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Redfield5

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I like how you just made up and responded to arguments I wasn't making. It's not that AI art is 'souless' or 'emotionless' (I mean, that's all true, but it's not what I'm talking about at the moment). If someone wants to make a porn game where an old woman and a schoolteacher fuck three big black guys, a demon, and a dog in a Russian gulag, they can't use AI art to make that game, because it's not good enough at generating unique images to make that image without it coming out as an ugly blob (and even if it was, the type of person using AI is generally too lazy to put the effort in to tune the AI to output something exactly right. If they weren't, they wouldn't be using AI in the first place).

Sure game creators might be reusing stock 3D assets, but they can combine them and pose them to make whatever scene they want. That's what me and the person I was originally responding to were talking about. Games that use AI are boring and uncreative because the technology is so limited that the art can only show boring and uncreative scenarios (ie girl+guy in a generic background). It doesn't matter who or how it's being made. People want something interesting to jack off to. Underpaid Japanese artists can draw something interesting to jack off to. 3D models can be posed into something interesting to jack off to. AI can't do that. Hell it can't even make something basic that doesn't make every user on this site go "hey that's obviously AI art." You call me a luddite, but you're basically a caveman with a rock and stick demanding acceptance to NASA.
I think the other guy is right to a degree. I'm not saying this "creator" isn't putting out shovelware, because he certainly is. But this site is already flooded with crap games you gotta sift through. There are creators who are using AI art but are making a good game around it. And like the other guy said, 10 years from now AI will be able to make that orgy scene you want.

Forgive me for saying it, but it sounds like you're just biased against AI art. Not that there can't be a case made for that, because there can, but more on how AI takes real artists' works and uses those to make it's own.
 
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istalo

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Actually there's even a character from a gacha game that i currently playing that sports similar name and hairstyle. It's one of the reason why i clicked on this obvious AI game lol.
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Really paint the differences between AI and actual artist.
Dude literally posted two samey games from the same developer where the girls look almost the same and were probably made by the same AI.

Peak 2023 F95 posting lmao.
 

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So is the Damian in this game, the same Damian who dated Emily in previous game? Or is the Damian in this game, a different Damian dating the twin sister of Emily? Either way, I think Sophia is a bit more attractive than Emily overall.
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istalo

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So is the Damian in this game, the same Damian who dated Emily in previous game? Or is the Damian in this game, a different Damian dating the twin sister of Emily? Either way, I think Sophia is a bit more attractive than Emily overall.
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What are the odds he also used ChatGPT for the writing? Fucking kek
 

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Date Sophia is a choice-based short visual novel made in Ren'py, you have been set up on a date with a girl named Sophia and she is expecting you at her house.​

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bleruse

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I mean, outside of the Japanese RPGM games, porn games with good art don't exactly grow on trees. Most games are using default/poorly edited 3D models that all look alike. I consider most 3DCG games (other than outliers like Eternum that put in actual effort) to be even more "soulless" than AI gen'd stuff. And before AI generated stuff, there was media drawn by Japanese/Koreans living off of slave wages. What emotion are they putting into their work? Despair?

Also, AI art is generated from material found on the internet. It's not produced from scratch. And that technology? It's only going to get better, never worse. It's a matter of when, not if. You can hate it as much as you want, but .
Ripping off artists is neither new nor progress. Obfuscating the plagiarism doesn't not change that fact.
 
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[...] old woman and a schoolteacher fuck three big black guys, a demon, and a dog in a Russian gulag [...]
I couldn't resist giving it a go. I used Epic, Stable and Waifu Diffusion. I was very lazy.

Images depicting Russia and people are common, but ones that show demons or dogs are rare.

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NSFW content often includes Russia and elderly people engaging in sexual acts, but never demons or dogs. The quality of the content is poor. It is recommended to view this material online at the Dezgo website. I agree that a lack of samples limits the outputs. Training on Ehentai may work, but it does not address whether the content is creative or a replication.

I am pleased to see a completed game in this thread, but I have questions about the quality of the effort. AI art is now similar to digital photography in that most of the results are uninspiring. To create truly unique and inspiring works, users must be creative and put in effort; simply producing for consumption is not enough.

AI art can be useful for image upscaling, rebuilding, and improving the workflow of existing media. Using AI for rewriting your forum posts can help you prevent having the same writing style in other documents, for security purposes ;).

In my opinion, the question of AI creating media from scratch is not interesting and leads to too much discussion about ontology, such as whether it is "created" or "copies" and whether it is "real". These topics have a complex philosophical history, but most people do not understand them well, and interact with AI art based on their gut feeling.

Many users either lack meaningful reasons for using AI art or use it to gain quick attention on online platforms. I do not propose that Artificial Intelligence should be exclusively applied within a capital context (such as financial gain, job proficiency, web scores, etc.). Nevertheless, due to the capital-oriented nature of a large part of the internet, it is likely that AI art will become increasingly commonplace. People with minimal knowledge of DNN/ML are making images that surpass the state-of-the-art conference papers of just a few years ago. The low barrier to entry makes its widespread use almost inevitable.

To maintain a high signal-to-noise ratio in F95, an effective strategy is to use ratings and reviews systems. AI content will continue to grow in popularity. We need to reward posts that use Artificial Intelligence (AI) content effectively to create aesthetically pleasing works.
 
