Unity Cumrooms [v0.8.0-pre3] [Moon Loom Studio]

[DocRipper]

That's strange. Currently, the game is being sold for money on Steam, and it has paid Patreon subscribers. For them, the developer releasing the game here for free would be a slap in the face. Why would the developer publish it for free on some random forum unless they added some not good stuff to the code? -_-

I don't know why, but I find most paid Steam adult NSFW games here for free. This is, I think the most popular NSFW game forum besides ***********. While I don't care to check the developer's honesty they could have added not good stuff like a backdoor, so I can't answer your question as to why they would do what they do
Why, when I post this, it shows stars?

Actually, it's quite a funny situation. Paid build for free directly from the developer is suspicious, but pirated cracked copies from unknown users are OK. Maybe Micinka should post it somewhere else, so we can steal it.

Maybe we're thinking too negatively? The dev just wants to make a nice gesture,gain trust and prove that the malware stories are just fiction? Maybe the controversy has gone beyond F95 and negatively affect him, who knows.
After all, the fact that Micinka decided to be active here and financially supported F95 suggests that he's trying to improve dev and game image.
On the other hand, it's true that this is a dangerous move, patrons and Steam buyers won't like it...

 

[DenseFool]

On the other hand, it's true that this is a dangerous move, patrons and Steam buyers won't like it...

It's always a choice to support the developer by purchasing the game instead of pirating it, If they are hypothetically upset about it being shared here, Why buy the game at all in the first place instead of pirating it? It's silly to have bought the game if they really do care about that lol

 

[VicroriDz]

Actually, it's quite a funny situation. Paid build for free directly from the developer is suspicious, but pirated cracked copies from unknown users are OK. Maybe Micinka should post it somewhere else, so we can steal it.

Maybe we're thinking too negatively? The dev just wants to make a nice gesture,gain trust and prove that the malware stories are just fiction? Maybe the controversy has gone beyond F95 and negatively affect him, who knows.
After all, the fact that Micinka decided to be active here and financially supported F95 suggests that he's trying to improve dev and game image.
On the other hand, it's true that this is a dangerous move, patrons and Steam buyers won't like it...

Listen... When an unknown person uploads a hacked version, their motivation is easier to understand. It could be either a desire to harm the developer, to make the game accessible to a wider audience, to test their hacking skills, to add the game to their pirate site's collection and profit from the traffic, or something else... Of course, it might also be an attempt to directly steal user data by embedding malware in the code, but that’s riskier—it gets exposed quickly. In the early downloads, only risk-taking users or those confident in their ability to inspect apps (not just with antivirus but also manual checks like monitoring system changes and network traffic) will grab it. As downloads increase and no scandals arise, the chance of getting malware drops proportionally to the likelihood of new users downloading it.

But it’s a different story when a shady site uploads the app under the guise of the developer, while the official pages still list it as paid. Here, the motivation isn’t as clear. If it were a goodwill gesture, the logical move—to avoid unnecessary questions, even from Patreon subscribers—would be to make the app free officially, citing some policy or personal stance change. Most likely, the uploaded version is either not the Patreon build or contains malware. Otherwise, it’s just pointless reputational damage from paying subscribers.

 

[VicroriDz]

It's always a choice to support the developer by purchasing the game instead of pirating it, If they are hypothetically upset about it being shared here, Why buy the game at all in the first place instead of pirating it? It's silly to have bought the game if they really do care about that lol

Not everyone buys something just to support it. Some want to push their own ideas into the game, while others might see their support as an investment in building relationships with the people directly involved in the project.

 

[DenseFool]

But it’s a different story when a shady site uploads the app under the guise of the developer, while the official pages still list it as paid. Here, the motivation isn’t as clear. If it were a goodwill gesture, the logical move—to avoid unnecessary questions, even from Patreon subscribers—would be to make the app free officially, citing some policy or personal stance change. Most likely, the uploaded version is either not the Patreon build or contains malware. Otherwise, it’s just pointless reputational damage from paying subscribers.

