she started, fucking and sucking every npc along the way.
I think this is a relatively engaging plot with potential and unlike the rest of the game it's really where the "corruption" in coc 2 is.
The real issue is the lack of focus on it, like devs straight up forget it exists and as soon as the plot stopped the world building did and the funniest thing is that Kas is essentially our way point on the map.Once she stops moving, the player character is just stuck between the areas she already visited.
So the pc is just stuck in a endless loop of walking in the same 9 explorable locations with some having more content than others and just doing side characters chores until Kas decides to stop playing Baldurs gate and actually complete the plot.
Now that's not to say I completely hate the side content, there's some shiners especially with Brihaus coming out but stuff like the Etheryn or Berwyn quest makes me wish I can just cut off some writers fingers Yakuza style.

 

[Comiies]

The plot of coc 2 is pretty simple. Kas is the big bad and you the champion are either in love with her or want her dead. So you gather your eccentric butt buddies to travel location to location Kas has been too and fix the bullshit she started, fucking and sucking every npc along the way.
I think this is a relatively engaging plot with potential and unlike the rest of the game it's really where the "corruption" in coc 2 is.
The real issue is the lack of focus on it, like devs straight up forget it exists and as soon as the plot stopped the world building did and the funniest thing is that Kas is essentially our way point on the map.Once she stops moving, the player character is just stuck between the areas she already visited.
So the pc is just stuck in a endless loop of walking in the same 9 explorable locations with some having more content than others and just doing side characters chores until Kas decides to stop playing Baldurs gate and actually complete the plot.
Now that's not to say I completely hate the side content, there's some shiners especially with Brihaus coming out but stuff like the Etheryn or Berwyn quest makes me wish I can just cut off some writers fingers Yakuza style.

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No no you see the lore of coc2 is shit.Now why do i say that you ask?Well it completely fucking invalidates sooo many things from coc1 that its funny.Like its sad how diff the 2 games world settings are.If you(or anyone) wants to know what i mean ill send that whooole rant i poste a while back about how the games lore are diff