Others Crisis Point: Extinction [v0.48.1] [Anon42]

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It can never be the gold standard unless it has elements of sex on defeat as well as sex as part of the gameplay loop/plot so that people with kinks on both sides can enjoy the game.

To say a game that very abruptly did away with one for the other is the 'gold standard' would imply that one way is the best way. That's not true, and I'd certainly never call a game in development this long while collecting patreon funds all the while with a development that rocky a 'golden standard' myself.
The combat, art style, exploration, and lewd mechanics in this game work for me so I want more games to be like this (but you know, finished). Unless you're talking about actual gold and aren't being pedantic the "Gold Standard" is just a glorified opinion, it's figurative, it's what someone wants to see more of, or what they judge other things by otherwise.

The "Gold Standard" based on your own logic would be a video game with literally every mechanic, catering to literally every possible player otherwise someone would be left out. To me that's silly and to me any game that makes you lose progress so you can get a sex animation is antithetical to the idea of video games. Organically adding sex to the exploration and enemy behaviour is better. For example Cosmobreeder Yiffai. It's a good Metroidvania, it has defeat and victory sex if you're into that so give it a look, but it has NES style hitstun (that you can turn off with a cheat) and exploits it very often. I like the game and I did buy the full version on Steam to support it but I don't really want more games to take that approach, or rather I'm a lot less inclined to play them. My options right now are Kincaid and this game, both of which have much smoother and nicer combat and art styles, and unfortunately are coming in and out of limbo. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

A game with this level of polish, development cycle aside, is up there for me that's all it is. It has taken a literal decade which doesn't give me much hope but that's another "it is what it is". That's the nice thing about opinions though, everyone has one. At the end of the day I'm the one throwing $10 a month into a bucket (for the next few months at least) gambling that it'll get finished one day, that's all crowdfunding is.

If you have suggestions for Lewdvanias with this kind of look and polished platforming and boss/area design I'd love to see it. I'm not being facetious. If you have a list throw it at me.

Acknowledging my being longwinded doesn't make it less annoying but I realise I just wrote that much for basically no reason.
 
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Honestly kinda pissed off at the lack of anything for 0.48. Another rework? Really? Wasn't that stupid ass "Great Rework" supposed to be the end of that?
You don't get it man the game CLEARLY needed a whole ass rewrite of the story
why well uhhh oh look over here *jiggling keys*
seriously now there's SURELY no way someone is buying this cheap excuse "oh look guys we release 0.48" there's LITERALLY NO CONTENT when you actually look at it
 

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Wow 9 years in development that just shows how sad some people are that he has gotten money this long. He's reaching Duke Nukem levels here.
 
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Wow 9 years in development that just shows how sad some people are that he has gotten money this long. He's reaching Duke Nukem levels here.
At least with duke nukem forever there was an end product (despite basically being a game with ripped down ideas from the last 5 years of it's development) and despite being buggy... IT WAS STILL A GAME not a good one but it was a game nontheless
 

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You don't get it man the game CLEARLY needed a whole ass rewrite of the story
why well uhhh oh look over here *jiggling keys*
seriously now there's SURELY no way someone is buying this cheap excuse "oh look guys we release 0.48" there's LITERALLY NO CONTENT when you actually look at it
Yeah the story needed a rewrite sooo badly. As all gamers do, I play porn games for the story and character development, not the gameplay or the sexual content. Really wanna find out more about this planet, it's inhabitants and the characters on it instead of finishing the remaining part of the game and then, only then work on some reworks. I LOVE empty updates that deliver more "skip cutscene" moments!!! And one sexual scene between the only two side characters I could give less than a damn about! Absolute peak. What, you want actual gameplay and content? Nonono, that's not how we operate for... what, a decade?

I mean, what a silly idea - finishing a game! Ahahahaha.




No, but seriously, what is this, Yandere Simulator? Pizza Hot? Why is every other western porn game a Yandere Simulator situation?
 

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Sorry I don't know how to break the quote up into parts like you did so another wall of text to hopefully reach those who are still supporting / curious.

The truth hurts and weak frames of mind take facts as insult. Paying any kind of money to support a project that doesn't deliver an actual product is stupid. It is the literal definition of scam "a dishonest scheme; a fraud."

