VN Ren'Py Cosy Cafe [v0.11] [Cosy Creator]

[PaxHadrian17]

I thought this was a great update!

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I like the progression with Sara and the layers of intrigue about her stalker and his origin - why he appeared when he did.

I think Sara is a nice, complex character who is not a cookie cutter version of all the other girls - different body type and skills as well as motivation and insecurities.

I thought the family get together was nicely done and added to the world building that helps define the bigger picture and hints at some of what may happen in the future.

I am Very interested in how quickly the MC's classmates - both male and female - react to Sara's Father and his announcement that the last Fletcher is in marriage talks with him about Sara.

The final scene with Sara was especially well done and I appreciate the finesse here - how the MC respected Sara's insecurities and that she still found a way to be more intimate with him.

I also think the upcoming addition of Hanna to the staff at the cafe will be interesting.

I recognize that this will take time and likely several updates, but I am looking forward to these developments.

All in all - a great update!

Cheers!!

 

[Cosy Creator]

I already have the 17th of October. When will the public version of the new update be released

The public release is November 17th, though given the previous pattern I imagine it will leak here at least a week before that.

 

[Ass prefer]

It's probably a stupid question since the developer himself is sitting here, we won't see an early version from other people here, well, if you know what I mean

 

[Tiur]

It's probably a stupid question since the developer himself is sitting here, we won't see an early version from other people here, well, if you know what I mean

Eh, people leak stuff. Most devs who participate here understand that that's a risk they run for the exposure and awareness of their title that this site brings with it, and as long as patrons get some exclusivity time, it just mostly goes with the territory. Cosy's patrons seem to generally be pretty good about not leaking quickly, but like Cosy said, that often ends up happening at around the 3-weeks-after-patron-release point.

 

[smuk]

oh, the MC have a really big shadow

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[LGM]

This is a pretty good game. The girls are pretty awesome. The script is mostly void of mistakes. However:

Vocative commas are missing everywhere, as well as some other commas. I've seen at least one "breath" that should be "breathe, and "in to" should be "into" in some cases.

On the date with Lucy on day 15, train sounds keep playing for quite a while after arriving at the mall.

Anyway, I'll be sure to keep an eye on this one. Good job so far, dev.

 

[Deleted member 6035931]

This is a pretty good game. The girls are pretty awesome. The script is mostly void of mistakes. However:

Vocative commas are missing everywhere, as well as some other commas. I've seen at least one "breath" that should be "breathe, and "in to" should be "into" in some cases.

On the date with Lucy on day 15, train sounds keep playing for quite a while after arriving at the mall.

Anyway, I'll be sure to keep an eye on this one. Good job so far, dev.

The rules for commas became an unconquerable mess for me when I started to speak more than one language. But overall I think I spot more spelling mistakes in "renowned" newspapers these days than in cosy cafe lol.

I find the girls here awesome as well.

 

[Deleted member 6035931]

oh, the MC have a really big shadow

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its also really detailed in comparison^^

(sorry Cosy, couldn't resist^^ his dick is fine)

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[Mommysbuttslut]

The rules for commas became an unconquerable mess for me when I started to speak more than one language. But overall I think I spot more spelling mistakes in "renowned" newspapers these days than in cosy cafe lol.

I find the girls here awesome as well.

Commas are the devil when it comes to rules. Considering the oxford comma is recommended for the Oxford Style Manual but recommended against by the University of Oxford Style Guide while being used by the Oxford University Press, recommended by a number of American publishing groups and recommended against by a number of different American publishing groups, I am confident to say that so long as you understand what's being written the comma has been used correctly enough.

 

[someyoungguy]

The rules for commas became an unconquerable mess for me when I started to speak more than one language. But overall I think I spot more spelling mistakes in "renowned" newspapers these days than in cosy cafe lol.

I find the girls here awesome as well.

It's also hard because even in more formal English there are lots of places where a comma could be used grammatically, but it isn't required. With there being multiple forms of formal written English by means of the various collegiate style guides, it becomes more complicated because not only are their reference systems quite different, they have some differences in grammar preferences, too. In written colloquial English, grammatical rules for commas are largely useless, since they're primarily used to indicate pauses in speaking rather than indicate any grammatical construction. Tbh, complaining about vocative commas in a VN is really petty, since VNs are largely written colloquially and when colloquial writing is mimicking speech, most commas that aren't breaks in speech pace are largely unused.

I'm kinda curious how foreign language confused your comma usage. The languages I studied either used no commas at all or used commas only when mimicking eurocentric writing styles. A lot of non-European languages replace most or all of the grammatical function of a comma with a number of grammatical word modifiers

 

[Draugo]

I'm kinda curious how foreign language confused your comma usage. The languages I studied either used no commas at all or used commas only when mimicking eurocentric writing styles. A lot of non-European languages replace most or all of the grammatical function of a comma with a number of grammatical word modifiers

I don't know about breathing dawn but I speak Finnish natively in addition to English and the comma rules are just different enough that it makes everything difficult. Not to mention the amount of compound words Finnish uses compared to English makes me want to compound English words even when I know I shouldn't. Also the fact that Finnish has completely free word order trips things up on occasion.

 

[Deleted member 6035931]

Commas are the devil when it comes to rules. Considering the oxford comma is recommended for the Oxford Style Manual but recommended against by the University of Oxford Style Guide while being used by the Oxford University Press, recommended by a number of American publishing groups and recommended against by a number of different American publishing groups, I am confident to say that so long as you understand what's being written the comma has been used correctly enough.

