VN Ren'Py Completed DeadMoon Survival [v1.0] [Hot Tomato]

[mulerider]

At the beginning it was important to create the self-centeredness of this group of three people in an apocalyptic world in order to provide an explanation for the breaking of social and biological rules, but now the game, or perhaps better the story, is in danger of failing because of this.
You're right when you say - incest, more incest and then more incest - it's getting tiring and not really anything new.
The game isn't shit like you say, it's still far better than many other games and I still enjoy playing it. But I'm starting to ask myself where it's headed now.
"when everything went to shit" - I assume for you that was the time when the zombie rapes were removed from the game. The problem is, according to the author, they were not relevant to the story but only an end in themselves. Rape of women was made into the game's theme, for the developer's customers who like that sort of thing. (I would like to expressly say that I am not judging anyone for their fetishes!)
The idea of rape as an expression of a driven evolution of the zombies could have been told in a story-relevant way, but it was never planned that way (author's statement!).
At this point, you can really say that the author has replaced a non-existent vision or direction of the game with "no" (at the moment recognizable) vision/new direction.
The basic idea of the game still supports the story, but for me the signs of wear and tear, purely emotionally, were clearly noticeable in the eighth update that was just released.

For all those whose toes I'm stepping on with my post - I won't back down from it. It is a personal judgment that I make based on my reading experiences and life experience and therefore cannot be seen as the absolute truth.

That's the whole point right there, the survival of both (the living vs the dead/zombies) sides. the zombie were just trying to do the same thing as the living, trying to repopulate and make their clan(side) bigger, better and stronger. and the zombies figured out that if they breed the living females the could get specials out of them which is why they kill the males and take the females back to their nest to breed them. now, is any female going to do that willingly, hell no, which is the reason for the zombie
sex/rape scenes.

 

[OhGodNotAgain]

That's the whole point right there, the survival of both (the living vs the dead/zombies) sides. the zombie were just trying to do the same thing as the living, trying to repopulate and make their clan(side) bigger, better and stronger. and the zombies figured out that if they breed the living females the could get specials out of them which is why they kill the males and take the females back to their nest to breed them. now, is any female going to do that willingly, hell no, which is the reason for the zombie
sex/rape scenes.

It makes me happy the dev isn't going to bring that garbage back and you will spend the rest of your life crying on this thread.

 

[Raziel_8]

That's the whole point right there, the survival of both (the living vs the dead/zombies) sides. the zombie were just trying to do the same thing as the living, trying to repopulate and make their clan(side) bigger, better and stronger. and the zombies figured out that if they breed the living females the could get specials out of them which is why they kill the males and take the females back to their nest to breed them. now, is any female going to do that willingly, hell no, which is the reason for the zombie
sex/rape scenes.

Leaving aside if this was ever the devs intention.

You give the normal zombies quite a lot of intelligence which isn't ever hinted at.
The idea that single bite infects but rape and gangrape not just makes no sense.
Then there were female zombies around, so they do bite them, just the main LI's not for reasons.
And either the zombies have all a severe case of dementia, or no one told them of the plan to take females to their nest and actually keep them there, for said breeding...

 

[OhGodNotAgain]

Leaving aside if this was ever the devs intention.

You give the normal zombies quite a lot of intelligence which isn't ever hinted at.
The idea that single bite infects but rape and gangrape not just makes no sense.
Then there were female zombies around, so they do bite them, just the main LI's not for reasons.
And either the zombies have all a severe case of dementia, or no one told them of the plan to take females to their nest and actually keep them there, for said breeding...

Don't bother the poster is putting on a display of horrendous mental gymnastics to justify their rape fetish.

 

[mulerider]

Don't bother the poster is putting on a display of horrendous mental gymnastics to justify their rape fetish.

Well if you had bother to take the time to read the dialog/story instead of just skipping over it to get to YOUR incest fetish,
you would have read the part where the mother was explaining to the kids what she seen when she was last out in town, telling
them she the zombies killing the men and raping the women, then taking the women back to their nest/hive, then telling the
kids that she thinks that is where the specials are coming from, the zombies breeding the living females. Try reading it. lol

 

[PaxHadrian17]

