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Lordvuz

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Nice game and storyline. That slowly leads to corruption. However Dev needs to work on renders/graphics and improve their quality. That's the only thing this game lacks. The quality could be the same other games such as Anna Ea, Laura lustful s, Manilla shaw.
True, The Boss penis's skin looks like plastic.
 

MadLad Nomad

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I wasn’t annoyed at all. I understood what the Dev was conveying and it is accurate. It is a bit of a slow burn on the NTR side, which I appreciate. I think it a fair warning as some may become frustrated without instant NTR 12 frames in. Those who do not like NTR of any form, don’t play it. I fail to understand people who purposefully come on forums to say they do not like a VN that they never intended to play (not saying that is you.) You know what I comment on Futa/gay/pregnancy/trans games? Nothing.
Yeah I didn't realise at the time of writing what I was saying could come across rude but it just sounded confusing as fuck because my mindset is that a game either has NTR or it doesn't, I don't care if a game has NTR 12 frames in or after 30 updates.

I myself won't play a game if NTR isn't 100% avoidable and optional but I don't come here to rant or demand a on NTR route if the game is focused on it, I mostly just want clarification like is it Girl on Girl NTR because I don't see lesbian content as NTR but I know others do...

As someone who dislikes NYT I also know sharing and swinging and similar stuff isn't technically NTR especially according to Japanese definition but those who dislike NTR are inclined to usually dislike sharing and swinging or voyeurism if it's a LI before she is apparently the LI which is a whole other debate...

I just need clarification so I know if it's something I myself can tolerate like Girl/Girl stuff but if it's another man's cock at any point in the game it isn't players choice than I'll avoid it.
 
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Played for first time until part 3 and it was great. You made so many good foundation to future parts. It's getting better and better judging from the tags I think chapter 2 might be my favorite because
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bandyta80

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and in my opinion the game slowed down a lot after the hot beginning, too much dialogue, too little sex, I don't remember when Grace was last fucked...

I think that in games there is too much fashion for innocent beginnings and foreplay, of course I'm not saying to reveal all the cards right away, but there is too much flirting and groping like at school, and it costs a lot of time and renders which significantly slows down the development of games
 

wildride69

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and in my opinion the game slowed down a lot after the hot beginning, too much dialogue, too little sex, I don't remember when Grace was last fucked...

I think that in games there is too much fashion for innocent beginnings and foreplay, of course I'm not saying to reveal all the cards right away, but there is too much flirting and groping like at school, and it costs a lot of time and renders which significantly slows down the development of games
100% Agree - Chapter 3 what happens to Grace the supposed Main character? Not a damn thing, one guy touches her butt! No sex of any type whatsoever. Beyond slow burn, more like glacial freeze. The sad part is there are a ton of renders of people talking and talking and talking, you get 5 or 6 choices and that's it. The may become a good VN in 3-4 years at this rate.
 
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bandyta80

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100% Agree - Chapter 3 what happens to Grace the supposed Main character? Not a damn thing, one guy touches her butt! No sex of any type whatsoever. Beyond slow burn, more like glacial freeze. The sad part is there are a ton of renders of people talking and talking and talking, you get 5 or 6 choices and that's it. The may become a good VN in 3-4 years at this rate.

Turning games into TV soap operas is problematic, as creators often spend too much time creating unimportant details that everyone will quickly click on later anyway. Of course, the plot is important, but we don't have to listen to thousands of conversations.


these are porn games, not pulp fiction or the wolf of wall street to be passionate about conversations :LOL:
 
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and in my opinion the game slowed down a lot after the hot beginning, too much dialogue, too little sex, I don't remember when Grace was last fucked...

I think that in games there is too much fashion for innocent beginnings and foreplay, of course I'm not saying to reveal all the cards right away, but there is too much flirting and groping like at school, and it costs a lot of time and renders which significantly slows down the development of games
I like the slow burn and creating opportunities for further parts but I agree with you on much dialogue. To be honest I don't care much about the story and fast forwarded some of them (so a recap would be great before chapter 2)
Game is a smut game so main focus should be sexual activities like both groping and sex. Groping, touching, slapping, smacking, taking creep pics, taking nude pics are as important as sex but dialogues are just sauce. Every good meal needs sauce but too much sauce is never good.
 
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Joshy92

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I have been thinking about trying this, but I have a few questions first.

Are the couple in a loving relationship?

And if the FMC cheats can the MMC forgive her?

Because I don't mind if she cheats but I don't want the MMC to start calling her a whore or treating her like garbage.
 

wildride69

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I have been thinking about trying this, but I have a few questions first.

Are the couple in a loving relationship?

And if the FMC cheats can the MMC forgive her?

Because I don't mind if she cheats but I don't want the MMC to start calling her a whore or treating her like garbage.
Her husband is a corrupt scumbag that would sell her to anyone if it would advance his career. His partners are scumbags, his neighbors are scumbags. She isn't exactly an innocent either. So all characters are out for themselves this is a Darker (pun intended) VN and Love has not really showed itself except as lip service between her and her creep of a husband.

