4.80 star(s) 5 Votes

8TB

Member
Dec 24, 2023
303
2,017
A comic is not just about reaching the goal, which in this case is that Aron gets with Sara, or David gets with Alice, but also enjoying the journey that leads us to them. Together, it has many possibilities to generate that. Daval with ID has to create a goal and a path that the spectator can enjoy. For example: Lana's husband prepares a romantic dinner, and Lana feels guilty, and that romantic dinner gives her enough willpower to refuse what Daniel asks of her, which puts a pause on the sex. Lana will try to resume her role as a mother, and Daniel will play along acting like a good son. Imagine a dinner where Lana is serving food, and Daniel slowly runs his hand over Lana's skirt, touching her backside. Lana is surprised, and the dad asks if something happened? Imagine all the scenes of Lana feeling uncomfortable in housewife clothing.
Daniel can't convince her to have sex with him again. Daniel tries to make her uncomfortable in front of her husband, but nothing works. Lana feels nauseous during dinner and goes to the bathroom. The husband asks Daniel what is wrong with your mother. Daniel replies that he has no idea. Daniel says he will go see his mother to find out what is wrong. Daniel asks Lana if she is pregnant, and Lana denies it, asking Daniel to leave her room. The husband appears and asks her what is wrong, love. Lana replies that she just ate something that didn't sit well. That night, when everyone is asleep, Lana goes to the bathroom and takes a pregnancy test. Lana's worst nightmare comes true; she is pregnant. Lana, angry and in tears, wonders why this had to happen just as she was rekindling her relationship.
The example I gave is one of the many plots that Daval can take with ID; the members do not want a harem, nor do they want another male character to interfere. Daval has few options; if the story becomes just meaningless sex, that will tire even the most loyal follower of ID sooner or later. How many times has Daniel come? xD
Immoral Desires, I assume, is a cash-cow for Daval, so I don't believe he's in any rush to end it; in fact, I'd argue the opposite, i.e. he may stretch it out for as long as he can, even if it means Lana and Daniel having more, as you so adequately put it, "meaningless sex." I think if Lana's getting pregnant is a prospect Daval would seriously consider, then he'd likely save that for the final one or two chapters of this series. And with an end in mind, the question becomes, how will it end? Will he tie the story up with a neat bow, will he just give up on trying to please everyone and create what he truly wants, or will he wait out the majority of current Immoral Desires fans, and retool the series to suit the fetishes with which he, I presume, is more comfortable (e.g. NTR, BSDM, Voyeurism, Corruption, etc.)? Personally, I would hope it'd be the first one, but don't be surprised if it's the last one.
 

grk el grande

Newbie
Dec 18, 2023
58
172
I wonder if Sara will try to look for David, although I doubt it with Alice around, and I'm sure Aron would question Sara about why she cares more about David than her own son. I would like some scenes of the four of them having dinner, and how Sara feeds Aron, and Alice feeds David. Imagine if David asks Sara to help him go to the bathroom, xD imagine Aron's face, he would surely tell her that she is his mother and doesn't have to do that for him. Aron will look for an excuse and tell his mother to help him instead. Sara won't be able to say no to her son. Those are the scenes of jealousy or interactions that make me prefer (together), is my favorite of the three.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 8TB

Terror77

Member
Aug 15, 2017
224
2,007
It was pretty funny at first but then I found it a little weird that so many Peter fans couldn't tell the difference between Aron David and Daniel (Daniel, a character from another comic) and now they think that Daval's new comic called Peter is TO hahaha now I think I know why they like the old man, they identify with it
 