The motivation is pretty clear, People are claiming it's malware, the heavily encrypted and obfuscated files don't help inspire confidence, I doubt f95zone is the only place people have noticed the strange DRM. It's almost certainly to clear up the malware accusations. When the unobfuscated build comes out, it's very much possible to look at the code and see what it's doing, So it would be very quickly detected and called out, Which for obvious reasons would be very bad for the developer IF it really does contain malware.

The updated patreon build will no longer contain the weird DRM either, so if you really don't trust the one uploaded here, feel free to get it from there when it releases.

 

[VicroriDz]

The motivation is pretty clear, People are claiming it's malware, the heavily encrypted and obfuscated files don't help inspire confidence, I doubt f95zone is the only place people have noticed the strange DRM. It's almost certainly to clear up the malware accusations. When the unobfuscated build comes out, it's very much possible to look at the code and see what it's doing, So it would be very quickly detected and called out, Which for obvious reasons would be very bad for the developer IF it really does contain malware.

The updated patreon build will no longer contain the weird DRM either, so if you really don't trust the one uploaded here, feel free to get it from there when it releases.

What’s stopping the developer from removing it in an unencrypted version and then adding it back later? If there are suspicions of malware in a specific version, then that’s the version that should be checked... That just makes it even more suspicious—why would the developer even respond to baseless accusations if there’s no clear proof of malware? They could just leave a comment saying, 'No malware here,' explain what the detected code actually does, and move on. If there’s really no malware, then there’s no reason to worry...

 

[DenseFool]

What’s stopping the developer from removing it in an unencrypted version and then adding it back later? If there are suspicions of malware in a specific version, then that’s the version that should be checked... That just makes it even more suspicious—why would the developer even respond to baseless accusations if there’s no clear proof of malware? They could just leave a comment saying, 'No malware here,' explain what the detected code actually does, and move on. If there’s really no malware, then there’s no reason to worry...

They are responding because it's the obvious solution? It's uncertainty regarding their game, Would you prefer they stay radio silent and keep the encryption? I hope you realize ALL versions are going to be unencrypted from this point (from what I understand). If they add the alleged malware back at a later date, It doesn't matter as it would still be found out eventually and still damage their reputation.

If people are claiming your game has malware, Best option is to unencrypt everything and prove it doesn't, no? I don't really understand your point of "responding by removing DRM/Encryption = it had malware" lol

And if anything, them unencrypting the code is way better than just leaving a comment showing a snippet of code that may not even be in the compiled game at all...

I see only benefits here.

 

[VicroriDz]

They are responding because it's the obvious solution? It's uncertainty regarding their game, Would you prefer they stay radio silent and keep the encryption? I hope you realize ALL versions are going to be unencrypted from this point (from what I understand). If they add the alleged malware back at a later date, It doesn't matter as it would still be found out eventually and still damage their reputation.

If people are claiming your game has malware, Best option is to unencrypt everything and prove it doesn't, no? I don't really understand your point of "responding by removing DRM/Encryption = it had malware" lol

And if anything, them unencrypting the code is way better than just leaving a comment showing a snippet of code that may not even be in the compiled game at all...

I see only benefits here.

"Responding by removing DRM/encryption = it had malware" — I didn’t quite get this line, but it’s clearly not what I meant.
Pirates will crack the game anyway, even if there’s no malware check involved. XD
The developer could’ve just said everything was clean, explained what the game actually does in regard to the things the community found suspicious, and left it at that. And if someone asked to remove the protection, they could’ve just smiled and said: "Guys, the game is my property, and I’m not obligated to provide source code to make unofficial distribution without payment easier. If you like paranoia—play with paranoia. If you don’t—play without it, lol. You can even not play at all—that’s your call. I have no bad intentions; the game is clean, it just has extra anti-piracy measures. Decompiling and bypassing payment is a violation of my copyright and will be treated accordingly."

Instead, he uploads a DRM-free version. Here… On some random forum, which isn’t an official source… And claims it’s a Patreon version that’s supposed to be paid.
I don’t know about you, but I’d sooner believe in Santa Claus than that this is completely clean. There’s definitely something fishy—either with the old versions of the game or with the version leaked on the forum.

 

[WaryFox]

Oh, as I see, the free version from itch was removed. It's a shame, but oh well.
As for obfuscation, in my opinion (I don't claim to be right), it only raises suspicions, hinders the community (modders/translators/etc). And I'm already waiting for the "Monster Shrok with a half-meter dick" mod!
For someone trying to crack an app, it only raises the entry threshold (a little bit), during the initial research.

