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Dustellar

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Dude, people here, mostly people, read it for free, including me. That makes it so we don't even have a market value on the Daval3D chart. The only way that will ever happen is if the paying subscribers get bored and ask them for an urgent change, but even they look happy with how the story is going and, at this rate, Daval could easily wrap it up and start another one. The most likely path is for ID to end with just Lana and Daniel, purely as a matter of statistics. But imagine the second least likely option happens next? TH2.0, everyone fucks everyone?
Nah, just Daniel with the girls, Daval isn't dumb enough to add another male like in MT, people don't hate Uncle Peter just because he's fucking a love interest of the MC, they hate him because he's male, I don't see many people mad at Silvia for doing almost the same thing, because it hints at the possibility of David fucking both.

If they ever make Daniel fuck Sofia, Martha, Sharon, etc, it will always be in a threesome/foursome with Lana, I agree with you that it isn't a possibility yet, but to me the fact that some of them already suspect, it's a hint for future content with them, I have no doubts that if Sofia find out, she will keep the secret only if she can have a taste too.
 
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Nah, just Daniel with the girls, Daval isn't dumb enough to add another male like in MT, people don't hate Uncle Peter just because he's fucking a love interest of the MC, they hate him because he's male, I don't see many people mad at Silvia for doing almost the same thing, because it hints at the possibility of David fucking both.

If they ever make Daniel fuck Sofia, Martha, Sharon, etc, it will always be in a threesome/foursome with Lana, I agree with you that it isn't a possibility yet, but to me the fact that some of them already suspect, it's a hint for future content with them, I have no doubts that if Sofia find out, she will keep the secret only if she can have a taste too.
Okay, but that's just a hypothesis, at best a thesis and very incomplete. But what supports it? I already gave my points as to why it's unlikely to happen, but what else, how do you support it? And this increasingly loses weight when Daval consciously ignored the detail of Lana's bra. Which could very well serve as a starting point for Lana's friends to figure it out now. Why wait?
 

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What in 3D works/Hentai/Porn ISN'T "predictable"? I mean, let's be honest: what haven't you seen before? You'll usually find the audience in two camps: (1) the monoamorous and fringe harem camp, where the sexual exploits are exclusive to just the main male character and the main female character or the main male character's harem, or (2) the polyamorous camp, where it's more like modern pornography and anything goes, i.e. an "Eyes Wide Shut"-like Bacchanalia of debaucherous sexual exploits limited to no one sexual partner, regardless of whether it's the main male character or the main female character (but typically, the main female character.) Those who claim it's boring are probably in camp 2, while those who are rebuffing their comments are probably in camp 1. I personally couldn't care less for Martha and Sophia, and would personally like to see the sex remain just between Daniel and Lana. Do I think it will remain that way? No. I assume Daval is keeping his options open, and teases prospects like Daniel and Sophia, or Daniel and Sophia and Martha, or Daniel and Sharon and Friend, etc. I think, and this is just my opinion, that once he milks the Mother-Son incest angle, he'll eventually attempt to appeal to a different crowd. Because it's clear, to me at least, that Daval is in camp 2, but because of Daniel and Lana's popularity, caters to camp 1. I don't think Madness Together is necessarily better because there are different characters. Even though I like Madness, it's a bit of a mess, because Daval is reeling back from the Uncle Peter controversy, so in my assumption, he's finding ways to keep the characters, for lack of a better term, "occupied." You rarely find artists who'll find ways to end their stories on a good note (e.g. the late Redoxa) and start anew.

Only time will tell. I just know (assume, really) that one of the two camps I mentioned before will not be happy by the end.
A pure concentrate of truth here, love it
 

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Okay, but that's just a hypothesis, at best a thesis and very incomplete. But what supports it? I already gave my points as to why it's unlikely to happen, but what else, how do you support it? And this increasingly loses weight when Daval consciously ignored the detail of Lana's bra. Which could very well serve as a starting point for Lana's friends to figure it out now. Why wait?
Now I know this could be considered a popular fallacy. But meh.
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Dustellar

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Okay, but that's just a hypothesis, at best a thesis and very incomplete. But what supports it? I already gave my points as to why it's unlikely to happen, but what else, how do you support it? And this increasingly loses weight when Daval consciously ignored the detail of Lana's bra. Which could very well serve as a starting point for Lana's friends to figure it out now. Why wait?
It may be on purpose, there's still chances Martha will find the bra later, in a future issue, I think Daval will save it because it's too soon to give them even more things to suspect, after all the only ones that really suspect something wrong is happening are Sofia and Sharon.
 

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It may be on purpose, there's still chances Martha will find the bra later, in a future issue, I think Daval will save it because it's too soon to give them even more things to suspect, after all the only ones that really suspect something wrong is happening are Sofia and Sharon.
We're almost at chapter 10. There are only 30 pages left and this chapter ends, why save it for later? It doesn't make any sense.

It's the important thing, not according to what I understood from your logic, Sofia and Sharon are the important ones, what do they matter if only they are the ones who are pechan? More than just that because it's really nonsense and a lack of narrative querence. Seriously, brother.
 

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We're almost at chapter 10. There are only 30 pages left and this chapter ends, why save it for later? It doesn't make any sense.