I didn't say cancel your subscription to motivate him, I said to just cancel it. If you're not getting what you want for your money then don't waste your money. A byproduct would be the developer changing what they're doing to be in line with what people are actually paying for or simply kill the project.

You even say the features he's working on you don't care for but what you're wrong about is the time it takes to make them. "Several months of work" is a ridiculous stretch seeing has every recolor voted on is literally on Patreon already completed for the polling (not coded into the game just the sprite). Complaining will help, it is how businesses work. If a consumer doesn't like a product and never complain the product will not change. It's not rude to say something is taking a long time if it's true, this is taking too long. The intial release of Stardew Valley was developed by in large by a single person and was completed in 4.5 years.

Comparisons between a small team of developers (or just 1? pretty sure Anon42 has had help but just an assumption) to Google, Amazon, and Walmart are ridiculous exaggerations.

The average person can do software development. Welcome to the world of Google and YouTube. If anyone wants to learn and create, they can.

Yes I understand Anon doesn't actually pocket the exact subscribtion amount. This still doesn't change the fact it is still above average. A single income household in the US brings in on average just over $63,000/year. Stop making wild comparisons to large businesses as they are completely irrelevant. The average income of a video game developer is $60,000-$150,000/year with the middle and higher end all being at AAA studios or as senior developers and the like. You're right, making money off of porn games is hard, it was still the choice made and as a result has made way more money off of that choice then it deserves. Especially since the lack of porn in the porn game has been evident in the last several years.

Anon42 did not work for free for years, the Patreon has been up since 2014. But you are right, he SHOULD make an actual no shit side scroller game for steam. All I want is more porn in the porn game or for it to just be over with. Don't get me wrong, I would much more enjoy this project to succeed and have more amazing pixel animations but if that doesn't happen well just end it. Go develop that amazing steam game and be successful because it's already a decent Metroidvania. Also every game ever to exist gets pirated, don't assume this is a special case. The game is at v0.48 after over 10 years, a long way away from v1 when a developer usually gets paid for a product. Instead he's making an above average yearly income simply off of the development of the game for several years.

I don't know if there is a way to see a chart of subscribers over time unless it's your account. So this is just going to be a wild assumption with no backing facts but if he made $2,000/month since his Patreon started that's over a quarter of a million dollars total. Think about that, over $250,000 for this game he has made. This is no small figure for a game not even close to completion.
 

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Also some other comparisons.

Fullfrap (small team) has made 4 full games; Vosmug (solo dev) has made 3 games; Dieselmine (which is a larger developer team but I'm strictly looking at the pixel games) has made at least 6 off the top of my head.

All of this was done in the same amount of time as this one game has been in development. So don't say things like he needs time because life problems, we all have those. Even these few examples show it's possible with breaks and delays. The only problem is they had a goal, and I don't think Anon42 has one. Either the passion has burnt out, lost focus, no solid roadmap, or the logical option, milking morons for money.
 

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Okay so, what are the revamped animations and how do you get debug mode? Since im assuming there's not much left to explore as my last save had everything. Contemplating starting a new one for the story remake...(wait, do you HAVE to in order to get that duo blow job cg bruh, cause i also see a new unmarked area, but no way to get to it)
 
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Okay so, what are the revamped animations and how do you get debug mode? Since im assuming there's not much left to explore as my last save had everything. Contemplating starting a new one for the story remake...(wait, do you HAVE to in order to get that duo blow job cg bruh, cause i also see a new unmarked area, but no way to get to it)
For the debug you gotta get to the end of the demo where there is a crate and a note and use it, then you unlock the debug

Note: As for the unmarked areas they can be difficult to figure out sometimes but it is possible just need certain unlockable items is all
 

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Okay well...it looks like I actually HAVE to replay it. I accidentally overwrite my fucking save man. That got me annoyed...I've replayed this game twice before. Even if I really like it
For the debug you gotta get to the end of the demo where there is a crate and a note and use it, then you unlock the debug

Note: As for the unmarked areas they can be difficult to figure out sometimes but it is possible just need certain unlockable items is all
I also was in the subaquatic area but couldn't see any crate? Is it there? Or like back in the base. Cause I had all the hidden areas unlocked aside from one in the center around there, which honestly no idea how to get that.
 