At the beginning it was important to create the self-centeredness of this group of three people in an apocalyptic world in order to provide an explanation for the breaking of social and biological rules, but now the game, or perhaps better the story, is in danger of failing because of this.
You're right when you say - incest, more incest and then more incest - it's getting tiring and not really anything new.
The game isn't shit like you say, it's still far better than many other games and I still enjoy playing it. But I'm starting to ask myself where it's headed now.
"when everything went to shit" - I assume for you that was the time when the zombie rapes were removed from the game. The problem is, according to the author, they were not relevant to the story but only an end in themselves. Rape of women was made into the game's theme, for the developer's customers who like that sort of thing. (I would like to expressly say that I am not judging anyone for their fetishes!)
The idea of rape as an expression of a driven evolution of the zombies could have been told in a story-relevant way, but it was never planned that way (author's statement!).
At this point, you can really say that the author has replaced a non-existent vision or direction of the game with "no" (at the moment recognizable) vision/new direction.
The basic idea of the game still supports the story, but for me the signs of wear and tear, purely emotionally, were clearly noticeable in the eighth update that was just released.

For all those whose toes I'm stepping on with my post - I won't back down from it. It is a personal judgment that I make based on my reading experiences and life experience and therefore cannot be seen as the absolute truth.

I think that the dev is showing us a story in transition, but I think we will need several more rev's and the associated story to be released to see the transition through.

I view it as a train taking a curve at speed and hoping that the tracks are well laid out and the railbed has a solid foundation so that the train does not derail.

The male MC is evolving into something more and this will change not just him but the way he interacts with both women in his group.

I think that the writing has been solid for much of Deadmoon Survival and I'm curious and hopeful that, by the time we reach the end of 2024, the dev will have shown us a well told transition and the MC, Elizabeth and Juliet will have a new group dynamic that makes sense with the transition completed.

Cheers!!

 

[hzjujk]

I think that the dev is showing us a story in transition, but I think we will need several more rev's and the associated story to be released to see the transition through.

I view it as a train taking a curve at speed and hoping that the tracks are well laid out and the railbed has a solid foundation so that the train does not derail.

The male MC is evolving into something more and this will change not just him but the way he interacts with both women in his group.

I think that the writing has been solid for much of Deadmoon Survival and I'm curious and hopeful that, by the time we reach the end of 2024, the dev will have shown us a well told transition and the MC, Elizabeth and Juliet will have a new group dynamic that makes sense with the transition completed.

Cheers!!

It is still possible. I hope the developer has more ideas than incest and possible rape as hinted at in the last cliffhanger.

 

[dolfe67]

If incest is too quick it's not believable, if it's too slow it becomes boring to some. The balance is hard to find, if there is any. For now I like it

 

[Deleted member 6866577]

Three updates from when everything went to crap, no new direction or new vision he said wanted to go to like he claimed,
just more incest and more .....incest ... and again more..........incest .......lol yeah, he's really doing something new here.

Ah! Dude quite it, this will change nothing, more than 80% people like this game, now im confused.
I'm not losing my mind, am I?
Or it's just that I have poor taste, that's why i don't like this game, everyone almost everyone here like this game.
You know I have played 100+ VN just in honey select 2/AI Shoujo.
And this game it's one of my "most not liking" game, you can see yourself in comments how many people like this game and how many not.
And this will changed nothing!!!!!
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!

 

[Tyson Mikel]

Ah! Dude quite it, this will change nothing, more than 80% people like this game, now im confused.
I'm not losing my mind, am I?
Or it's just that I have poor taste, that's why i don't like this game, everyone almost everyone here like this game.
You know I have played 100+ VN just in honey select 2/AI Shoujo.
And this game it's one of my "most not liking" game, you can see yourself in comments how many people like this game and how many not.
And this will changed nothing!!!!!
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!

You're right though I seems to noticed almost all the comments is positive about this game.
Eh, whatever I quit.

 

[Azi VonVeil]

those tags scare me...can you avoid all dick? is there rape content?

 

[mulerider]

those tags scare me...can you avoid all dick? is there rape content?

No you can not avoid the dick , you have no choice but to let the worthless piece of shit boy bang the the mother and sister anytime he pleases, and no there is no rape content, the dev kiss the asses of the FEW whiny asses that cried about it even though the scenes were completely avoidable, so he removed those scenes

 

[Azi VonVeil]

No you can not avoid the dick , you have no choice but to let the worthless piece of shit boy bang the the mother and sister anytime he pleases, and no there is no rape content, the dev kiss the asses of the FEW whiny asses that cried about it even though the scenes were completely avoidable, so he removed those scenes

i cant tell if your serious or fuckign with me....
"you have no choice but to let the worthless piece of shit boy bang the the mother and sister anytime he pleases,"
" and no there is no rape content,"
seem like counter intuitive phrases...

 

[Raziel_8]

i cant tell if your serious or fuckign with me....
"you have no choice but to let the worthless piece of shit boy bang the the mother and sister anytime he pleases,"
" and no there is no rape content,"
seem like counter intuitive phrases...

