VN Ren'Py Cosy Cafe [v0.11] [Cosy Creator]

[HiP1]

I don't know what to make of this. Is it fact or are you trying to say that it's justified because it's the whole game and this length of a spoiler is expected with the theme I'm going for in writing?

yeah. your style is basically like watching a streamer playing a game but in written form
it can be enjoyable.
in other threads, I always stumble upon it several days too late, so I prefer not to reply to avoid too much time traveling, and you might not necessarily remember all the details of what you thought and felt in the moment if you're already in another game.

I think you should make some kind of website or blog or all of your big spoilers. some people could enjoy it. and it would be kind of like a review site, but more authentic.

Hmm, I suppose not being allowed to cum is a long term masochistic thing rather than the short term punishment she would receive and for him the sex would happen sooner and might be more satisfying knowing how desperate she is. Perhaps she would rather bring herself to beg to please him than cum by herself without him knowing as there is never preventing her unlike a certain collar in another game.

yeah, she is free to accept it and restrain herself on her own. that's the whole pleasure of it. it also strengthens their bond if she does it.

Yeah and the Gilbert's wouldn't be able to contribute so it would be double for Hamilton anyway. I also don't think we knew that Hamilton is the shark on that side of the council when I wrote this.

you don't know Hamilton is a super mega greedy asshole yet, but you already know he is a manipulating bitch after what he pulled at his party. you also know he is the kind that uses his daughters as currency. and he never defends Sarah from the harassment of her sisters even though he knows of it for sure. you can extrapolate the kind of man he is from there already.

I feel like I should have known that part about "suki" already...? I've seen that word before many times...

yeha, it's very commonly used in any anime or manga that has even a bit of romance in it

Well alright. I feel like Rachel's story is gonna be exceptionally boring without that non consent stuff. Most of the time Rachel has done something, it haven't been that bad and she was given the information. Some maybe even find her persona funny. I may just be too vengeful for my own good about this but regardless, her story gotta be really good from now on to convince me. I dunno... make her ultra submissive and jealous or something. Or make her feel so incredibly guilty that she feels like she deserves whatever punishment comes her way? Perhaps if the mc lets her off every time, she will crack.

actually that would make Rachel's story more interesting. she would have to express consent, telling MC she wants it out loud convincingly... imagine it when she came to talk to MC privately in the café, I think she wanted to begin dropping hint that she wants it or that she is the winner of the lottery (after stealing the ticket book, most likely) and wanted her favor to be a spanking... and i also think like you that she might have a rape kink after she caught MC and Lucy.
or she could ask him to treat her like his girlfriends just to be able to understand why they all like being treated like that and why they defend MC so fiercely. it goes against her current feminism beliefs, even though real feminism is about equality and giving women the chance to choose what they actually want even if it is total submission to a man.

I dunno, £1 a day is bad no matter how you look at it. I don't think I will truly budge on that after what you just said.

because you only the work/salary stuff. but she gets to keep her current predicament a secret, she gets to be spared the humiliation of not being able to pay, she also gets to spend time close to MC everyday (which is basically what she actually wanted from the start, so investing all her savings paid off), and she gets to enjoy the punishments and the hand holding much quicker than she thought.
though, the downside is that she has to endure Victoria's constant provocation, but she kind of deserves it after how she treated Vicky.

So how do I find games tagged that and would it be exclusively one male mc and only female characters?

honestly, I don't think there is a tag for that. in AVN stories, it should be one male and tons of bi girls, I guess, giving the target demographic. but depending on the dev, there could be other guys.
polyamorous relationships are just about each member loving any or all of the other members. there is no restriction. each will have their own rules. the closest thing I have read would be the harem in bare witness, it's pretty much a polyamorous relationship, though there is only one guy.

Yeah, I'm a little upset he didn't read it. This is not some random contract, this is a serious political issue. He NEEDS to read it and he should want to learn it now that he can't get out easily.
Do you mean like he be present and she votes while his there? It would still look bad if he was sleeping and Alison was voting, it's better if he just does the voting for now.

even if he doesn't want to read, he could just ask Alison to give him a short summary of the important topics and items, so he doesn't come totally unprepared and surprised. it would be her job as his secretary anyway.
and I meant he could be present or not, doesn't really matter. if he is present and sleeps while she votes, it shows his complete trust in her to all the other families, which would be good for when she goes to represent him, like the after party, or some kind of negotiations.

