4.80 star(s) 5 Votes

8TB

Member
Dec 24, 2023
341
2,266
Do you know the works of kuroneko smith?
Of course, I translated and edited all of the Oba-san no Karada ga Kimochiyo Sugiru Kara installments, and have put an indefinite pause on editing the comic release. If you bring it up to highlight the similarity between the aforementioned series, and Immoral Desires, then I definitely agree with you. It's one of the reasons I took so quickly to Immoral Desires.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Cedilim

mickeymcd30

Member
Sep 13, 2022
304
1,886
Well, I'm asking if you know the work of kuroneko smith cause based on his work, 8TB is the translator. I want to know what happen to him cause his work is not finish.
Anyway if you are not related to him, please disregard this message about him.

About Daval comics, I agree to you that dialogues are sometimes not on point. But I think it is forgivable given the fact that Daval is not American. Maybe he also not putting more effort at times on it because of the deadline on posting. Regardless of all the minor short comings, I say that Daval is one of the great 3D artist to this time. He and MandoLogica are very good. Their works is worth reading and following.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 8TB

Donnie Brasco

Well-Known Member
Dec 15, 2018
1,206
10,971
FI don't talk about non porn 3d..this thread is about porn 3d right? and for me daval3d is best porn 3d Creator in business . period
Well, I didn't talk about non porn 3D either. But it doesn't matter, you're not going to change your mind anyway, and I don't want you to. I see it differently and all five.
I wouldn't quite say that. Daval's character designs are definitely on par with Miro's. Where Miro edges Daval out, in my opinion, is in detail and depth. This is only my impression, but Miro appears to put a lot more work into their renders than Daval does (especially the background images.) And I agree with you that Daval isn't the best 3D artist I've seen. But I think he could be one of them if he lightens up the workload and focuses on making the best renders.
Character design maybe. But honestly, you can see as many characters as you want on the Daz3d Art - Show Us Your DazSkill thread. Of course, both better and worse than his. About rest you mentioned that definitively need some extra skills and time. And time is money. And he likes money. He share on X once several seconds long Amanda's dance, of course someone's pre-made animation. And then I remember Girlfriend4ever. Almost ten years old miro's work. Ten years may not seem like a long time, but in the computer world it's huge.
I'm fairly confident that your works could be just as popular if you are able to compile enough of them to make a comic
It's nice from you, but you know I do that just for fun.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: 8TB

8TB

Member
Dec 24, 2023
341
2,266
Well, I'm asking if you know the work of kuroneko smith cause based on his work, 8TB is the translator. I want to know what happen to him cause his work is not finish.
Anyway if you are not related to him, please disregard this message about him.
While I am that 8TB, I am not related to him, so your guess would be as good as mine would be.

About Daval comics, I agree to you that dialogues are sometimes not on point. But I think it is forgivable given the fact that Daval is not American. Maybe he also not putting more effort at times on it because of the deadline on posting. Regardless of all the minor short comings, I say that Daval is one of the great 3D artist to this time. He and MandoLogica are very good. Their works is worth reading and following.
Part of the reason I like Immoral Desires is because of my intimate relationship, for lack of better terms, with Kuroneko's work, Oba-san no Karada ga Kimochiyo Sugiru Kara. The archetypes are pretty much the same, that is, Daniel and Kousuke (Ko-chan) are two peas in a pod. Both series reflect an Oedipal and Male Power fantasy. Both Kyouko and Lana are the older, incredibly busty, pushover maternal objects, who are often dominated sexually by their younger male partners. The difference is that Kyouko and Kousuke are aunt and nephew; furthermore, Kousuke is blackmailing his aunt into having sex--though, the implications of this blackmail are quite soft, given that it's clear that Kousuke has no intention of actually causing any trouble for his aunt. When translating the work, I made sure to highlight the differences in their speech where Kyouko is more formal and polite, and Ko-chan is more rough and nonchalant. I think their speech lends well to their diametrically opposed attitudes and sentiments on sex. I just wished Immoral Desires reflected a bit more of this as well.

Katherine from Mandologica's Forbidden Flames curses a lot, but the difference here is that she's a character who's been established to have a bad temper. It actually lends itself well to their interactions because it provides more nuance when she "softens up" during her interactions with her son, Ben. Lana stating, "what the fuck?" and "Yes, Yes, Yes, I feel like a slut, and it feels liberating,"? I understand wanting to convey her letting loose, but why is she talking like that? Surely there are better ways to word her "liberation." But who knows? Maybe it's just I. I grew up in a time when children didn't curse in front of their parents, and parents spoke with a certain sophistication. If Lana wasn't slated as some "morally upright" character, I probably wouldn't have much problem with it, in the same way I don't have a problem with Katherine's speech. But Daval did set her up with a particular demeanor, and her dialogue has done little to nothing to service it.
 