 

[VicroriDz]

Oh, I see my mistake now. I didn’t read the previous messages. This was originally about suspicions of an IP logger and some kind of malware in OLDER versions of the game. I’m new here, just popped in without reading the backstory, asking something like, ‘Where do I click to make it work?’ And the latest version with Kemono and the Halloween version started working without authorization, to which I got a reply from some guy who called himself the developer and sent a link to a version of the game with simplified protection... And that’s where I didn’t get the joke and was like, ‘WTF?!’ -_- I started thinking, if this guy really is the developer and is sharing files without protection, that means he must’ve slipped in some nasty stuff and decided to cause trouble for pirates. But turns out, something was off from the start... Well, duuuuuuh... Kinda scary now to download it, btw... Especially combined with the replies from that guy who claimed to be the developer—and after the old versions were removed from itch.io. I wonder, did he ever post public versions on Patreon? And if so, did he delete those too?

 

[DocRipper]

Oh, I see my mistake now. I didn’t read the previous messages. This was originally about suspicions of an IP logger and some kind of malware in OLDER versions of the game. I’m new here, just popped in without reading the backstory, asking something like, ‘Where do I click to make it work?’ And the latest version with Kemono and the Halloween version started working without authorization, to which I got a reply from some guy who called himself the developer and sent a link to a version of the game with simplified protection... And that’s where I didn’t get the joke and was like, ‘WTF?!’ -_- I started thinking, if this guy really is the developer and is sharing files without protection, that means he must’ve slipped in some nasty stuff and decided to cause trouble for pirates. But turns out, something was off from the start... Well, duuuuuuh... Kinda scary now to download it, btw... Especially combined with the replies from that guy who claimed to be the developer—and after the old versions were removed from itch.io. I wonder, did he ever post public versions on Patreon? And if so, did he delete those too?

It's a very complicated case, isn't it?

Oh, as I see, the free version from itch was removed. It's a shame, but oh well.

The problem is that he did it in absolute silence, no official statement, so now there are many questions on itch why he did it.. I assume it has to do with the Steam release, when he needs to push for a paid version. No more charity. But that's often the case.

I wonder, did he ever post public versions on Patreon?

I don't think so. Classic strategy, Patreon paid, itch free.

 

[alexanderXD]

Actually, it's quite a funny situation. Paid build for free directly from the developer is suspicious, but pirated cracked copies from unknown users are OK. Maybe Micinka should post it somewhere else, so we can steal it.

Maybe we're thinking too negatively? The dev just wants to make a nice gesture,gain trust and prove that the malware stories are just fiction? Maybe the controversy has gone beyond F95 and negatively affect him, who knows.
After all, the fact that Micinka decided to be active here and financially supported F95 suggests that he's trying to improve dev and game image.
On the other hand, it's true that this is a dangerous move, patrons and Steam buyers won't like it...

again most people are to lazy to search in the thread for proof the story is real there is proof its just not from me i don't have the screenshots that were posted here all it really takes someone just looking back on the thread to confirm it was real

 

[DenseFool]

"Responding by removing DRM/encryption = it had malware" — I didn’t quite get this line, but it’s clearly not what I meant.
Pirates will crack the game anyway, even if there’s no malware check involved. XD

Yeah That's just how i interpreted it tbh

The developer could’ve just said everything was clean, explained what the game actually does in regard to the things the community found suspicious, and left it at that.

And you would just take them at their word? that would prove absolutely nothing as the code is obfuscated to infinity and beyond lol

And if someone asked to remove the protection, they could’ve just smiled and said: "Guys, the game is my property, and I’m not obligated to provide source code to make unofficial distribution without payment easier. If you like paranoia—play with paranoia. If you don’t—play without it, lol. You can even not play at all—that’s your call. I have no bad intentions; the game is clean, it just has extra anti-piracy measures. Decompiling and bypassing payment is a violation of my copyright and will be treated accordingly."

This is just a bad stance as a developer. The DRM was sketchy to begin with and I can see why people don't like it. I don't see why you want so badly for the developer to keep the weird obfuscation/encryption instead of removing it.

