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ChesseKun

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Not Bad, I just wish it wouldn't constantly cock block me. Like when you go to the club with Vicky and Jules, but you only get to watch because the join option is greyed out. Or becoming a whore at the club, I wish it at least showed what is blocking you.
 

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Not Bad, I just wish it wouldn't constantly cock block me. Like when you go to the club with Vicky and Jules, but you only get to watch because the join option is greyed out. Or becoming a whore at the club, I wish it at least showed what is blocking you.
Emily needs to be sufficiently drunk and horny:
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            "Offer to participate" (sensitive =(lust >=2 and drunk >=1), condition = True):
To raise lust pick "Play along with Jules" and "I don't know... I just want to have fun right now" when interacting with him.

Or becoming a whore at the club, I wish it at least showed what is blocking you.
If you mean becoming VIP hostess, that's based on Emily's karma.
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        "Agreeing to be a VIP hostess" (sensitive=(karma<4 or is_replay), contition = True):
Generally it's not rocket science -- Emily won't be open to adventurous options if you play her as very straight-laced "nice girl" who isn't willing to take risks. In some situations being drunk and/or high helps her to shrug off inhibitions, but not always.
 
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vigil deal route, how?
You mean Bob? Shoplift twice to get caught, then:
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        "Accept the deal" (sensitive=(karma<0 and slut>4 or submission>5), condition = True):
Negative karma and either high submission or promiscuity. The "slut" variable is hidden and it'd be probably better if it was included in the phone screen, but it's generally raised by taking explicitly sexual options (sucking off Gus and admitting Emily likes it, taking off clothes to seduce Liam, registering as sugarbaby, etc)
 

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You mean Bob? Shoplift twice to get caught, then:
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        "Accept the deal" (sensitive=(karma<0 and slut>4 or submission>5), condition = True):
Negative karma and either high submission or promiscuity. The "slut" variable is hidden and it'd be probably better if it was included in the phone screen, but it's generally raised by taking explicitly sexual options (sucking off Gus and admitting Emily likes it, taking off clothes to seduce Liam, registering as sugarbaby, etc)
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Actually, looking at that VIP hostess code now, there may be a bug in there:
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        "Agreeing to be a VIP hostess" (sensitive=(karma<4), contition = True):
//...
        "Agreeing to be a VIP hostess" (sensitive=(karma<4 or is_replay), contition = True):
It has a typo in both cases: "contition" instead of "condition" and i didn't check the script, but it might produce some sort of impossible to pass check as a result? Possibly better to fix it in any case.

Thanks for your feedback, I've corrected all the points you raised. It was very clear and very accurate.
I don't know how you managed to spot that without knowing the game inside out ^^
I don't have time/willpower to make multiple play throughs for games, so i usually just peek at the script as i go, to see what the alternative scenarios are. It has a side-effect of spotting the bugs easier. :sneaky:

(also lacking time/willpower for any discord presence, sorry about that :x
 

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since the title is crossing the lines but our FMC doesnt cross anything since they are all not biologically related......can i just say im confused about how the story is going?
so far ive found out,
dad is our professors bitch, little sis is a sugar baby and makes more money than anyone in the family, mom is an ex-whore who is being blackmailed to get back to whoring herself and is also fucking our brother, our brother is a mother fucker who is cucking the dad while throwing the whole family into borderline bankruptcy.
so far there is no way to get with either of the parents(as far as ive found out), have a few with little sis(not to my taste) and our brother fucks our bff.
there is some shady gang stuff and prostitution and stuff involved but it is throwing me off....
just confused on where the story is progressing since normally routes will go along with the story but right now i dont see how they are all going to mesh together......
 

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mom is an ex-whore who is being blackmailed to get back to whoring herself
Small correction, Isabelle supposedly never gone as far as actual sex with the clients. As for dad, we don't know at this point what his relationship with the professor is.

Regarding "crossing lines", those can be different things for different people and none of it really incest-related. Prostitution, drug dealing, substance abuse, theft, cheating on your romantic partner, fixing your school performance through sexual favors, nude modelling (and possibly more down the road) etc and so on. Those are all things one isn't supposed to be doing, so actually getting involved in them is all "crossing (some) lines".
 
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Small correction, Isabelle supposedly never gone as far as actual sex with the clients. As for dad, we don't know at this point what his relationship with the professor is.