The boy in question is the MC, no he doesn't rape anyone. There isn't any rape content anymore, not sure if the dev plans to add it with human survivors.
As for ntr, that is flashbacks only, as of now at least. IIRC it's from years before the story starts, i don't play it, so you would need someone else to answer question, but the choices are clearly marked and easily avoidable.

As for the counter intuitive phrases.
Some here are still pissed that the dev removed zombie rape over a year ago and say that was what the story was really all about (and feel the need to let everyone know how shitty the game is now)...even if the dev clearly disagreed, explained that it never was the plan and the focus was always the MC/mother/sister relationship ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Thy Fallen One]

The boy in question is the MC, no he doesn't rape anyone. There isn't any rape content anymore, not sure if the dev plans to add it with human survivors.
As for ntr, that is flashbacks only, as of now at least. IIRC it's from years before the story starts, i don't play it, so you would need someone else to answer question, but the choices are clearly marked and easily avoidable.

As for the counter intuitive phrases.
Some here are still pissed that the dev removed zombie rape over a year ago and say that was what the story was really all about (and feel the need to let everyone know how shitty the game is now)...even if the dev clearly disagreed, explained that it never was the plan and the focus was always the MC/mother/sister relationship ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

People also like to lie or not read that it was the dev that wanted the zombie rape gone. And they cant blame the dev because that is the main argument they like to use (let the dev do what they want). But when it is what the dev wants to remove they are still stuck in ( the dev kiss the asses of the FEW whiny asses that cried about it even though the scenes were completely avoidable) This is what one year how is this going on. If they are so mad about it and liked the game before how are they so misinformed about the situation.
Every update we get more people complaining about it when it is a dead topic. Starting to think complaining about the removal of the zombie rape should get its own thread. dev laid out multiple reasons for the removal and did a poll that came out people wanted it to stay and they still removed it so
DEV DID NOT WANT ZOMBIE RAPE and said it was a mistake and didn't want people thinking that is what the game is about. That is why they were removed instead of left in.

 

[mulerider]

i cant tell if your serious or fuckign with me....
"you have no choice but to let the worthless piece of shit boy bang the the mother and sister anytime he pleases,"
" and no there is no rape content,"
seem like counter intuitive phrases...

Sorry to break it to, you but I'm 100% dead serious

 

[Ruykiru]

Well if you had bother to take the time to read the dialog/story instead of just skipping over it to get to YOUR incest fetish,
you would have read the part where the mother was explaining to the kids what she seen when she was last out in town, telling
them she the zombies killing the men and raping the women, then taking the women back to their nest/hive, then telling the
kids that she thinks that is where the specials are coming from, the zombies breeding the living females. Try reading it. lol

We spread a little misinformation

(It wouldn't be if the game was still on update 0.5, but come on... We are already on 0.8 and that stuff is no longer canon.)

I finally decided to report you cause the only thing you do is complain in this thread but luckily for you they denied the report. I guess we are stuck with you, but it gets kinda amusing sometimes. Especially because it's quite ironic that the one complaining 24/7 about a "whiny ass" MC and the removal of zombie rape is actually the whiniest person here.

It makes me happy the dev isn't going to bring that garbage back and you will spend the rest of your life crying on this thread.

So yeah, I couldn't agree more with this guy.

 

[OhGodNotAgain]

No you can not avoid the dick , you have no choice but to let the worthless piece of shit boy bang the the mother and sister anytime he pleases, and no there is no rape content, the dev kiss the asses of the FEW whiny asses that cried about it even though the scenes were completely avoidable, so he removed those scenes

Ah so now we get to the root of the problem you're fucking jealous of some fictional character. Seek professional help now. Even the devs own words aren't enough to get through to you. You're definitely "special" aren't you?

 

[OhGodNotAgain]

I finally decided to report you cause the only thing you do is complain in this thread but luckily for you they denied the report. I guess we are stuck with you, but it gets kinda amusing sometimes. Especially because it's quite ironic that the one complaining 24/7 about a "whiny ass" MC and the removal of zombie rape is actually the whiniest person here.

Same here. It's kind of ironic if this were an ntr debate the mods would have put an end to this shit ages ago(warnings, thread bans, etc.)

 

[Azi VonVeil]

ok so there WAS rape, but it was removed(i idea of a brain dead zombies still even being able to rape was always silly to me) but there is a description of women begin raped(no longer cannon? as in not in the game)
and you are unable to avoid sex with the male MC? like at all?