VN Ren'Py DeadMoon Survival [v0.9.1] [Hot Tomato]

[V&M]

I only see selfishness here, how many of you have supported the game so far? Did you even read what the developer wrote? What did he explain? The reason for removing the content? Or for you it's, fuck the developer, just do what we want, it doesn't matter if you're happy with it or not.
It could be that he did a good job (on the zombie content), but he was doing something he didn't like, do you really think he could force himself to do something he didn't like much longer? That he would manage to maintain quality by doing something he didn't like?

 

[gilgamesh9]

I only see selfishness here, how many of you have supported the game so far? Did you even read what the developer wrote? What did he explain? The reason for removing the content? Or for you it's, fuck the developer, just do what we want, it doesn't matter if you're happy with it or not.
It could be that he did a good job (on the zombie content), but he was doing something he didn't like, do you really think he could force himself to do something he didn't like much longer? That he would manage to maintain quality by doing something he didn't like?

He's an adult making a game as a job. You have to do things you don't like sometimes when you work... Stop with the simping BS. He says this then that blah blah blah. If that were the case he NEVER should have made it to begin with and yet put more effort into the monster scenes then making it anywhere with his INCEST. Then making a poll to get peoples hopes up just to say well Na i dont wanna like a baby. But to each their own its a trend theses days with devs constantly changing what "THEY" want to do.

 

[V&M]

He's an adult making a game as a job. You have to do things you don't like sometimes when you work... Stop with the simping BS. He says this then that blah blah blah. If that were the case he NEVER should have made it to begin with and yet put more effort into the monster scenes then making it anywhere with his INCEST. Then making a poll to get peoples hopes up just to say well Na i dont wanna like a baby. But to each their own its a trend theses days with devs constantly changing what "THEY" want to do.

Man, I don't know, maybe he forced himself to do it to see how it would go, but maybe he didn't get enough supporters to keep doing something he didn't like. I know you lost supporters, that's normal, "but", many people don't download and much less support a game with these themes, even though they are avoidable. Whether it will get more supporters now only time will tell, but I believe more people will at least try the game now without this content.
If he feels better and happier that way, so be it, it's better that he does something he likes than we see this game in the "abandoned" category on this site.
As for the NTR content (the zombie rape I don't count as NTR), the actual NTR, I don't know if it will continue (past scene, which I thought was pretty hot), I don't have a problem with NTR, and in this case it was well done .
Let's see how the game will be going forward.

 

[gilgamesh9]

Man, I don't know, maybe he forced himself to do it to see how it would go, but maybe he didn't get enough supporters to keep doing something he didn't like. I know you lost supporters, that's normal, "but", many people don't download and much less support a game with these themes, even though they are avoidable. Whether it will get more supporters now only time will tell, but I believe more people will at least try the game now without this content.
If he feels better and happier that way, so be it, it's better that he does something he likes than we see this game in the "abandoned" category on this site.
As for the NTR content (the zombie rape I don't count as NTR), the actual NTR, I don't know if it will continue (past scene, which I thought was pretty hot), I don't have a problem with NTR, and in this case it was well done .
Let's see how the game will be going forward.

Yea and i get all that but he insulted what supporters he had left after already losing almost half with this decision. The NTR didn't so anything for me and I love NTR because it was just flashback BS that wasn't important but that's also because this people all have twisted differences in what NTR is. It's part of why i followed a select few even this dev. But everyone is changing their games or doing remakes these days. Not many committed devs anymore that actually follow things through, but I rarely if ever voice my opinion on patreon because it doesn't matter which he proved by spitting on the poll HE made.

 

[JojodoLolo]

He's an adult making a game as a job. You have to do things you don't like sometimes when you work... Stop with the simping BS. He says this then that blah blah blah. If that were the case he NEVER should have made it to begin with and yet put more effort into the monster scenes then making it anywhere with his INCEST. Then making a poll to get peoples hopes up just to say well Na i dont wanna like a baby. But to each their own its a trend theses days with devs constantly changing what "THEY" want to do.