Regarding "crossing lines", those can be different things for different people and none of it really incest-related. Prostitution, drug dealing, substance abuse, theft, cheating on your romantic partner, fixing your school performance through sexual favors, nude modelling (and possibly more down the road) etc and so on. Those are all things one isn't supposed to be doing, so actually getting involved in them is all "crossing (some) lines".
no way that gus and the guests supposedly not do anything to the mom....the VIP room is exactly that, i mean our mc had to blow the guy just to get in, highly doubt shes coming out of there without doing anything else....

the professor is literally a dominatrix, pretty sure that place is some sort of sex dungeon thats why the thug is there, i can almost feel it happening....

im pretty sure all that you just said are illegal activities of sort that is against the law(at least where im from, all those examples you gave are illegal), its more of crossing the fence....incest isnt really illegal, its more of a moral and ethical issue, hence crossing the lines.
nude modeling is nothing more than a job, nobody really cares if their nudes are online as long as they are paid for it......look at only fans, thats exactly it.
 

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From my point of view, the line is a fine line that everyone can choose to cross or not. Everyone has their own lines to cross or not. For me, criminal activities (drugs, prostitution, etc.) are one line. Similarly, cheating, submission, and exceeding one's sexual limits are another.

The title does not say that Emily MUST cross lines, it says that she can. But if a player decides to make Emily wise and studious, my job as a writer is to reward them in the same way.

The story does not lead you anywhere, it is written in a fan shape to allow everyone to chart their own course towards the Emily of their choice.

However, you will have noticed that I have not allowed explicit incest (by clearly separating family ties). Firstly, this would cause me problems with the financing of the game. Some platforms (such as Steam) do not tolerate this very well, even for a game. And secondly, I think that as it stands, if you want to see incest, you can already imagine it quite easily.

Not all narrative branches will overlap. Some will permanently close others. This is also where the concept of choice and consequences comes into play.
 

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no way that gus and the guests supposedly not do anything to the mom....the VIP room is exactly that, i mean our mc had to blow the guy just to get in, highly doubt shes coming out of there without doing anything else....
This is what Isabelle tells Emily. Could she be lying? Maybe. But maybe it's just skill issue and Isabelle was much better at just teasing guys and leaving them hanging and spending money to try to get something out of her.

the professor is literally a dominatrix, pretty sure that place is some sort of sex dungeon thats why the thug is there, i can almost feel it happening....
I suspect it's more of a place for swingers with BDSM twist. But it doesn't necessarily mean that it's the nature of relationship between these two. Maybe dad has found some dom inclinations in him too, or wants to become firmer in handling people (given the trouble he's own son is giving him) and the professor is giving him lessons there, with other guests as subjects.
 
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This is what Isabelle tells Emily. Could she be lying? Maybe. But maybe it's just skill issue and Isabelle was much better at just teasing guys and leaving them hanging and spending money to try to get something out of her.


I suspect it's more of a place for swingers with BDSM twist. But it doesn't necessarily mean that it's the nature of relationship between these two. Maybe dad has found some dom inclinations in him too, or wants to become firmer in handling people (given the trouble he's own son is giving him) and the professor is giving him lessons there, with other guests as subjects.
the guy literally has physical evidence to blackmail her though.....and he even said he was with her....if nothing really happened, she would definitely go back to working for him for easy money.

i highly doubt the professor who would go around fucking her students for A's would be nice enough to help a struggling man to get more assertive...im not surprised if he is getting pegged along with other guys as well....

i could also be wrong since im not the dev but its hard to say otherwise when thats how the story is going.....
 

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the guy literally has physical evidence to blackmail her though.....and he even said he was with her....if nothing really happened, she would definitely go back to working for him for easy money.
He's got evidence that she had worked at the club as a hostess. It's incriminating enough of a thing to put strain on the marriage; he doesn't need any actual porn of her for her husband to presume/suspect this is what she was doing there, no matter how much she claims otherwise. Pretty much the same way you're making this presumption here. :sneaky:

Also, you seriously think Marcus would be happy with the idea that his wife is cozying up with other men for money at a shady club where things can easily escalate into fucking, that he wouldn't mind her getting back to that work?

i highly doubt the professor who would go around fucking her students for A's would be nice enough to help a struggling man to get more assertive...
It's not about being nice. Getting to share your lifestyle with someone, especially if it's something you can't talk about in the open, can be very much self-serving. As can be playing mentor. Also, "this is this and that is that". Fucking your students doesn't mean you can't be a charming individual with people your own age.

Of course, it's entirely possible it is me being wrong here, but the way we saw those two (briefly) interact didn't really make it seem like there was some dom/sub thing going between them.
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        et "Marcus?!?"
        n "He was standing on the sidewalk, speaking animatedly with a woman... no, laughing. Emily’s stomach tightened when she recognized the other figure."
        et "...Mrs. Harris?!?"
        n "They seemed familiar. Too familiar. Marcus leaned closer to her as she touched his arm, smiling."
It feels more like peers flirting, than anything else. Given they're of similar age, they could be old friends from college or whatever. But guess we'll see.
 
