VN Ren'Py Cosy Cafe [v0.11] [Cosy Creator]

[Scarecrow13]

Yeah that always struck me with this game, and if the girls ever do open their mouths it's usually just for a smile or something small. Most other VNs, Daz especially, there's much more variation with the facial expressions, the curvature of the hands and feet and what not, but HS2-based games there's not much of that. Haven't played many HS2 VNs; just this, Ripples, and Harem Hotel

Yeah, I don't see it as a problem; more an idiosyncracy of the game. The characters are highly expressive even without - a big plus to the creator.

 

[shitass1001]

"Sarah's sister looks good, but we all know she is currently a scorpion, and petting will invite a nasty sting!"

Is she, though? Okay, yes, she is...but is it her personality, or is it her fighting for a spot? She's in fierce competition. She's an older sister, with more expectations. she's in rivalry with not just her other sisters, but other older daughters. That's gotta be intense pressure. And let's be honest - Sarah probably wasn't very warm in return. But Sarah got 'let off the hook', so to speak, with no expectations, while the intense pressure continues for Mira.

I'm not trying to excuse it, but I just feel she's much more affable than some of the genuinely cruel characters, such as Mika and even Catherine as originally portrayed. And oh-so-eager to please. Both of which make her a good candidate for some of MC's, ah, 'corrective' talents.

My concern would be how it would be handled with Sarah. That was a pretty emotional scene. But where there's emotion and hurt, there's also some room for healing.

I dont think Mira is a terrible person, but her and the other older sisters bullying seems to be a large part of where Sarah's body issues stem from.
We get one example of their bullying in the game so far, and its fair to say it affects Sarah to her core

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Sarah clearly has walls up that cause her to act generally rude to people, maybe save for lucy, and yet one singular interaction with her older sisters causes her much strife. To me, this would indicate that this "little boy" insult is one they have been using for some time. Not to mention they are her sisters, her insults were playground level, they went straight for the throat.

That isn't to say that Sarah is a good person and Mira isn't. Sarah writing "slut" on Victoria's face, while knowing its a moniker Victoria doesn't like. She is effectively doing the same thing as her sisters, just on a smaller scale.

I certainly dont doubt the pressure aspect, and that definitely excuses SOME of Mira's actions, for instance the conversation she has with the Mc in the most recent update:

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This conversation shows the pressure she is under, and how the founding family teachings have affected her. She was taught to see other people her age as a threat, to always think about power dynamics and manipulations. Her thinking that her sister was the one who set the whole thing up isn't a normal thing that a normal person would think, it shows how her mind has been altered by her higher standings in the family.

I think the important thing to remember is that due to how the hierarchies of the families work, Sarah was not a threat to Mira at all for her entire life, Mira is an older sister of one of the earlier wives, and Sarah is the youngest of the 4th wife. So what would Mira stand to gain by bullying Sarah? Sarah was effectively a non player in the founding family crap until the MC arrived, Mira's actions towards her cannot be explained or excused by founding family pressures.

I think Mira could be redeemed, but in this VN? probably not, it doesn't seem like that's the angle Cosy is going for (but my predictions have been wrong countless times for this VN so who knows).

 

[Scarecrow13]

I think Mira could be redeemed, but in this VN? probably not, it doesn't seem like that's the angle Cosy is going for (but my predictions have been wrong countless times for this VN so who knows).

Well, she's one of the four girls in the teaser Side Girl pics, is why I've thought of it. And she seems less mean than Blonde Half-Sis. And while the teasing's got a lot of history, I believe there was mention that she's had augmentation surgery. And while that might be a positive for some, there's still an underlying message of "You are nothing but a Sex Asset to be bartered". And she probably had under-development issues herself.

And yet, here is her younger sister who didn't get subject to the same costs, scoring the most eligible bachelor. (although she didn't know it until later).

 

[Mark Loring]

Well, she's one of the four girls in the teaser Side Girl pics, is why I've thought of it. And she seems less mean than Blonde Half-Sis. And while the teasing's got a lot of history, I believe there was mention that she's had augmentation surgery. And while that might be a positive for some, there's still an underlying message of "You are nothing but a Sex Asset to be bartered". And she probably had under-development issues herself.

And yet, here is her younger sister who didn't get subject to the same costs, scoring the most eligible bachelor. (although she didn't know it until later).

I know Lily had breast implants, I don't think either of the half-sisters have

 

[vsvsx92]

I dont think Mira is a terrible person, but her and the other older sisters bullying seems to be a large part of where Sarah's body issues stem from.
We get one example of their bullying in the game so far, and its fair to say it affects Sarah to her core

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Sarah clearly has walls up that cause her to act generally rude to people, maybe save for lucy, and yet one singular interaction with her older sisters causes her much strife. To me, this would indicate that this "little boy" insult is one they have been using for some time. Not to mention they are her sisters, her insults were playground level, they went straight for the throat.