It's the important thing, not according to what I understood from your logic, Sofia and Sharon are the important ones, what do they matter if only they are the ones who are pechan? More than just that because it's really nonsense and a lack of narrative querence. Seriously, brother.
You act like this comic is about to end, it may last for 20 more issues, there's a lot of time for more content and a change of narrative, there's time for more development and hints, if you guys want 20 issues of the Daniel "tricking" Lana for sex and she saying "oh, I can't believe I'm in this situation again, but I will never admit I like it" over and over again, well it's fine, but to me it's clear Daval is planting the seeds to develop other characters in this comic, it may take 5 or 10 more issues, but to me it will happens.
 

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You act like this comic is about to end, it may last for 20 more issues, there's a lot of time for more content and a change of narrative, there's time for more development and hints, if you guys want 20 issues of the Daniel "tricking" Lana for sex and she saying "oh, I can't believe I'm in this situation again, but I will never admit I like it" over and over again, well it's fine, but to me it's clear Daval is planting the seeds to develop other characters in this comic, it may take 5 or 10 more issues, but to me it will happens.
And the sources are? I don't know, your wishes.
I'm not saying the comic is going to end already, if Daval wants to, he can do 100 more parts, but that has nothing to do with your previous replies. Here the point is that Daval has never given a hint of wanting to do a Harem because he already excites SN for that role. Much less have his paying subscribers given any indication of discontent; in fact, this the opposite.
'' ''Daval is planting the seeds for developing other characters in this comic''' To that he only responded with a great line. ''The universe is always going to give you evidence of your beliefs, if you believe it, you believe it. You choose what to believe and what you believe will always be a reality for you."‘’ Abraham Hicks.''
 
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still alive.
I thought RawlyRawls implicated his passing. Am I mistaken? (Believe me, I would love to be.)

That's because for now Lana/Daniel is still interesting, thanks to the whole jealousy arc and the risk of getting caught, but it's a matter of time until readers consider it boring, it's already happening with some readers here, something has to happen and they can go two routes, they give us more Lana/Daniel, making her embrace the relationship and maybe giving us pregnancy... or they start giving us threesomes/foursomes, Daniel literally has a mom, a female cousin, an aunt, a grandma, if Daval and subs want, they can turn it into the definitive incest comic.
You act like this comic is about to end, it may last for 20 more issues, there's a lot of time for more content and a change of narrative, there's time for more development and hints, if you guys want 20 issues of the Daniel "tricking" Lana for sex and she saying "oh, I can't believe I'm in this situation again, but I will never admit I like it" over and over again, well it's fine, but to me it's clear Daval is planting the seeds to develop other characters in this comic, it may take 5 or 10 more issues, but to me it will happens.
Which readers will consider it boring? Everything is important in context. Would the mother-son incest crowd find it boring any time soon? It's possible, but 1000+ pages of content focused on Daniel and Lana have provided no such indication. Immoral Desires contains Daval's most exclusive pairing, that is Lana and Daniel, with the occasional run-ins with Alex (and almost Sophia,) yet Immoral Desires, and I'm willing to bet an arm and leg over this, is his most POPULAR series amongst his others. As Jack_Zy pointed out, he already has a harem series in Satisfying Needs, and he has an incest "free for all" in Madness Together. (I won't get started on his works under the alias DirDr/DirDogma.) Is it because of Lana's design? I don't doubt that's a contributing factor as I've seen posts which laud her appearance, but I've pointed out in a previous post that her appearance isn't entirely original. And one can argue that Sarah from MT rivals her, or at the very least comes in as a close second. But it's clear that his magnum opus is Immoral Desires. And the reason I assume that is, is a result of the aforementioned demographic--i.e. the mother-son incest crowd--not to mention Daniel's dominant personality and methods of approaching his mother sexually. Artists have taken polls time and again, and the mother-son genre has consistently overwhelmed the other genres. Daval had a chance to capitalize on this in Satisfying Needs but erred with his, and I'm just assuming this, "taste" for polyamorous sexual depravity. The same can almost be said for Madness Together--hence the controversy with Uncle Peter given that Sarah was and is by all means and purposes a surrogate "mother" for David. As long as the crowd to which Daval caters continue to respond positively to the progression of his work with Immoral Desires, he has enough incentive to keep "repeating." And repetition isn't necessarily bad, especially when it's lucrative.

Will Daval's current approach in Immoral Desires get boring after a while? Depends on whom you ask. But what are you indicating when you state that? EVERYTHING (IN PORN/HENTAI/3D WORKS) CAN GET BORING AFTER A WHILE. (Caps for emphasis, not "internet shouting.") And I harken back to my last post when I questioned the chances that one hasn't already seen everything there is to see. I mean is Immoral Desires the first story to focus on a male character aggressively pursuing his mother? Mythological lore and Shakespeare's plays had a leg up on that one. And yet we still come back to these themes, and regurgitate them over and over. So is the issue really the "bordem" that repetition can bring, or is it--as Jack_Zy implied--a projection of one's own wishes--i.e. one would like to see Daniel pursue Sophia and Martha? I'll be the first to tell you that there's nothing wrong with admitting that. You are, needless to say, entitlted to your preferences. I may not subscribe to them (e.g. I think you're overestimating some throwaway details like the bra, Lana's mention of her siblings and parents, and the attractiveness of auxilliary characters like Martha and Sophia) but I'll defend tooth and nail your capacity to express your preferences as you see fit. I mean, isn't that the epitome of this forum?
 
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I stand corrected. That's amazing! Granted, I haven't read any updates on his health in a while, and just presumed what I've read on other forums was true. That fault is on me. Here's to his improving health, and hopefully, if and when he's ready, he can resume or start anew his work.
 
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