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He's got evidence that she had worked at the club as a hostess. It's incriminating enough of a thing to put strain on the marriage; he doesn't need any actual porn of her for her husband to presume/suspect this is what she was doing there, no matter how much she claims otherwise. Pretty much the same way you're making this presumption here. :sneaky:

Also, you seriously think Marcus would be happy with the idea that his wife is cozying up with other men for money at a shady club where things can easily escalate into fucking, that he wouldn't mind her getting back to that work?


It's not about being nice. Getting to share your lifestyle with someone, especially if it's something you can't talk about in the open, can be very much self-serving. As can be playing mentor. Also, "this is this and that is that". Fucking your students doesn't mean you can't be a charming individual with people your own age.

Of course, it's entirely possible it is me being wrong here, but the way we saw those two (briefly) interact didn't really make it seem like there was some dom/sub thing going between them.
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        et "Marcus?!?"
        n "He was standing on the sidewalk, speaking animatedly with a woman... no, laughing. Emily’s stomach tightened when she recognized the other figure."
        et "...Mrs. Harris?!?"
        n "They seemed familiar. Too familiar. Marcus leaned closer to her as she touched his arm, smiling."
It feels more like peers flirting, than anything else. Given they're of similar age, they could be old friends from college or whatever. But guess we'll see.
they are desperate, i dont really think marcus has the choice to say no, he literally got more money than everyone put together from his youngest daughter and didnt even bother questioning how she could have saved up that much.....

he was too close to someone of similar age of the opposite gender in an adult game.....i dont think think anymore evidence is needed to prove that something is up and it definitely isnt a wholesome mentorship especially when everyone in the family is involved in some form of sexual deviancy....
 

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he was too close to someone of similar age of the opposite gender in an adult game.....i dont think think anymore evidence is needed to prove that something is up and it definitely isnt a wholesome mentorship especially when everyone in the family is involved in some form of sexual deviancy....
I don't think that visiting together what's potentially BDSM club to "learn ropes" how to play sexual slave games, all that behind your wife's back, is something i'd describe as "wholesome" and it also fits the themes of widespread sexual deviancy just fine. I just don't think this is about "Marcus being the professor's bitch" as you put it. There's also the fact Marcus mentions having additional expenses, which aligns more with him buying something (sexual services?) than providing any himself.

On meta level, there's also a fact that Marcus being submissive would make things somewhat repetitive, considering you also have Faith serving a sugar daddy and Isabelle potentially providing services at the club. So i'd hope for a little more variety than that.
 

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I don't think that visiting together what's potentially BDSM club to "learn ropes" how to play sexual slave games, all that behind your wife's back, is something i'd describe as "wholesome" and it also fits the themes of widespread sexual deviancy just fine. I just don't think this is about "Marcus being the professor's bitch" as you put it. There's also the fact Marcus mentions having additional expenses, which aligns more with him buying something (sexual services?) than providing any himself.

On meta level, there's also a fact that Marcus being submissive would make things somewhat repetitive, considering you also have Faith serving a sugar daddy and Isabelle potentially providing services at the club. So i'd hope for a little more variety than that.
i guess we will just have to wait and see...at the end of the day, dev will be giving us our answer.....

your right that the theme would be repetitive but you have to admit that it is working....
 

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your right that the theme would be repetitive but you have to admit that it is working....
On some level yes, that's true.

If Marcus really is the professor's sub, then one potentially interesting aspect of such setup would be Emily also being under the professor's thumb. Who knows, maybe the teacher is deviant enough she'd want to see her subs play together. :sneaky:
 
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I haven't finished writing this event yet (and I'm only at the beginning).
I'm not going to make Marcus submissive; I don't think it's necessary for the story.

I still don't know how this event will end, and I must say that your discussions are interesting. When I write the game, I have all the possible paths in mind. It's not easy for me to know what you see or don't see in a single playthrough. Which events are very rare and which are very common?

I have all the “Emilys” in the game in my head, in a way (and sometimes I spend a lot of time/too much time on events or dialogues that are very difficult to acces). So when I read your comments, it also helps me understand how you read my dialogues and how you interpret them.

Thank you :)
 

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I've always liked games that have enough different characters , events and roles that you can then logically connect to create your own internal story.

For example, working in a nightclub connects very well with Connor's path, Sugarbaby with Faith, VIP Hostess with Isabelle, and Modeling with Vicki.

I'll just add that if we're going all in on various forms of sex work—a stripper in a nightclub, a prostitute for online offers or in a brothel—I wouldn't mind if the Model path could eventually turn into a fully realized Pornstar role, in good sync with Vicki's path. All it takes is one shady producer with good manipulation skills, and voila.

It's always good to have every possible dirty fantasy to realize, increasing replayability, which, in my opinion, is already one of this game's greatest strengths.
 
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