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It's not because of laziness, per se, though that can't be ruled out. It's a means of integrating the descriptions. The notion of "blood relation" naturally comes up in subjects of incest, but not generally. In other words, it may be important to those of us who read incest comics where pleasure is derived from consanguinity, but as far as the subject of family, blood relationships as well as legal relationships are streamlined with single terms.



No, your point doesn't stand. His uncle's wife is, by definition, his aunt. Just like how Alice and David refer to Luke, Sarah's husband, as "uncle Luke" and not "uncle-in-law Luke."



It "can" be, but generally is not the case.



Because "nephew" doesn't necessarily signify blood relation.



This is categorically false. If Martha divorces her husband, she would still be the mother of John's cousin, which by definition, would make her John's aunt.



Yes, she specified which side of the family the term nephew was being applied, she did not however negate the fact that he was her nephew.

Again, what's the argument, here? I stated that Martha gave her nephew a blowjob, and you sought to clarify an unnecessary qualification. You know they're not blood related; I know they're not blood related. The term I applied can be employed in circumstances where John is her sibling's son OR John is her spouse's sibling's son, which in this case is true through her husband Steve. So what are you trying to correct?



I must admit that this is perhaps one of the the most fascinating, yet pointless exchanges I've ever had. I suppose that's inevitable in discussions over lexicon and semantics.



I would agree with that.



Rosa mentions having a son in chapter five of Immoral Desires, when Daniel surprises Lana at the supermarket. As far as Martha's son, I personally hope he stays out of the picture. It would be difficult to glean any meaning in a tryst between he and his mother since it would appear her intent is solely to get-off, whether it's with her nephew, his friend, or Daniel. It would just be sex with her son, just to show her having sex with her son. Then again, I'm not at all invested in Martha even as a character, so that may be coming into play here.



Jealousy also stems from a sense of propriety; Jealousy also stems from proprietary notions; it's not just that Daniel is jealous because he loves his mom. He's jealous because he want her to be his. He's already jealous of his father (Oedipus Complex); giving Lana multiple lovers would make Daniel what? Jealous squared? It makes no sense.



Then why would Daniel prioritize Sofia over his mother, driving Lana into the arms of a neighbor's son, as you suggested before? And though I can't be sure of the contact Sofia and Daniel will have after Sofia discovers his sexual relationship with his mother, Daval's message appeared to be an attempt to put out the fire ignited by the ire of the majority of the fan base, who's against the idea of Sofia being involved with Daniel sexually.




Of course it matters. If Sofia didn't care about her friendship with Lana, she would have fucked Daniel then and there at the pool when he was massaging her. Why is Sofia sneaking around behind Lana's back trying to have sex with Daniel? Daniel is presumably an adult; Sofia is presumably an adult. Sofia's sneaking around as a reconciliation between her sexual frustration and her friendship with Lana. She doesn't want to offend Lana by having sex with her son, so she decided to conspire with Martha to have sex with Daniel while keeping Lana in the dark. One can't just make up rules and not be observant because "it's a porn comic."



No, it's just a change, or as Jack_Zy would put it, "cutting out the thread, and replacing it with a new one."



I'm into what it purports to be, and that's a mother-son incest comic. I never said that there's a lot he can do. Just like there isn't much a pizzeria can do outside of pizza. I'm not going in there and asking for burgers. Those who enjoy the mother-son incest theme seldom care about how long it drags out, because they're engaged for the mother-son theme itself, not just the sex, which in itself isn't enhanced when the scope of sexual partners is expanded.



You may think this makes sense considering everything that has happened up to this point, but it really doesn't. It just seems to be a contrived way to have Lana and Daniel have different sexual partners temporarily for reasons (?) while attempting to placate Lana and Daniel fans by the end of it. You're trying to have your cake and eat it, too. This is almost similar to what Daval did with uncle Peter in Madness Together. That is, have Sarah have a temporary tryst with her uncle only to then drive her back into David's arms. But here's the thing, Madness Together's story is a mess, and the fans are still pissed at Daval to this day for Uncle Peter's inclusion. Why would Daval risk doing something similar in Immoral Desires?

I ask once again, why attempt to shoehorn nonsensical plots? Why not just come out and state, "I don't want Immoral Desires to be just about Daniel and Lana having sex"?