Mekalam

Newbie
Jun 28, 2024
91
227
Well, I didn't talk about non porn 3D either. But it doesn't matter, you're not going to change your mind anyway, and I don't want you to. I see it differently and all five.

Character design maybe. But honestly, you can see as many characters as you want on the Daz3d Art - Show Us Your DazSkill thread. Of course, both better and worse than his. About rest you mentioned that definitively need some extra skills and time. And time is money. And he likes money. He share on X once several seconds long Amanda's dance, of course someone's pre-made animation. And then I remember Girlfriend4ever. Almost ten years old miro's work. Ten years may not seem like a long time, but in the computer world it's huge.

It's nice from you, but you know I do that just for fun.
in 3d animation definitly your favorite artist is my favorite too.. 'Miro' and '26RegionSFM' are my tops.
 

8TB

Member
Dec 24, 2023
341
2,266
Indefinite pause, why? I hope you resume it. I love that series. And the translation is excellent by the way.
Also, maybe you can help Daval in dialogues by giving him pointers.
Don't worry. I don't have any intention of not finishing. And the reason it's been taking me so long, is that I often go back and see where I could've done things different or better. I'm neurotic that way. So there are times, I don't work on it at all because I figure the works are already translated. The comic merely bears the luxury of less censorship. Even though it's taken a while, I still find time here and there to do some editing on the work.

And I would love to get into contact with Daval3D and give him what I feel, in my opinion, are pointers on how to improve the dialogue. I would even do it for free, at this point.
 
  • Like
Reactions: mickeymcd30

8TB

Member
Dec 24, 2023
341
2,266
Character design maybe. But honestly, you can see as many characters as you want on the Daz3d Art - Show Us Your DazSkill thread. Of course, both better and worse than his. About rest you mentioned that definitively need some extra skills and time. And time is money. And he likes money. He share on X once several seconds long Amanda's dance, of course someone's pre-made animation. And then I remember Girlfriend4ever. Almost ten years old miro's work. Ten years may not seem like a long time, but in the computer world it's huge.
I agree. I have the impression that his industriousness, has led to slight corners being cut. But I suppose that in and of itself is a benefit. And the Daz3D Art thread is a good reference. I've seen some amazing art there.

It's nice from you, but you know I do that just for fun.
I understand. Sometimes when something becomes "work" it loses its charm. *cough* my taking a break from translating and editing manga *cough* But should the day ever come when you decide to make a comic or a short, I would definitely like to see it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Donnie Brasco

Donnie Brasco

Well-Known Member
Dec 15, 2018
1,206
10,971
I agree. I have the impression that his industriousness, has led to slight corners being cut. But I suppose that in and of itself is a benefit. And the Daz3D Art thread is a good reference. I've seen some amazing art there.

I understand. Sometimes when something becomes "work" it loses its charm. *cough* my taking a break from translating and editing manga *cough* But should the day ever come when you decide to make a comic or a short, I would definitely like to see it.
You know recently I start again to play one NTL game (the latest one). That and bit of DAZ and so less time. Once I was, but for some time now I don't eagerly wait for anything (well except new TR game). So much content that you can't follow it all. Same with Daval. When something leak I check. If he stop to publish it's OK too. Nor that I want to, but let's say that I'm bit indifferent not just for his work, more like in general. BTW... translating manga. Do you mean something from Japanese to English or something like that.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 8TB

8TB

Member
Dec 24, 2023
341
2,266
You know recently I start again to play one NTL game (the latest one). That and bit of DAZ and so less time. Once I was, but for some time now I don't eagerly wait for anything (well except new TR game). So much content that you can't follow it all. Same with Daval. When something leak I check. If he stop to publish it's OK too. Nor that I want to, but let's say that I'm bit indifferent not just for his work, more like in general.
Yeah, I understand. I feel that way sometimes, too. That is, just go with the flow. If it releases, great. If not, I'll wait or move on to something else.