I am aware of this. What I didn't mention here is that he could have given her credit for that one but told her that she will have to do better the day after or else she won't get credited. He already did that but on the same day without crediting the first. It creates hostility and stricter obedience by not letting her get away with the first image. I suppose I would have taken the softer approach here.
Speaking of softer approach. I image I would be more similar to Mr Bennett than the others.

the first image was basically the same as the one she already sent. he just told her not to do that... and remember that she is not obligated to send him a picture. she could just wash the dishes and nothing else.

I agree with this actually, and I may go soften that line up a little now. Originally the second photo was supposed to be only a little better than the first. But then when I came to rendering it, it turned out much better than I had intended, so the MC does feel a little too harsh here.

Edit: never mind, I think I misunderstood. I've softened up his response to the second photo, not the first. So she does still have to send the second.

yes, the rating of the second picture seemed a bit strict compared to what an inexperienced teenage girl can achieve with a simple selfie on a phone camera. but I assumed it meant she would get much much better at it, and MC would guide her in the discovery of her talent

 

[VoidExile]

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[HiP1]

Oh I dunno... My naturally lazy personality makes a blog or website seem like a scary idea I don't want to pursue. I've been experiencing a slowdown recently for these games as games are not cross referencing each other enough and they tend to go for people games or their own circle/sphere/group etc, so I don't know how many games I would actually enjoy are still out there and I don't find myself starting from scratch and replaying the older games. I would have to move over what have already been said if such a website is something I would do. My poor professionalism is certainly a set back but if I could bypass the laziness barrier and have someone do the work for me then perhaps, but again, I can be a bit eccentric

you could just use an AI to assist you and overcome your laziness

A person like Catherine being forced on the mc for example. She should not be there, she said she was raised for this and she made the decision on her own, what do you even make of that?

that's the world she grew up in. that's all she knows. for her, it's normal. she is to be traded for her family's benefit. and given the current state her family is in, she is even more motivated, maybe even happy, to be able to fulfill that role and make it her purpose to restore and free her family.
when she falls in love with MC later, it will boost that motivation even more. being useful and being happy at the same time, what more could she ask for?

Yeah... The worst kind of person.

he doesn't even respect his daughters and thinks of them as property, that's why it's a bad idea to sell yourself to him and it would not help you grow your own faction. it would be a huge hindrance. he would want to keep you under his thumb forever.

if that's what she wanted to ask but it seems too outrageous.

personally, I feel like Rachel is a huge closet freak, and that "outrageous" will be very mild compared to what she will become

Oh well there you go. There is CNC, would that be considered rape by tagging purposes? Given how much she seems to hate men, I feel like I may have seen a scenario where it's always the one who seems to hate them the most that are secretly begging to be raped(as horrible as that just sounded)

That also ties into the idea that Rachel could be the lottery winner. Victoria haven't said no and nor have anyone else to the idea of Rachel being one of his girls. It's entirely possible that either her facade is starting to crack or her beliefs and that she either wants to understand what is going on or fulfil or CNC or rape kink.

Yeah, you're right. Rachel might flirt with CNC, I think so too.
But to me, it might be tough to write properly.

Your reply regarding the £1 thing. I'm not quite sure what to reply, there's too much. My perspective assumed £1 is the set pay but my interpretation is that the original sum might be £10 or more per day, most of which is deducted to keep her situation a secret and to give him him some compensation for keeping her around. His essentially milking this situation just to test her loyalty and because he knows she won't protest. It might also be important to acknowledge how easy it was for her to send those topless picks. Would a stuck up princess really do that? Is it an act of saying it will never go beyond pictures and dishwashing because of who she is?

it's also supposed to be a punishment, like you said previously.
but only Cosy Creator could tell us the real reason behind that price

now that she is spending time with him and can start getting closer, the pics are an easy way to seduce him, knowing the fact that he is a horny pervert and if she is to be his wife anyway, it doesn't matter that he gets those pics.
and she purposely avoids giving the sexual items. it keeps her desirability higher. at least from her POV.