Exactly!! Dev put a lot of effort on the gangbang scene, but then he suddenly cut it off... The rape scenes become less frequent makes sense, but why remove completely?? Let's be honest he just fucked up acting on impulse. If something feels like it's been made forcefully it is the NTR scenes WTF is that flashback dream shit??? Completely different from Elizabeth's character.

 

[char_2.0]

I only see selfishness here, how many of you have supported the game so far? Did you even read what the developer wrote? What did he explain? The reason for removing the content? Or for you it's, fuck the developer, just do what we want, it doesn't matter if you're happy with it or not.
It could be that he did a good job (on the zombie content), but he was doing something he didn't like, do you really think he could force himself to do something he didn't like much longer? That he would manage to maintain quality by doing something he didn't like?

It was expected that the number of supporters would drop if you remove their content, which is why they became patreons in the first place.
"Don't fuck with your fan base", learn from the shit that Disney is doing, for God's sake.

 

[punisher2099]

The zombies are still a threat in this game except they do what zombies do, eat people. Bad ends can still be possible but the consequences are greater because the characters can die. People are just throwing a tantrum because they can't get their FMC gangbang scenes.

 

[zyf19925]

I don't know if this is a fresh perspective: I liked the zombie scene because they are canon. Unlike most other vanilla games the uniqueness of this game (before 5.0) is that bad things happend to the main cast, and it has an effect. That's what makes it interesting. Hard and bad thing are more emotionally relating because they are realistic unlike a good happy ending anybody who has a life know that's fake and unrealistic. So I really like every thing done before 5.0, I don't even like the zombie scene in 5.0 which was the bad end scene, because it is so fake, the story doesn't continue after that so you are like.. yeah that's definitely not part of the story, it doesn't belong here. All the previous zombie rape scene are good, because the story continues after, you know the main female is hot, you are trying to get with her, but she has to hide the fact that she got raped by the zombies, and got groped by the employee dude behind her loving husband's back, those emotions are hot and real, because she has to live with those, it creates a twist in her which makes her real. so when the actual sex happening to her you feel it's real. Fear, shame, embarrassment induced sex scene is a lot more real that those sex scenes you can simply explained by, oh those people just went horny shit. That's my perspective. I hope the author can see this and realize you shouldn't throw something good away.

 

[punisher2099]

I don't know if this is a fresh perspective: I liked the zombie scene because they are canon. Unlike most other vanilla games the uniqueness of this game (before 5.0) is that bad things happend to the main cast, and it has an effect. That's what makes it interesting. Hard and bad thing are more emotionally relating because they are realistic unlike a good happy ending anybody who has a life know that's fake and unrealistic. So I really like every thing done before 5.0, I don't even like the zombie scene in 5.0 which was the bad end scene, because it is so fake, the story doesn't continue after that so you are like.. yeah that's definitely not part of the story, it doesn't belong here. All the previous zombie rape scene are good, because the story continues after, you know the main female is hot, you are trying to get with her, but she has to hide the fact that she got raped by the zombies, and got groped by the employee dude behind her loving husband's back, those emotions are hot and real, because she has to live with those, it creates a twist in her which makes her real. so when the actual sex happening to her you feel it's real. Fear, shame, embarrassment induced sex scene is a lot more real that those sex scenes you can simply explained by, oh those people just went horny shit. That's my perspective. I hope the author can see this and realize you shouldn't throw something good away.

See you're looking at this like its a FMC game like she's going back to her husband/boyfriend/significant other and she has to hide she was fucked by others. This is a male mc game its about him and his development things that happen that he doesn't know about don't contribute to that.

 

[zyf19925]

See you're looking at this like its a FMC game like she's going back to her husband/boyfriend/significant other and she has to hide she was fucked by others. This is a male mc game its about him and his development things that happen that he doesn't know about don't contribute to that.