BTW... translating manga. Do you mean something from Japanese to English or something like that.
Yeah. I speak English, French, Spanish and Japanese (though my Japanese could still use some work.) I've only ever translated Japanese manga to English. Sometimes when I see the intention to translate to French, I may give some translators some help.
 
  • Wow
Reactions: Donnie Brasco

Donnie Brasco

Well-Known Member
Dec 15, 2018
1,206
10,971
Yeah. I speak English, French, Spanish and Japanese (though my Japanese could still use some work.) I've only ever translated Japanese manga to English. Sometimes when I see the intention to translate to French, I may give some translators some help.
Well, only one I remembered is Takasugi Kou. But it was quite some time ago.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 8TB

8TB

Member
Dec 24, 2023
341
2,266
Well, only one I remembered is Takasugi Kou. But it was quite some time ago.
He's still going strong. Black and Whites are getting harder to immerse especially in the advent of such life-like 3D art, but there are still artists whom I consider incredibly proficient (e.g. Oda Non, Oltlo, Bifidus, Special G, Kishizuka Kenji, Enma, HGTLab etc.) At the very least, they're good reads in the interim of the postponed and delayed releases.
 

mickeymcd30

Member
Sep 13, 2022
304
1,886
While I am that 8TB, I am not related to him, so your guess would be as good as mine would be.



Part of the reason I like Immoral Desires is because of my intimate relationship, for lack of better terms, with Kuroneko's work, Oba-san no Karada ga Kimochiyo Sugiru Kara. The archetypes are pretty much the same, that is, Daniel and Kousuke (Ko-chan) are two peas in a pod. Both series reflect an Oedipal and Male Power fantasy. Both Kyouko and Lana are the older, incredibly busty, pushover maternal objects, who are often dominated sexually by their younger male partners. The difference is that Kyouko and Kousuke are aunt and nephew; furthermore, Kousuke is blackmailing his aunt into having sex--though, the implications of this blackmail are quite soft, given that it's clear that Kousuke has no intention of actually causing any trouble for his aunt. When translating the work, I made sure to highlight the differences in their speech where Kyouko is more formal and polite, and Ko-chan is more rough and nonchalant. I think their speech lends well to their diametrically opposed attitudes and sentiments on sex. I just wished Immoral Desires reflected a bit more of this as well.

Katherine from Mandologica's Forbidden Flames curses a lot, but the difference here is that she's a character who's been established to have a bad temper. It actually lends itself well to their interactions because it provides more nuance when she "softens up" during her interactions with her son, Ben. Lana stating, "what the fuck?" and "Yes, Yes, Yes, I feel like a slut, and it feels liberating,"? I understand wanting to convey her letting loose, but why is she talking like that? Surely there are better ways to word her "liberation." But who knows? Maybe it's just I. I grew up in a time when children didn't curse in front of their parents, and parents spoke with a certain sophistication. If Lana wasn't slated as some "morally upright" character, I probably wouldn't have much problem with it, in the same way I don't have a problem with Katherine's speech. But Daval did set her up with a particular demeanor, and her dialogue has done little to nothing to service it.
Thanks for the reply. I appreciated it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 8TB

mickeymcd30

Member
Sep 13, 2022
304
1,886
Don't worry. I don't have any intention of not finishing. And the reason it's been taking me so long, is that I often go back and see where I could've done things different or better. I'm neurotic that way. So there are times, I don't work on it at all because I figure the works are already translated. The comic merely bears the luxury of less censorship. Even though it's taken a while, I still find time here and there to do some editing on the work.

And I would love to get into contact with Daval3D and give him what I feel, in my opinion, are pointers on how to improve the dialogue. I would even do it for free, at this point.
Do you have a Discord account. I'm one of his friend. I maybe able to persuade him to contact you for improving his comic dialogues. Are you ok with it, just in case?
 
  • Like
Reactions: 8TB

8TB

Member
Dec 24, 2023
341
2,266
Do you have a Discord account. I'm one of his friend. I maybe able to persuade him to contact you for improving his comic dialogues. Are you ok with it, just in case?
I haven't logged into discord in a while, but I go by the name 22TB on discord. I'll have to see if I remember my login.
 
  • Like
Reactions: mickeymcd30

mickeymcd30

Member
Sep 13, 2022
304
1,886
I think after this foursome in SN story, Daval should focus more again the story between Liam and Amanda (with sideline sex scene or story with Alexa). I think by doing this, the story will go back to its glory days like we saw on chapter 1-6.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Demion99 and 8TB
4.80 star(s) 5 Votes