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Paying any kind of money to support a project that doesn't deliver an actual product is stupid. It is the literal definition of scam "a dishonest scheme; a fraud."
It does deliver an actual product. The game is perfectly playable.

The "bugfixes" and recolor system are meaningless to you, doesn't mean they didn't require a ton of work.

you're wrong about is the time it takes to make them. "Several months of work" is a ridiculous stretch seeing has every recolor voted on is literally on Patreon already completed for the polling (not coded into the game just the sprite).
Yes and that "not coded into the game" part is what takes several months of work, dude. Rendering colored variants of animations in-game is a vastly different problem from just drawing a single sprite with Paint. Genuine question: do you think you can just drop 1 frame of a sprite in Unreal Engine and then it will animate it and code it in the game for you? Seriously, try to code a game, we're all waiting for it, and you can make an easy 6000$/month. (Spoiler alert: there's 100% chance you'll fail and make in fact 0$/month).



Comparisons between a small team of developers (or just 1? pretty sure Anon42 has had help but just an assumption) to Google, Amazon, and Walmart are ridiculous exaggerations.
I worked for a company like Google and imo the work there is less intense than developing a video game or even the mods I do on f95. My manager was basically only asking me about my well-being and never about the actual rate of work, I could spend weeks without doing anything productive, we had all kinds of entertainment facilities at work. And I was making much, much more than 3000-4000$/ month.

The average person can do software development. Welcome to the world of Google and YouTube. If anyone wants to learn and create, they can.
No they can't and that's exactly why the market pays them 5x more than the average household. Well I mean you can certainly watch a Youtube video and write some seemingly-functional code, maybe even a basic demo for a game and you'll feel super excited, but then what will happen is after a few weeks suddenly everything breaks and you'll never be able to fix it, because you have 0 profound understanding of anything that you wrote. And now your company will have to hire an actual software developer to debug it for you, that developer will then look at your code and scrap every single line in the trash, then restart from scratch. But feel free to prove me wrong and try it, go learn and think of how you would make a sprite recolor system in CPE, you can even implement it, the game is super easy to mod.


Yes I understand Anon doesn't actually pocket the exact subscribtion amount. This still doesn't change the fact it is still above average. A single income household in the US brings in on average just over $63,000/year. Stop making wild comparisons to large businesses as they are completely irrelevant. The average income of a video game developer is $60,000-$150,000/year with the middle and higher end all being at AAA studios or as senior developers and the like. You're right, making money off of porn games is hard, it was still the choice made and as a result has made way more money off of that choice then it deserves. Especially since the lack of porn in the porn game has been evident in the last several years.
You're comparing the final taxed income of an average person with an IQ of 80 vs. the gross revenue of a freelancer who has a skill that only 5% of people can do and wrote a game played by possibly millions of people, and somehow still end up proving my point (that the amount he makes is at the bottom of the market).

I don't know if there is a way to see a chart of subscribers over time unless it's your account. So this is just going to be a wild assumption with no backing facts but if he made $2,000/month since his Patreon started that's over a quarter of a million dollars total. Think about that, over $250,000 for this game he has made. This is no small figure for a game not even close to completion.
250,000$ for 10 years so 25,000$/year of gross revenue then 15 000$ / year of real income (you're omitting taxes again for the 3rd time in a row), which would be ridiculously low so not sure what's the point you're making. You just said yourself a game dev makes 60k + minimum (that's for a junior dev btw ie. somebody who's just hired to get trained and won't get in charge of any real product).

Fullfrap (small team) has made 4 full games; Vosmug (solo dev) has made 3 games; Dieselmine (which is a larger developer team but I'm strictly looking at the pixel games) has made at least 6 off the top of my head.
Most of their games are rated <4 while CPE is 4.5 so seems like a quality over quantity thing. I did play Fullfrap games and sorry but they are boring as hell, never finished one. Vosmug's games are better but not to the level of CPE imo.