Yet we do get the perspective of the FMC and the sister alone, so in fact this is not a male MC only game, this game has three protagonists, the whole family is the MC, from your narrow definition would only allow character development for the male MC but in fact the game develops all three of them, you see the personality development of the mom and the sister, even their thoughts changes. The biggest example is the FMC gets gang raped by zombie, the boy doesn't know that, it is only describing the FMC's experience, so from your perspective you would think that is just a piece of porn that does not relate to the story at all and contributes nothing to character development, yet from my perspective I would feel that that is part of the story and would play a role in later development of the story. I don't know if that's what the author intended, but I think my perspective would give more flesh the story

 

[dolfe67]

See you're looking at this like its a FMC game like she's going back to her husband/boyfriend/significant other and she has to hide she was fucked by others. This is a male mc game its about him and his development things that happen that he doesn't know about don't contribute to that.

This is a multiple protagonist game. It's 90% male MC, but you can make a few decisions for the mother and the sister.

 

[JojodoLolo]

The zombies are still a threat in this game except they do what zombies do, eat people. Bad ends can still be possible but the consequences are greater because the characters can die. People are just throwing a tantrum because they can't get their FMC gangbang scenes.

Ohh now I understand what you mean by FMC and that's what I didn't like in the NTR scene it felt like another game, about the gangbang scene I didn't even like it to be honest he even added a futa zombie, it seemed endless idk. I was just questioning Dev's decisions. In the end I just hope he keeps making the game.

 

[rudy007]

Interesting. On the beginning of the thread 70% of all posts are negative about rape/gangbang scenes. Result; Dev removes those scenes. Aftermath; 70% of all post are pro gangbang/rape scenes. People, dev said game is around MC&mom&sis. Rape scenes are only to create negative feelings. What do we do? Yes, of course, embrace negative feeling.
The game is the like it was, but without those scenes. Mom is still mom, sis is still sis. MC is... we don't know yet... Ah, yes, zombies are still there. But, there are other people too. I hope we trade with them, not move to them. Mom know about they? It would be strange if not. What are they secret? It must be something if mom didn't mention them...

 

[YogSothoth1982]

Yet we do get the perspective of the FMC and the sister alone, so in fact this is not a male MC only game, this game has three protagonists, the whole family is the MC, from your narrow definition would only allow character development for the male MC but in fact the game develops all three of them, you see the personality development of the mom and the sister, even their thoughts changes. The biggest example is the FMC gets gang raped by zombie, the boy doesn't know that, it is only describing the FMC's experience, so from your perspective you would think that is just a piece of porn that does not relate to the story at all and contributes nothing to character development, yet from my perspective I would feel that that is part of the story and would play a role in later development of the story. I don't know if that's what the author intended, but I think my perspective would give more flesh the story

In my case I have prevented all the rapes from happening, so the evolution of the characters, in my case, is similar whether they exist or not. I actually like to avoid rapes, so their existence were a plus, but not because I had any intention of seeing them. On the other hand, I haven't seen any of the dreams/flashbacks either (nor I'm interested in knowing anything about what happens in them).

 

[ramonetis]

Another game with the potential to offer a story for adults and with different options, and in the end the developer kneels down to cry babies and turns the game into yet another more generic vanilla work.

 

[Ak-19]

imho the game won't last long, and it's all the author's fault

 

[Ak-19]

Another game with the potential to offer a story for adults and with different options, and in the end the developer kneels down to cry babies and turns the game into yet another more generic vanilla work.

100% agree hope the cry babies are happy now

 

[V&M]

Want to sell me the crystal ball? I'm needing to win the lottery here. Since she can see the future, it works, right?
They call others whiners, but they do exactly the same thing.

 

[rudy007]

I know this post will be not too popular. But you people start actually a witch hunt on a dev. Nobody has any proof what/if patreon say something to Hot Tomato. They all go to barricades. Because threads like this developers are thinking twice before joining here. I saw that some devs don't really wont that their newest update is here. I think, even without gangbanging/rape zombies, this is as vanilla game still pretty good. There are worse game I paid or just downloaded. Much, much worse. I will continue to pay for it. Hot Tomato is probably not the best diplomat, but I don't think that's his profession. He needs only his imagination to create this game, nothing more. And I know he can tell the story.

 

[JB08]

So do I play the old build or the new one? Im new and all I see are complaints and two versions of the game and I dont know the difference.