This is one of the art styles I don't like. It looks a bit disturbing to me. More rough.
Harem and Lesbian tag. Plenty of those. Had one person earlier say that he wish the dev would make lesbian relationships in the game optional.

yeah, Daz games are very common. I also prefer games using HS1&2.
but it was more to illustrate the kind of relationship we were talking about.
the girls here are friends, and you were curious about what would happen if some would interact with each other. that other game shows you a good example.
Only Cosy knows if the girls will be more involved among themselves. even Victoria doesn't seem to want to cross that line and mainly wants to make it more enjoyable and hot for MC.

Sure, but then she would never get out of the contract as every mug would be an unknown sum and every plate would be £5 lost. Even if she could go 5 days without breaking a single plate, if she broke it on the sixth day, she would have earned £1 in 6 days which would mean she would be stuck working there for something close to 7 years when the day no one is working is added on top.

she just needs to get better. for now, she doesn't have any skill other than being entitled and bitchy

 

[Horny Toad]

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[Cyrisx123]

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[Hobodouken]

I am really enjoying this game so far. Pretty decent story for now with a lot of great characters. With all that being said, we must protect Lucy at all cost.

 

[Gigachad9321]

Good stuff. The MC is very good, a dom chad MC with cooking autism is quite refreshing. Attractive girls with nice developments. Nice plot to get you invested further. Very nice.

 

[VoidExile]

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[notBatman747]

This game is a rare gem.
Personally I don't care for (male)domination but story got me invested and some sexy scenes were really good.
If the author keeps it up he is bound to be among the GOAT's of this site.

 

[verianautilus]

pc full galery anyone?

 

[-Maniackanime-]

pc full galery anyone?

Looks like you have to play it all again... Unfortunate but good luck

 

[TigerWolfe]

This game is a rare gem.
Personally I don't care for (male)domination but story got me invested and some sexy scenes were really good.
If the author keeps it up he is bound to be among the GOAT's of this site.

It helps that cosy seems to, to me as a non member of the bdsm community with some fringe knowledge from knowing people within it, at least have some understanding of what being a Dom is. Most of the stuff labeled as maledom on this site is really just misogyny: sex edition.

 

[Skep-tiker]

It helps that cosy seems to, to me as a non member of the bdsm community with some fringe knowledge from knowing people within it, at least have some understanding of what being a Dom is. Most of the stuff labeled as maledom on this site is really just misogyny: sex edition.

Most femdom doesnt do much better. What i wanna say with this is, you're right, most devs BDSM experience is based on their pornhub history...

 

[Cosy Creator]

It helps that cosy seems to, to me as a non member of the bdsm community with some fringe knowledge from knowing people within it, at least have some understanding of what being a Dom is. Most of the stuff labeled as maledom on this site is really just misogyny: sex edition.

Honestly, I think some people miss the distinction in both directions. Some people want flat out abuse, while others think that anything short of outright simpery is abuse.

On the "misogyny: sex edition" side specifically: even if you look past the obvious immorality of it because it's just a game, being oppressive/abusive in your relationship just sounds miserable and exhausting to me. Occasionally I get messages from people wanting the MC to be much harsher, especially with Vicky and Sarah, for "disrespecting" the MC - but I just think to myself how tiresome that life would get, if you couldn't tolerate a little teasing and playfulness from the girl you love. And equally, how soulless it would make the characters if they eventually just stopped because they were scared of the MC's response.

 

[TigerWolfe]

Most femdom doesnt do much better. What i wanna say with this is, you're right, most devs BDSM experience is based on their pornhub history...

Less experience there as I'm pretty much just a harem game player and the "average" audience for harem games has so little tolerance for femdom that something as minor as the girl telling MC to do something will get the masses screeching. So it never really even makes it to the more aggressive stuff you tend to see in "maledom" routes.

 

[HiP1]

Honestly, I think some people miss the distinction in both directions. Some people want flat out abuse, while others think that anything short of outright simpery is abuse.

On the "misogyny: sex edition" side specifically: even if you look past the obvious immorality of it because it's just a game, being oppressive/abusive in your relationship just sounds miserable and exhausting to me. Occasionally I get messages from people wanting the MC to be much harsher, especially with Vicky and Sarah, for "disrespecting" the MC - but I just think to myself how tiresome that life would get, if you couldn't tolerate a little teasing and playfulness from the girl you love. And equally, how soulless it would make the characters if they eventually just stopped because they were scared of the MC's response.

yeah please, don't go that route. those people seems to confuse abuse and slavery with a consented submissive play. they forget that outside of the bedroom, there is a life to be enjoyed
forced submission that fosters fear, how can they hope to get love, trust and real lasting loyalty from that ?