That isn't to say that Sarah is a good person and Mira isn't. Sarah writing "slut" on Victoria's face, while knowing its a moniker Victoria doesn't like. She is effectively doing the same thing as her sisters, just on a smaller scale.

I certainly dont doubt the pressure aspect, and that definitely excuses SOME of Mira's actions, for instance the conversation she has with the Mc in the most recent update:

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This conversation shows the pressure she is under, and how the founding family teachings have affected her. She was taught to see other people her age as a threat, to always think about power dynamics and manipulations. Her thinking that her sister was the one who set the whole thing up isn't a normal thing that a normal person would think, it shows how her mind has been altered by her higher standings in the family.

I think the important thing to remember is that due to how the hierarchies of the families work, Sarah was not a threat to Mira at all for her entire life, Mira is an older sister of one of the earlier wives, and Sarah is the youngest of the 4th wife. So what would Mira stand to gain by bullying Sarah? Sarah was effectively a non player in the founding family crap until the MC arrived, Mira's actions towards her cannot be explained or excused by founding family pressures.

I think Mira could be redeemed, but in this VN? probably not, it doesn't seem like that's the angle Cosy is going for (but my predictions have been wrong countless times for this VN so who knows).

Did you name yourself "Pickle Rick"?

 

[Mark Loring]

Did you name yourself "Pickle Rick"?
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I had to look that name up myself to see what it meant. From a cartoon I never watched and don't intend to. Add that name to all the weird MC names I've seen over the years.

 

[capt_obviously]

Well, she's one of the four girls in the teaser Side Girl pics, is why I've thought of it

Not a teaser. It was a commission by a supporter and I don't think it's canon or a preview

 

[Mark Loring]

Not a teaser. It was a commission by a supporter and I don't think it's canon or a preview

Nope; just a commission. A pretty good one too.

 

[Ultimecea]

I know Lily had breast implants, I don't think either of the half-sisters have

welp what makes you didnt think that they were brain washed by their mothers from young?
it's like the emperor and his wife and concubines
are you sure their kids didnt plotted against each other from young?

 

[Sinnedfean]

The fact that Mira is fine with the blonde sister (who is an actual rival) and her not having any remorse towards what she did to Sarah with the stalker. I don't really get why you want to redeem her tbh. I feel like people don't take the stalker studd serious it made Sarah fear for her life the only things on the level in this avn to me is Victoria's dad and Lucy's mom.

 

[Mark Loring]

welp what makes you didnt think that they were brain washed by their mothers from young?
it's like the emperor and his wife and concubines
are you sure their kids didnt plotted against each other from young?

Every founding family is messed up in one way another. Not talking about brainwashing here, although in some founding families I'm sure it's present. The statement in question is plastic surgery, and no one in the game has had it but Lily (at least that's what's been mentioned).

Brainwashing is for another reply thread. Not this one

 

[CyBeRd0g]

the only things on the level in this avn to me is Victoria's dad and Lucy's mom

To be fair the mastermind behind the plot to scare Sarah was her and Mira's father. Mira was doing what her daddy told her. I'm not saying she didn't know what she was doing, but going against Mr. Hamilton's will wouldn't be considered a smart choice in their family. And yeah, she clearly enjoyed hurting her sister, so she's evil too

 

[shitass1001]

Well, she's one of the four girls in the teaser Side Girl pics, is why I've thought of it. And she seems less mean than Blonde Half-Sis. And while the teasing's got a lot of history, I believe there was mention that she's had augmentation surgery. And while that might be a positive for some, there's still an underlying message of "You are nothing but a Sex Asset to be bartered". And she probably had under-development issues herself.

And yet, here is her younger sister who didn't get subject to the same costs, scoring the most eligible bachelor. (although she didn't know it until later).

Dont think it was ever mentioned that Mira got breast implants, even if she did it wouldnt ameliorate the years of bullying she has dished out to Sarah.

Did you name yourself "Pickle Rick"?
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It was the first name that popped into my head, you comment on that but dont mention "dog man" in the previous renders D:

welp what makes you didnt think that they were brain washed by their mothers from young?
it's like the emperor and his wife and concubines
are you sure their kids didnt plotted against each other from young?