If you are looking for love this is probably not going to be a VN you like.
 
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Joshy92

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Her husband is a corrupt scumbag that would sell her to anyone if it would advance his career. His partners are scumbags, his neighbors are scumbags. She isn't exactly an innocent either. So all characters are out for themselves this is a Darker (pun intended) VN and Love has not really showed itself except as lip service between her and her creep of a husband.

If you are looking for love this is probably not going to be a VN you like.
Thanks for the info mate.

Yeah, I like MC's who are loving & kind to the LI
And I hate scumbag MC's.
So, it sounds like I probably won't like this.
 
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palmtrees89

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Thanks for the info mate.

Yeah, I like MC's who are loving & kind to the LI
And I hate scumbag MC's.
So, it sounds like I probably won't like this.
He is kind and loving when they're with eachother, but the second she isn't around he acts like her pimp or something. In the very beginning of the game, MC has a meeting with a...business partner of sorts. This guy keeps calling her a slut and whatnot, which apparently the MC is totally okay with. The scene was badly written imo.

The game has potential, but some of the stuff is a little weird. I'd say give it a shot and see for yourself.
 
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bandyta80

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I like the slow burn and creating opportunities for further parts but I agree with you on much dialogue. To be honest I don't care much about the story and fast forwarded some of them (so a recap would be great before chapter 2)
Game is a smut game so main focus should be sexual activities like both groping and sex. Groping, touching, slapping, smacking, taking creep pics, taking nude pics are as important as sex but dialogues are just sauce. Every good meal needs sauce but too much sauce is never good.
for me, such games can have longer conversations if they lead directly to good sexual events, sometimes scenes are better when there is an introduction to them that is appropriate to the plot, e.g. Deliverance, I really appreciated it and a few other games, but there should be no conversations, which do not contribute anything in the released update, we have a married woman here, and the beach scenes were filmed as if with the participation of a teenage girl, who can be aroused by this
 

wildride69

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He is kind and loving when they're with eachother, but the second she isn't around he acts like her pimp or something. In the very beginning of the game, MC has a meeting with a...business partner of sorts. This guy keeps calling her a slut and whatnot, which apparently the MC is totally okay with. The scene was badly written imo.

The game has potential, but some of the stuff is a little weird. I'd say give it a shot and see for yourself.
Her husband knowingly shipped her off with his scumbag partner knowing full well his thoughts and intentions. What part of that screams love in any way shape or form besides love of his career and money.

Joshy92 clearly states "I like MC's who are loving & kind to the LI And I hate scumbag MC's" What part of this game so far says things will get more romantic and start to suit his tastes?

It makes no sense to tell him "TRY" it when he states his preferences clearly. If it's not his fetish then move on don't suffer through trying it, then let him get angry and leave a negative review....Better to be honest up front.
 

palmtrees89

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Her husband knowingly shipped her off with his scumbag partner knowing full well his thoughts and intentions. What part of that screams love in any way shape or form besides love of his career and money.

Joshy92 clearly states "I like MC's who are loving & kind to the LI And I hate scumbag MC's" What part of this game so far says things will get more romantic and start to suit his tastes?

It makes no sense to tell him "TRY" it when he states his preferences clearly. If it's not his fetish then move on don't suffer through trying it, then let him get angry and leave a negative review....Better to be honest up front.
You might wanna read the very first sentence of my post again...Or actually all of it? It's exactly how I described it. Nothing in my post makes it sound like the game would get more romantic whatsoever. No clue what you're on about.

I was honest. Not sure what you're reading into my post. Clearly told him how the male MC acts, or in other words that he is indeed a scumbag.

If checking a game out is, in your mind, somehow connected with suffering and anger, then I'd argue something isn't quite right on your end. He can check it out and see for himself or simply walk away knowing what awaits him based on the infos provided.

What I said is no rocket science. Male MC acts kind and loving whenever female MC is around, or like an absolute cunt when she isn't.
 

wildride69

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You might wanna read the very first sentence of my post again...Or actually all of it? It's exactly how I described it. Nothing in my post makes it sound like the game would get more romantic whatsoever. No clue what you're on about.

I was honest. Not sure what you're reading into my post. Clearly told him how the male MC acts, or in other words that he is indeed a scumbag.

If checking a game out is, in your mind, somehow connected with suffering and anger, then I'd argue something isn't quite right on your end. He can check it out and see for himself or simply walk away knowing what awaits him based on the infos provided.

What I said is no rocket science. Male MC acts kind and loving whenever female MC is around, or like an absolute cunt when she isn't.
"I'd say give it a shot and see for yourself." is what I'm referring to. he came he checked it out, he stated his preferences.

Your statement is far from the worst I've seen on this board but it seems disingenuous to think this game may at any time in it's development take a turn to what he likes.

If I see a game called "Confused Harry" a young mans sexual awakening, I ask in the thread "Excuse me this game seems gay does harry have sex with women and can he go straight? and someone says "I'd say give it a shot and see for yourself".......
 
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