  • Like
Reactions: J0K3RXXX and 8TB

8TB

Member
Dec 24, 2023
303
2,017
It was pretty funny at first but then I found it a little weird that so many Peter fans couldn't tell the difference between Aron David and Daniel (Daniel, a character from another comic) and now they think that Daval's new comic called Peter is TO hahaha now I think I know why they like the old man, they identify with it
You hit the nail on the head, Terror. I mentioned something similar sometime back. Whenever I saw comments along the lines of, "Peter is better than David, he fucked Sarah better..." I'd always think to myself, "No he didn't." If one pays attention to Chapters Four through Six, they're virtually the same as Chapters One through three, just with a different male. And there seems to be an unusual preoccupation among Uncle Peter's fans with his penis size. Now, granted it's no secret that I've mentioned liking Uncle Peter's scenes with Sarah better, but that's not because I like the old-geezer, young beauty dynamic in particular, although I can't deny that plays some role. I like it mostly because he's her uncle, and she's his niece. I like the power-dynamic; I like that Sarah was deferential and obedient toward Uncle Peter, which is understandable because again, he's her uncle. I also like adult incest, which is rare. Most of these male characters despite the disclaimers look like minors. And while I'm no where near old enough to identify with Uncle Peter entirely, I'm not young enough to identify with David, either.

By that very same token, Terror, perhaps the controversy surrounding Uncle Peter's inclusion outside of Daval's dishonesty with his initial intentions is that a majority of the audience don't identify with Uncle Peter. Most of the male audience is probably in their late teens and early twenties. Of course they wouldn't identify with Uncle Peter. There are some facets of Uncle Peter with which I can indentify, i.e. cold and calculating, and I have siblings with children--my eldest nephew, a young adult, probably being the same age as many of those who even post on this thread. I'm not particularly interested in this Peter comic, though I've obviously seen the first released pages since I used the nurse in my rankings. Honestly, if Uncle Peter is not with Sarah, I don't really care what he does, or whom with. I like the incest, I don't care about an old fart pounding young nurses.
 

Terror77

Member
Aug 15, 2017
224
2,007
You hit the nail on the head, Terror. I mentioned something similar sometime back. Whenever I saw comments along the lines of, "Peter is better than David, he fucked Sarah better..." I'd always think to myself, "No he didn't." If one pays attention to Chapters Four through Six, they're virtually the same as Chapters One through three, just with a different male. And there seems to be an unusual preoccupation among Uncle Peter's fans with his penis size. Now, granted it's no secret that I've mentioned liking Uncle Peter's scenes with Sarah better, but that's not because I like the old-geezer, young beauty dynamic in particular, although I can't deny that plays some role. I like it mostly because he's her uncle, and she's his niece. I like the power-dynamic; I like that Sarah was deferential and obedient toward Uncle Peter, which is understandable because again, he's her uncle. I also like adult incest, which is rare. Most of these male characters despite the disclaimers look like minors. And while I'm no where near old enough to identify with Uncle Peter entirely, I'm not young enough to identify with David, either.

By that very same token, Terror, perhaps the controversy surrounding Uncle Peter's inclusion outside of Daval's dishonesty with his initial intentions is that a majority of the audience don't identify with Uncle Peter. Most of the male audience is probably in their late teens and early twenties. Of course they wouldn't identify with Uncle Peter. There are some facets of Uncle Peter with which I can indentify, i.e. cold and calculating, and I have siblings with children--my eldest nephew, a young adult, probably being the same age as many of those who even post on this thread. I'm not particularly interested in this Peter comic, though I've obviously seen the first released pages since I used the nurse in my rankings. Honestly, if Uncle Peter is not with Sarah, I don't really care what he does, or whom with. I like the incest, I don't care about an old fart pounding young nurses.
It's good that you don't care, but in my case I do care and many old subscribers, since Daval sold you a product and then betrayed his fan base, if he had been honest like his VIP comics full of shotas and NTR it would be different, but when everyone realized how he works, that he has no idea what to do in the next pages, everyone asks him for (his fetishes and threatens to unsubscribe) and criticizes him, Daval wanted more money quickly than he would have obtained with the same base, but he stopped being a good comic creator to become a crazydad3d 2.0, whatever they pay him a few dollars more or be your friends, he renders that.
 

Dustellar

Well-Known Member
Aug 22, 2016
1,369
2,652
It's interesting how Daniel says that making his mom his slut was a dream for years, when he only got interested in her recently, he's probably lying or Daval forgot his own plot, wish they explored more of that big rift that existed between them before the story started, because again... he literally used to call his mom by her name, they were in bad terms until Daniel noticed her body.
 