Also something you need to realize is that these games you mention spend 80% of their effort on H-animations while CPE spends 80% of its work on all these side-mechanics like grapple, swimming, exotic weapons which I agree shouldn't be the focus in an H-game but over 10 years the accumulation of details like this is maybe what makes the game feel different.
 
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Most of their games are rated <4 while CPE is 4.5 so seems like a quality over quantity thing.
Yeah that's because people usually rate stuff like this based on "potential", not what's actually there.

I tried playing this game for a few minutes since it's been probably five or so years since the last time I've even seen gameplay and I encountered at least one bug and several polish issues.

-Menus don't really work with gamepad all that well, most notably the skill menu. I had to use the mouse to navigate and assign my first point.
-Gamepad button prompts don't show up correctly.
-For some reason you're not allowed to speed through and just read dialogue and are forced to either skip it entirely or listen to the "okay at best" voice acting.
-After rescuing the doctor some dialogue came up about the thorn weeds and I stopped to let it play... and it just kinda hung up, never went anywhere, and I had to close the game to make the box go away.

If this game had only been in development for 1-2 years or so, these little things would be excusable. It's been in development for (almost) 10. You can call FullFrap and Vosmug's games boring all you want and make shitty appeals to popular opinion but at least they're capable of actually finishing something that more or less functions as intended.
 

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I can afford to pay Anon42 5$/month even if he creates 1 H-scene/year. If you can't afford it because 5$ is a lot for you and you have to work hard for it, then yes, just cancel your sub and pirate it. I'm happy to pay the 5$ myself so you don't have to, I respect everybody who works. However let's not call others who have the means to spend this 5$ / month "absurd" or "stupid" please man, we're literally allowing you to play it. There are a lot of scam games, and this one is very, very far from one. Slow maybe. Scam definitely not.

Cancelling subscription will do the opposite of what your hope for : imagine your boss saying "My employees are not working fast enough, so let's try to stop paying them for a few months in order to motivate them to work more" - the dev will just look for another regular IT job instead, then realize he earns more than 6500$/month, and never come back to NSFW gaming again.
It's definitely not how "only money motivation" works. Usually money paid for some specific ENDED work. Imagine some not-liking-his-work-man's boss saying: "you may sit in your house playing videogames, drinking wine, doing anything you want all the time and you still will get your salary, exactly the same amount as now." And what this man will do? Will work 24/7? It's nonsense.

The problem is in subscribe scheme. In cases like this you ARE NOT PAYING FOR THE GAME or it's development, You ARE JUST PAYING.
 

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The problem is in subscribe scheme. In cases like this you ARE NOT PAYING FOR THE GAME or it's development, You ARE JUST PAYING.
That's just crowdfunding in general.
You're throwing money into a bucket and gambling it'll be finished or progress at all.
I supported Third Crisis since 2018, dropped them for a bit, and got back on them.
One of my favourite porn games, and now there's a sequel on the way.

-Menus don't really work with gamepad all that well, most notably the skill menu. I had to use the mouse to navigate and assign my first point.
-Gamepad button prompts don't show up correctly.
This part at least I think I can help with. Depending on your controller some engines are a bitch to get to cooperate, I use a Dualsense (PS5) controller and (usually with indies) about half the games I play don't recognise my controller or only do so if I have it turned on and then open the game. This mostly happens with itch.io, GoG and dlsite games so basically standalone executables.

I've sidelined this by adding the game's executable to Steam, that basically guarantees either it works out of the box or Steam Input takes over so the controls work. Steam won't check what you add there, so if you have cracked games it won't care unless it wasn't cracked properly. You could also use DS4Windows. It's not a perfect solution but it works.
 
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It's definitely not how "only money motivation" works. Usually money paid for some specific ENDED work. Imagine some not-liking-his-work-man's boss saying: "you may sit in your house playing videogames, drinking wine, doing anything you want all the time and you still will get your salary, exactly the same amount as now." And what this man will do? Will work 24/7? It's nonsense.

The problem is in subscribe scheme. In cases like this you ARE NOT PAYING FOR THE GAME or it's development, You ARE JUST PAYING.
Are you being held at gunpoint and forced to subscribe?
If so, then i'd might be able understand why you're frustrated with it, otherwise:
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