Well you certainly make the Catherine situation sound more acceptable. It's still uncomfortable seeing someone who grew up so differently trying to make it work when clearly this is not the natural way... It's the smart way tho, considering how the mc is expected to rise to the top(which I'm still not sure how he could do with a cafe's income without charging extreme prices) and also considering the mc is the best case scenario as far as how she might be treated behind the scenes.

MC could just occupy the restaurant space. it seems there is only one other decent restaurant in the city (Akatsuki's family), and it might be the same situation in towns around the county.

I'm obviously not qualified to respond to this. It's just important to remember that you don't have to rely on writing alone as you can have Rachel unrestrained or smiling in situations where the CNC/rape vibe gets too much. Or were you implying more from a general stand point that CNC is just not easy to write in general and it has nothing to do with what people think about it?

honestly, I'm not into CNC, so I don't "practice" that kink play. but from people I know that are into it, and from what you can gather around the blogs that talk about it extensively, the CNC depicted in porn and in AVNs seems to be very far off the real thing. here it's like real rape but with the girl smiling, WTF. it lacks all the preparation, the communication, and trust built over time.
if Rachel's story is headed to CNC, then I hope Cosy takes his sweet time and not make it the first or second sex scene without any preparation.

Given what we seen so far, it seems like every girl is actively avoiding touching each other sexually. Even things like kisses or cum sharing(which I expected a couple times tbh) seems to be kept away. I would be extremely surprised and irritated if the dev went 180 and added the lesbian tag after all this time. The whole game would have to be slightly re-rendered to hint towards the lesbian content if that were the case. Like there is so many situations where lesbian content could have taken place but was actively avoided and that's quite impressive given how most games with lesbian content even without the tag somehow struggle to avoid it.

but is it lesbian tag worthy if the girls only touch each other when MC is involved and only to make him happy and hornier ? deep debate, you have 4 hours..
even if I know what the purity crowd would shout and write on their pitchfork and banners, it would feel more natural that everyone involved actively participate instead of solely focusing on MC's dick. he only has one. and there is so much combinations you can do. having some awkward waiting for their turn could make it weird

 

[LucienEvansX]

Hmm maybe I’m interpreting things wrong, but I kind of expected the MC to show

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Then again I’m hoping we’ll see a little more of his dark personality from the past surface (not to the girls though).

 

[AslanBalaur]

Trying to DL from the gofile site and keep getting a "webpage refused to load" error message. It tells me to check my firewall or proxy settings, but my firewall let's all traffic from pages on this browser go. (I am careful where I go and have strong antivirus and malware protection) I am not using a proxy tonight as nothing I am doing need it. Is there a problem with the page?

 

[GamerDaddy]

Trying to DL from the gofile site and keep getting a "webpage refused to load" error message. It tells me to check my firewall or proxy settings, but my firewall let's all traffic from pages on this browser go. (I am careful where I go and have strong antivirus and malware protection) I am not using a proxy tonight as nothing I am doing need it. Is there a problem with the page?

hmm works for me, maybe its your browser some browsers dont like gofile (never change firewall settings)

 

[VoidExile]

but is it lesbian tag worthy if the girls only touch each other when MC is involved and only to make him happy and hornier ? deep debate, you have 4 hours..
even if I know what the purity crowd would shout and write on their pitchfork and banners, it would feel more natural that everyone involved actively participate instead of solely focusing on MC's dick. he only has one. and there is so much combinations you can do. having some awkward waiting for their turn could make it weird

Realistic harems aren't fair and make the needs of the girls far higher than the male can provide. That's why a lot of harem games make the mc have a lot of stamina, multiple cum counts or some magical pleasure enhancing effects making the girls satisfied faster, a combination of all. This is partially why I believe it's better if some or most of the girls are bi so they aren't left sexually unsatisfied until it's their turn. A functional harem either requires superpowers, multiple males or bi girls. At least that's my viewpoint on it.