I made it no secret that, at least as far as Immoral Desires is concerned, that I'd like for the sex to remain between Daniel and Lana. But that's not the reason I state that your scenario doesn't make sense. Your scenario completely disregards everything that has happened up unto this point; it disregards Daniel's obvious sentiments toward Lana in comparison to other women with whom he has had contact; it disregards Lana's sense of propriety; it disregards Sofia's friendship with Lana. It appears just to be a means to an end; that is, in order to see Lana and Daniel have sex with other people, let's have Sofia blackmail her, even though Sofia is supposed to be her friend; let's have Daniel be obsessed with Sofia, even though she's not as attractive as Lana; let's have Lana have sex with a neighbor's kid just to occupy her time while Daniel is obsessing over Sofia; and then let's bring Daniel and Lana back together by the end of it, and not question the reason they had to have sex with other people during their temporary separation which happened because of "reasons," and claim that it's a path to love through jealousy even though the jealous angle has already been explored in Chapter 8.



On this, we agree. I don't think Rosa has appeared naked in any of Daval's content. We haven't even seen her in a swimsuit. The closest we've come in seeing Rosa's body was in chapter three, I believe, when she sported nightwear when spending the night at Lana's:

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And note that Daniel didn't give Rosa a second thought despite her appearance, other than the fact that her presence was inconvenient in his advances toward his mother.
At the end of the day the blood related relationship is what matters and makes the difference no matter if you like it or not, thats my point from the beginning.

Shes absolutely not his aunt, you can say it technically at best but by proxy they ain't shit :BootyTime:
 
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I was the opposite - originally I was super into SN, I dug the simple harem plot. Didn't really care about ID at that point but now it's the opposite. Each spoiler for Satisfying Needs I just get more and more disappointed. Adding in a creepy dad that molests his sleeping daughter and a gremlin was definitely a choice. I'm just gonna pretend SN ended at Chapter 6 and ignore everything other than ID.
I would've dug the simple harem plot, too. I think Daval introduces these "kinks" every few chapters or so to test whether or not the audience has become acclimated to his fetishes. I mean, after watching Liam mine for coal in Emma's anus, what possible pleasure could I glean from watching Emma have sex with her father? What will she do with her dad that she hasn't done with Liam? And if her blood relationship to her dad is intended to qualify an added meaning to their sex, then why would that hold if she was willing to let someone, albeit not a stranger, who isn't related to her sodomize her because some woman whom she barely knows goaded her into it? Don't get me wrong, I know that these plot devices are meant to create convenience, but sometimes I'm baffled by what some authors think they can get away with unnoticed.

And now, that little gremlin, as you so aptly put it, is heading toward Amanda, Alexa, and Liam. My working theory is that Amanda is going to notice the leprechaun making a B-Line for their room, since she's sitting on the couch facing the window while Liam is sodomizing her sister; Amanda and Liam will rush to get dressed while Alexa stays behind to "run interference" because she's the "slutty aunt," resulting in an actual sexual encounter this time. Another working theory I have is they're going to let gremlin into the room, since Alexa is recording them, and get him to incriminate himself on camera and remove him as a threat for good. I'm usually wrong about this stuff, so I in fact hope that I'm speaking these events into "nonexistence."

At the end of the day the blood related relationship is what matters and makes the difference no matter if you like it or not, thats my point from the beginning.

Shes absolutely not his aunt, you can say it technically at best but by proxy they ain't shit :BootyTime:
I think we should end our exchange on this subject matter here. I don't think I can let this thread suffer any more from the "Aunt-Nephew Wars of 2024." I've obviously not done a good job at convincing you, and I doubt you'll be able to convince me otherwise. Just for the sake of our communication, note that when I use the terms, "aunt, uncle, niece, or nephew" I'm referring to the description which includes consanguineous and non-consanguineous relations; and I'll make sure to note that when you use the terms "aunt, uncle, niece, or nephew" you're referring to a strict blood-relationship.
 

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I see that daval is succeeding, he is changing his fan base both on his paid pages and in forums since the harem / momson followers are not so active anymore and those of NTR Cucks making many theories about how to introduce their fetishes, I thought that daval would leave the harem at level 10 receiving Sn and ID without NTR or old but apparently his fetishes are so much towards that side that he wants to show them that by force, someone told me a long time ago that daval was part of y3df something that I have not been able to verify but it seems to be true, how the Y3df comics started always mom son and in the end he would introduce NTR for the cucks and end up making a shitty milkshake of sex that makes no sense to me and I think some of them are no longer worth anything, their work is poor quality and consistency, constant delays in updates and above all their word is worthless.
 
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I wonder if there will ever be a day where daval's ID is adapted into a game. I'd like to see that.
Daval had a goal on SubscriberStar that was if he reached $5,000 a month he would hire a programmer to make visual novels or even games (too bad I didn't take a screenshot of that but I know I'm not the only one who remembers) and what do you think? He reached his goal and nothing, just another lie.
 
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