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Larclaimer

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KEK forget about demon, dogs or russian people thingy
we already have peak HUMAN-ONLY PORN
FUCKING HITLER LITERALLY in 2D/3D
XD
 

AH-64E

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Ripping off artists is neither new nor progress. Obfuscating the plagiarism doesn't not change that fact.
Actually, building off of existing technology and methods is exactly how progress works. Legit, look at absolutely anything. Illustrations? Humans were doing cave paintings over 60,000 years ago, is everything since ripping off cave paintings? Are Teslas ripping off horse drawn carriages? Are carriages themselves ripping off rolling things around using logs? The Sun did light first, light bulbs must be ripping off the Sun.

All outlandish examples, but they're to prove a point. Progress is built off of what came before. There's absolutely nothing that you or I know in our everyday lives that is wholly unique. Not a single object or concept we know is original.

AI is the culmination of nearly 200,000 years of human progress (or 6,000 if you believe in zombies). Everything we've done, it all led to AI. You and others can hate AI and think it's unnatural, but as I've said in previous posts--- it's going to get better at what it does. Maybe not this year, or even in ten years, or even a hundred, but one day every single aspect of what humanity is capable of will be perfectly emulated by AIs/AGIs. In the same way humans learn from what proceeded them, AI will learn from us and from other AIs, as well.


TL;DR, Matrix.
 

tuuri

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They could, but it seems to be a cheap/free AI that's not very well trained.
Spoken like somebody that has no experience using stable diffusion lol
The paid services are generally the shitty ones just download whatever is popular on civitai
 

balitz Method

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People said exactly the same thing you're saying to the letter when the mechanized loom was invented.
If you think of creative work as something that can simply be mass-produced according to a formula, like ikea furniture with clear instructions and interchangeable parts, then you're approaching them as being cheap, disposable garbage. You can refine the process for making garbage but it will always be garbage.

Sure game creators might be reusing stock 3D assets, but they can combine them and pose them to make whatever scene they want. That's what me and the person I was originally responding to were talking about. Games that use AI are boring and uncreative because the technology is so limited that the art can only show boring and uncreative scenarios (ie girl+guy in a generic background). It doesn't matter who or how it's being made. People want something interesting to jack off to. Underpaid Japanese artists can draw something interesting to jack off to. 3D models can be posed into something interesting to jack off to. AI can't do that. Hell it can't even make something basic that doesn't make every user on this site go "hey that's obviously AI art." You call me a luddite, but you're basically a caveman with a rock and stick demanding acceptance to NASA.
This is what the ones who want to jerk off to the Cumming of the Singularity don't understand about the actual limits of the technology. It can, fundamentally, only churn out cheap garbage because it's either copying directly, making generic mock-ups based on imagery that crops up over and over, or spitting out visual nonsense. You cannot tell it to render your unique idea because these programs are gimmicks; they don't actually understand artistic principles and can't draw something that hasn't been fed to it already.
 
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This is what the ones who want to jerk off to the Cumming of the Singularity don't understand about the actual limits of the technology. It can, fundamentally, only churn out cheap garbage because it's either copying directly, making generic mock-ups based on imagery that crops up over and over, or spitting out visual nonsense. You cannot tell it to render your unique idea because these programs are gimmicks; they don't actually understand artistic principles and can't draw something that hasn't been fed to it already.
Right? I had the thought that the use-case for using AI art for porn games has already been solved. In order to get it to generate something hyper-specific, you have to find hyper-specific examples to feed into it. So a collage game like Hentai High School can just go "hey, we've found these hyper-specific example already, let's just source/steal the art and put it straight into our game." AI is just an unnecessary middleman if you really want to make a game without creating any art of your own.
 

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I mean, outside of the Japanese RPGM games, porn games with good art don't exactly grow on trees. Most games are using default/poorly edited 3D models that all look alike. I consider most 3DCG games (other than outliers like Eternum that put in actual effort) to be even more "soulless" than AI gen'd stuff. And before AI generated stuff, there was media drawn by Japanese/Koreans living off of slave wages. What emotion are they putting into their work? Despair?

Also, AI art is generated from material found on the internet. It's not produced from scratch. And that technology? It's only going to get better, never worse. It's a matter of when, not if. You can hate it as much as you want, but .
No dude for one many people buy the rights to the 3d models not all do but you should if you making money off them. Next up AI uses stolen material most the time people like this are finding copyrighted material to feed it, and even then this person is doing a shit job training it. I know a guy who downloaded one and has hatrained his pretty damn good to make silly pictures for him. This is always gonna be crap if you not training it to do what you want, it can defaintly get worse because it still requires A PERSON feed it data, and pick its finished results.

I seen nice shit from them they almost put it on their machines they need good machine to generate them faster and got feed tons of data, spending hours upon hours on it every week to get results they want. This looks some one spent 4 hours total had the ai write it for them, then sent 30 minutes making the game cg picking from the first 3 results every time. Like they got the CG for all their games done on the same dam day.

Sorry dude you love it so much but human failure can not be stopped you can give lazy people best tools in world and they still make shit with it. I can give some lazy kid best pc money can buy all the software and tools they ever need and they still make a shit game. AI is just a tool and again to get really good results it still takes a lot of work and practice wich this dev doesn't want to do at all lol.
 

istalo

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lol, there are minor differences, like hair shading/hue, left arm's positioning, smile, eye shape, and some others. But yeah, one is probably based/generated off the other.
Thanks for explaining the joke mate.
 

VictorDoUrden

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how or which AI site or w/e is it that you can have the same image changed several times to different stuff? There a place you can upload a base and get it changed?
 
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