They were 100% brain washed, or maybe influenced is a better word, by their mothers and probably father when they were young, but in a way that makes their behavior towards Sarah worse. They are taught that status is everything, and they are also a fair bit higher than Sarah who is at the bottom of the totem pole in her family, and they still bully and demean her for seemingly no reason.
This idea that Mira is actually just a victim of her situation can not work with the way that she is written, case in point: as others have mentioned she seems to be completely fine with the other sister, who should be a much larger threat than Sarah.
Also, as Sinnedfean said, her complete lack of remorse for the stalking thing, even though she wasnt the mastermind behind it she still pulled the trigger. There should still be some guilt there, but it doesn't look like there is.

on a side note, it would be nice to have a name for the blond sister.

 

[mordred93]

Dont think it was ever mentioned that Mira got breast implants, even if she did it wouldnt ameliorate the years of bullying she has dished out to Sarah.

Where did you see that bit of info? Edit: Searched Discord, saw nothing.

 

[shitass1001]

Where did you see that bit of info? Edit: Searched Discord, saw nothing.

in the post I quoted above that...

I think the original poster got Mira mixed up with Lily, and thought that Mira was the one who got breast implants, so I just corrected him

 

[Mark Loring]

in the post I quoted above that...

I think the original poster got Mira mixed up with Lily, and thought that Mira was the one who got breast implants, so I just corrected him

And I even said it earlier in the day as well, that it was Lily. I guess people don't pay attention when you correct them.

 

[DrSoong]

I guess people don't pay attention when you correct them.

Amen!

 

[Parmenion1405]

Maybe some context is needed again. I haven't read all the posts here since my last visit, but some of you seem to have a problem with the BDSM/Harem style of the game.
TBH, this is only second-hand knowledge because I do not participate in this. (regarding multiple Subs or Harem)

• BDSM, as I mentioned before, is what you make of it. Everything is possible, and nothing is a must. There are kinks you like and some you don’t. It’s okay. And the writing of this novel would be considered tame from the BDSM point of view. I have several kinks that are common in BDSM, and some subtypes I would never do. Choke play, as an example, or sub-sharing. My wife is mine and only mine—I do not share. But if the involved parties like it, go for it.

BDSM may only be four letters, but there is so much more to it than being a Dom or a Sub. It’s an acronym for at least six lifestyles:

• Bondage & Discipline
• Dominance & Submission
• Sadism & Masochism

Pick your thing or don’t. But never expect others to think the same as you do.

• Harem. Okay, it’s highly unlikely that a 19- or 20-year-old will have five or more subs that are all happy and do not fight each other. Nevertheless, I know that even in real life, a lot of Dom's have a wife (mostly the main sub, sometimes the wife isn't part of the BDSM-play) and one or maybe two other subs. Whether it is for training them or because they have this kind of polyamorous relationship. And I know of at least one case where the Dom has three subs, and the subs are allowed to be intimate with each other. So, if you go for a small stretch, the only two things in this novel that are highly fictional are first, the age of the MC (or the lack of years, if you prefer it this way) and second, the number of girls in his harem.

But it’s not uncommon for a Dom to be with more than one sub. I, personally, think one is enough, and I do not want to change that. But my wife has told me that if I wanted another sub, she would be okay with it, as long as she stays number one and maybe gets the chance to play with the second. However, perhaps I’m a smart ass or not, I am pretty sure having more subs may be adventurous and fun, but also demanding and straining in the end. And I prefer a chilled lifestyle with one female to care about. Sometimes even this isn’t as easy as I thought. But regardless of your choices, being in a relationship (BDSM or not, multiple subs or not) needs effort and passion for the relationship itself and the people involved.

Just my 2 cents. Maybe I am overthinking this, but some comments in this thread leave me baffled and irritated. Do you not know the difference between a game and real life? Or do you believe all people with kinks are some sort of perverts? I cannot comprehend some of the statements I have read here. Sorry, not sorry! But be real. There are 8 billion+ of us people on this planet. You are only one of them, and your view and opinion isn’t exclusive, and yours isn’t the only truth. Live and let live.

Thanks for watching (or something like this).

 

[Degen003]

lucy best waifu

 

[Jimskeleton]

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Hey guys!

Just a very short status update for you this time!

With everything else finished, rendering has gone very smoothly since the last dev log, and I've completed another 400 renders. That puts the total at a little over 1000 now, and means I'm comfortably on course for the mid-December release.

Speaking of the release, assuming everything goes well, I'm aiming for the 15th; so pencil that in as the tentative release date! And that's really all I have for you this time. As usual at this point, I probably won't do another dev log before the release, as I'd really just be repeating this already short message here. So unless I come across something particularly interesting to tell you all about, the next time you'll hear from me will be the release of 0.11!

As always, thank you all for your support, I truly appreciate it!

- Cosy Creator