8TB

Member
Dec 24, 2023
303
2,017
It's good that you don't care, but in my case I do care and many old subscribers, since Daval sold you a product and then betrayed his fan base,
It's not really an issue of my caring or not caring. I acknowledge that he was dishonest, if your description of how Uncle Peter's conception occurred is as you stated. If you want my honest opinion, I don't think there was really a "peter81." I think that was just an alias so that Daval can shoehorn uncle Peter in while having an excuse to fallback on once controversy ensued. Think about it, he created THREE full-length chapters focusing on this Uncle Peter/Sarah narrative, despite the fact that the entire time the majority of the audience was in an uproar. At anytime, he could've refunded the money to this Peter81, and renege on this supposed arrangement to include this Peter's likeness, especially if it meant alienating his paying customers. And now, Peter is getting his own comic. Do you really think that's because one guy made one large payment one time?

(Note: Sarah at the end of Chapter Six pretty much figured out Uncle Peter's deception, and suspects he's lying about his disease, and yet he's still at her house, why?)


if he had been honest like his VIP comics full of shotas and NTR it would be different,
I agree. No one makes a fuss about his other VIP comics because they know what they're getting from the beginning.

but when everyone realized how he works, that he has no idea what to do in the next pages, everyone asks him for (his fetishes and threatens to unsubscribe) and criticizes him,
While Daval isn't a terrible writer, I would say that he operates with a "one-track" mind. Too many of his plots lack nuance, and are overly simplified. I suppose it can't be helped much given his ambitious nature. When you spread yourself too thin, something is bound to suffer.

Daval wanted more money quickly than he would have obtained with the same base, but he stopped being a good comic creator to become a crazydad3d 2.0, whatever they pay him a few dollars more or be your friends, he renders that.
As unfortunate as it would be to have a crazydad3d 2.0, that is Daval's prerogative. If he wants to sell his material on the platform of debaucherous, NTR-loving, voyeuristic, free-for-all, meaningless sex, then that's his right. It's incumbent upon the paying customers to dictate whether or not they're going to support this platform. After all, his artistic skills, borrowed assets notwithstanding, are his skills.
 

grk el grande

Newbie
Dec 18, 2023
58
172
The members were angry with Daval for the inclusion of Uncle Piter, which is understandable. (Together) he was introduced as a comic with two protagonists, Aron and David. We all knew that at some point in the plot, Aron would take center stage, and surely no one would mind for the simple fact that he was presented from the beginning. In fact, I'm almost sure that if Uncle Piter hadn't made his appearance, Aron would have appeared much earlier. But for better or worse, Pieter gained many fans, so many fans that they pay for a VIP subscription just to see him, so Daval had to give him his own comic.
 

lordstark8603

Newbie
Dec 19, 2024
18
10
In fact, I met Daval through Satisfying Needs and then I discovered Inmoral Desire and Together, very good stories. Maybe Uncle Peter has a lot of fans, but I prefer David to stay with Sara. She already admitted that she loves her nephew. In fact, in chapter 7 she became jealous of her friend Silvia.
 

grk el grande

Newbie
Dec 18, 2023
58
172
Piter is still in the house, but from what I understand, Daval commented that Piter would not touch Sara (nothing sexual), which angered the fan base of Uncle Piter. And as I mentioned above, Daval gave him his own comic. Daval returned to his initial idea with David and Aron, now introducing the second protagonist (Aron). Many still say that David is the protagonist, but if David is the protagonist, why did Daval make Aron Sara's son? It would be much better to give him a daughter and that would solve the problems. What I don't like is that they want everything to be for David; they want a threesome for David, then David's mom comes and David sleeps with her, then a quartet for David. What happened to sharing? I imagine what they want to see is Sara, Alice, David's mother, in a quartet, with Aron watching from afar. And they say they don't like NTR. When they asked Daval what it was about, he commented that it was about sharing.
 

grk el grande

Newbie
Dec 18, 2023
58
172
Uncle Pieter will no longer touch Sara, that is a fact, since he already has his own comic. I believe his role in the house will only be that of a counselor. That is why Daval brought Luke, so that Uncle Pieter doesn't try anything with Sara, because there would be no way to prevent it without Luke. For all those who are "afraid" that Pieter will touch Sara, there is nothing to worry about.
 
4.80 star(s) 5 Votes