It's also hard because even in more formal English there are lots of places where a comma could be used grammatically, but it isn't required. With there being multiple forms of formal written English by means of the various collegiate style guides, it becomes more complicated because not only are their reference systems quite different, they have some differences in grammar preferences, too. In written colloquial English, grammatical rules for commas are largely useless, since they're primarily used to indicate pauses in speaking rather than indicate any grammatical construction. Tbh, complaining about vocative commas in a VN is really petty, since VNs are largely written colloquially and when colloquial writing is mimicking speech, most commas that aren't breaks in speech pace are largely unused.

Yeah, by now I just use my own comma rules. Which change a lot. ^^

Wholeheartedly agree with both of you.

 

[Deleted member 6035931]

I'm kinda curious how foreign language confused your comma usage. The languages I studied either used no commas at all or used commas only when mimicking eurocentric writing styles. A lot of non-European languages replace most or all of the grammatical function of a comma with a number of grammatical word modifiers

Don't wanna doxx myself even to that degree, but I spent time around languages that use commas and around languages that dont. I'm not knowledgable enough to say what is preferable, though.
If you know two languages that use commas you would have to remember for every single comma rule if it was for this or that language. If you know three its getting even worse lol. It becomes one huge mixed mess.
But one of the languages that does use commas is a huge mess even without considering commas lol.

night, knight

light, light



In another language you need to write half a novel to get a short meaning across.

I think there was a club or society around 1900 that created their own new language from scratch, cant remember the name though.

 

[Cosy Creator]

Cosy Creator I would like to support you but I can only do so through subscribestar.

Just letting anyone that was interested know, I now have one:

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[PaxHadrian17]

Just letting anyone that was interested know, I now have one:

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Would you prefer that we support you on Patreon or on SubscribeStar (SS)?

I'm asking because sometimes, the Patreon PC police do sweeps and devs get in trouble because of uneven enforcement of their 'rules.'

I switched all my support to SS where I had the option so I could try to avoid this issue for creators I support.

I'm currently supporting you on Patreon but will switch based on your preference.

Cheers!!

 

[Dragon59]

Thanks for the info. Not sure though what changes if some people call it a kink.

For one thing, we're no longer in the 1950s, so some people try to create their own Pleasantville cosplay.

The whole BDSM thing is ridiculous to me. Its basically women wanting an archaic man in bed but also want to wear the pants outside of it. Thats all it is at its core. Men think they are a dom chad because their women allow them to be a dom chad in bed - its ridiculous. Its behaviour almost reminiscent of an obedient dog. Don't get it. If you enjoy being dominant why drop it outside the bedroom. And if you don't drop it outside the bedroom why not stop calling it kinks/BDSM and just call it a normal marriage/relationship. If you enjoy whips just do it - or get a horse lol. All this acting and pretending just kills it.

I mean its probably better than nothing, but I don't get why people flex about it. Being a whipped husband/boyfriend is the most common thing ever these days.

All I can say is that your understanding of modern kink is very limited. Personally, I know a few men who are switches, but I can't say I know any men who are truly submissive.

 

[Dragon59]

Fun fact:

Did you know incels don't exist?

Tell that to the incel group that attacked the founder of the group when he admitted that he was in a relationships.

Self-identified incels definitely exist.

Btw: Do you have more empathy with incels or prostitutes, someyoungguy?

I know I'm not someyoungguy, but I have a lot of respect for sex workers of various types. I have a number of friends who are or have been sex workers.

 

[Dragon59]

Yeah I get what you're saying with the scenes, that could be it.

As for the MC's face, I lean towards keeping it hidden, but if it would require me to fundamentally change a scene to make that happen then I don't mind brief shots of it. I guess seeing glimpses of it just doesn't register as being jarring to me because I see it constantly while I'm posing scenes.

That is your prerogative. I won't reject a story because it is POV/hidden face. For me, I'll probably steer clear of them in my own projects. I prefer making stories that look more like movies. I feel it will also cut down on extreme self-insertion as well.

Just letting anyone that was interested know, I now have one:

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Great! Once I have my finances above water, I'll support you there. Currently waiting for my Social Security (Govt. Pension) to kick in.

 

[Cosy Creator]

Would you prefer that we support you on Patreon or on SubscribeStar (SS)?

I'm asking because sometimes, the Patreon PC police do sweeps and devs get in trouble because of uneven enforcement of their 'rules.'

I switched all my support to SS where I had the option so I could try to avoid this issue for creators I support.

I'm currently supporting you on Patreon but will switch based on your preference.

Cheers!!

I plan on treating both platforms the same, so mostly it's down to whichever you prefer. Having said that, I imagine patreon will always be the bigger of the two for me, so having as many of you as want to on SS is probably wise, for the reasons you say.

 

[Deleted member 6035931]

I have a lot of respect for sex workers of various types.

Unless they would otherwise starve or freeze to death - I don't. Its the seemingly easy way to make comparably quick cash, but they sell their mind and future and are usually miserable when older. If a woman decides to not sell herself but chooses a seemingly harder path and keeps her dignity, she did herself and the whole universe a favour in the long run. Being virtuous in the face of hardship is respectable. Giving your cooch to the world for money and/or attention is not. But we can still have compassion. Also: RIP to all the fathers and sons.