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DitaVonTease

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m4dsk1llz said:
Honestly I have better things to do than pixel peep your images. I even said that low resolution images and forum posted images are acceptable with denoiser, but rerender these at 4K/6K/8K and cut off at 5 minutes then denoise. Or add more than a single character and single HDRI background and do the same test. That would really show you what a denoiser can and can't do. Also I would never advise someone not to spend their money on a better GPU if that is what they want to do. I didn't ask you to dump your GTX1050Ti, nor would I ever. My biggest objection to your post is not your artwork (which I like, by the way) it is your insistence on saying "without any quality loss."

Heck when I started with DAZ I only had an AMD RX570 so you could image that nearly every render was an overnight job, especially since it was CPU only. Every render was 1280P at the most. It wasn't until I had a 1080Ti that I started doing HD renders, and then it wasn't until a second 1080Ti, did I do any 4K renders.

I am also not saying everyone should go run out and buy a RTX3090/3080/3070, because that is ridiculous if you aren't making any money to recoup your investment, or you have some discretionary income, but I don't discourage others from buying one either.

In the end I am not trying to pick a fight with you, like I said, I like you images and I am still learning DAZ, so a lot of my renders might be faster but that doesn't mean mine are any good.
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I totally agree with you, my problem with the ''Great God Denoiser Brigade'', or is it the ''Peoples Front for Denoiser'', is the total 'THOU MUST DO'' attitude, as if it's the only way to render, & that doing something different make you some sort of ''Abomination unto Nuggan''. I've tried several things over the years, including going back to the abacus, oddly that didn't work. What does work is finding what works for you & your machine, at the end of the day it's the finished image that matters. Using the ''GGDB/PFfD'' option is like the average poster paint mess of a 3 year old, compared to the 'Mona Lisa' of an Artist who has the patience to learn their tools, even if they don't use every trick they know to 'improve' the image, because it's often not needed. Often the two most important tools available, are the least used, the Human Brain & Patience. At the end of the day is it better to have two pictures your really happy with, that could be printed to A0 size without a loss of quality, or 100 renders that barely look good on a computer screen, & are only good enough to print up as small postcards.......I'll leave you all the time you need to work out the best way for you, & to the ''Great God Denoiser Brigade/Peoples Front for Denoiser'', remember what happened to all the 'Flat Earthers'.....
 
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Fotsirk said:
Picture A was rendered in 5mins and denoised. You can tell when you zoom in that image A has lost some quality compared to Picture B (it's blurrier and has lost some details). Without zooming in, however, you are correct in that they are almost identical and certainly acceptable for posting here.
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I think that Night Hacker has made his point. Picture A was NOT denoised. The title of the picture was "Wanda_at_the_Beach_-_45m.png". So, it took 45 min. to render. Picture B title was "Wanda_at_the_Beach_-5m.png". My assumption was that Picture B WAS denoised, thus took 5 minutes to render, and picture A, NOT denoised and took 45 min. to render.
 
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This time, I didn't even bother trying to upload the 4k.
Also, I might want to stay away from DoF blur during render. Takes forever and a half and I'm not convinced it's as good as Nik's collection's filters that are lightning fast while still trying to emulate a proper camera/lens combo.


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But I DO need to find a better skin/freckles combination. I really don't like how the skin looks here and the freckles? That's just like someone spray painted them on her.
 
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DitaVonTease

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atheran said:
This time, I didn't even bother trying to upload the 4k.
Also, I might want to stay away from DoF blur during render. Takes forever and a half and I'm not convinced it's as good as Nik's collection's filters that are lightning fast while still trying to emulate a proper camera/lens combo.


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But I DO need to find a better skin/freckles combination. I really don't like how the skin looks here and the freckles? That's just like someone spray painted them on her.
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A really cute character, & nice to see slim natural girls, here. Have you tried

  • Ultimate Freckles for Genesis 8 and 3 Females and Males by philw
 
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InfamousRebel said:
I've got a better rig coming next month and plan on expanding my learning curve, there's a lot of assets you'd need, It's quite a long list. What I do is look at Daz3d vendors like Zeddicus for morphs, glute utilities is a must and body diversity allows you to add shape that don't increase or decrease breasts allowing you to mould them to your taste. I love the skins on Vicey3d's figures from renderosity and some of them also have body shapes I like to work with that enhance areas like the glutes etc. with some realistic results. Deviantart has free morphs from people like Magnus1781, TritiumCG and more. Tenen71 has some free full characters including skin and some which include hair. I'm still learning myself, I know what I like and can pull shapes that please my eye, I just can't incorporate scenes and more than one character on this absolutely tin pot laptop.
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Thank you my friend for giving me a direction with so many asset reference. I would definitely play around with these assets and morphs and hopefully will come up with my own dream character :love:

Thanks and would love to see more from you !!
 
Night Hacker

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Deathstrike2 said:
I may be old and half blind, but I'm not seeing a difference.
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Tell that to the others in here. I just posted clear evidence backing up what I said, and they still argue against it. Whatever. My advice is aimed at those of us who do not have deep wallets and are stuck with a low end card and FHD 1080P rendering. I just posted the proof and they ignore it.

What else can I say? I posted my own honest tests with an HDRI background (as one of them suggested, my tests uses an HDRI background) and the proof is in them.

I'm not saying everyone should use it, if you have the hardware and t he time to wait, by all means, avoid denoising, you probably get fast renders anyhow, but for the rest of us, denoising is a fast alternative which produces some really nice results, really fast and for me, as seen in my example I posted, I see NO DIFFERENCE. Period.

Also notice I wasn't attacking anyone in MY POSTS, I originally posted in order to help someone who was having slow render times and MY post was attacked by the anti-denoising zealots in here. I didn't attack anyone, I tried to help, but I may not bother to help anyone again in here if this is what I get for my efforts.
 
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