Instead, he uploads a DRM-free version. Here… On some random forum, which isn’t an official source… And claims it’s a Patreon version that’s supposed to be paid.

If you read my previous post you would see that it's not just going to be uploaded here, all other platforms will get this updated unobfuscated/no drm version. (at least from what I understand of what the developer said)

That means when it is uploaded, you will be able to go to their patreon, and download it there. It's not something exclusive to this forum. If you don't trust that, It's not hard to verify it yourself by subscribing and downloading it from there.
And IF you do that, feel free to compare the SHA hashes.

 

[VicroriDz]

And you would just take them at their word? that would prove absolutely nothing as the code is obfuscated to infinity and beyond lol

If I were a player in this situation, I wouldn’t have believed it. I’d either figure out how the game works myself, wait for professionals to do it, or just give up and not play. However, if I were the developer who crammed in tons of anti-piracy measures to protect the game as much as possible, I’d do exactly the same—assuming I didn’t add any malicious code. Like, if everything’s clean, then the claim about nasty stuff in the code is baseless, and there’s no reason to worry about it. Let the people who waste time cracking it be the ones to stress over it—only to find nothing. And as for piracy, you can always go after the forum owners later.

This is just a bad stance as a developer. The DRM was sketchy to begin with and I can see why people don't like it. I don't see why you want so badly for the developer to keep the weird obfuscation/encryption instead of removing it.

If there's one thing I don't want, it's that—because I'm a bit of a pirate myself too.
I'm just weirded out by the shady messages from that guy claiming to be the dev. It's like he's hinting that there's something bad in the game, and he knows it.

If you read my previous post you would see that it's not just going to be uploaded here, all other platforms will get this updated unobfuscated/no drm version. (at least from what I understand of what the developer said)

That means when it is uploaded, you will be able to go to their patreon, and download it there. It's not something exclusive to this forum. If you don't trust that, It's not hard to verify it yourself by subscribing and downloading it from there.
And IF you do that, feel free to compare the SHA hashes.

Right now, you specifically can't download older versions on Patreon without a subscription. And what's more, you can't even do it on itch.io anymore. If I understand correctly, they removed all versions from itch except the latest one (April Fool's doesn't count).

 

[alexanderXD]

Yeah That's just how i interpreted it tbh


And you would just take them at their word? that would prove absolutely nothing as the code is obfuscated to infinity and beyond lol


This is just a bad stance as a developer. The DRM was sketchy to begin with and I can see why people don't like it. I don't see why you want so badly for the developer to keep the weird obfuscation/encryption instead of removing it.



If you read my previous post you would see that it's not just going to be uploaded here, all other platforms will get this updated unobfuscated/no drm version. (at least from what I understand of what the developer said)

That means when it is uploaded, you will be able to go to their patreon, and download it there. It's not something exclusive to this forum. If you don't trust that, It's not hard to verify it yourself by subscribing and downloading it from there.
And IF you do that, feel free to compare the SHA hashes.

i agree with everything said here if anyone's willing to fetch the original post showing that game was logging ips this would shoot down this player because i used to be player but when that post with evidence showed up everyone including me left the only person from there posting here still would be me because im here to remind people that there is proof of it

 

[DenseFool]

i agree with everything said here if anyone's willing to fetch the original post showing that game was logging ips this would shoot down this player because i used to be player but when that post with evidence showed up everyone including me left the only person from there posting here still would be me because im here to remind people that there is proof of it

I mean even with the obfuscated game in theory it's very easy to check if there is outgoing HTTP/HTTPS traffic if you use a MITM proxy
If its talking to the dev's server, then it's safe to assume IPs would be logged since we can't actually look at how the server is configured lol

 

[DrShadyBase]

any update from steam version?

 

[alexanderXD]

I mean even with the obfuscated game in theory it's very easy to check if there is outgoing HTTP/HTTPS traffic if you use a MITM proxy
If its talking to the dev's server, then it's safe to assume IPs would be logged since we can't actually look at how the server is configured lol

im just saying im not the poster but they got in very easily

 

[helbyh]

he seems slow to post..

 

[Basty96]

he seems slow to post..

or they are just full of shit