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artofwar

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Honestly mate you have completely killed the pacing of the game by including truly pointless laptop and phone bloat. These aren't really games, they're stories told in visual form. The clue is in the name; Visual Novel. You need to think: Does this *add to the story?* Does this *take away from the story?*

Being forced to click through random shit takes you right out of the story, missing out on anything because you haven't clicked the buggy mess in just the right way takes away from the story.

Imagine you're reading a book and halfway through the second half locks itself, magically, and you're told that you need to finger fuck random words in order to get past the interactive portion of the book. Then do it every couple of pages, but now instead of locking there's an ominous line reading: if you don't do this, some pages are going to be blank. That's essentially what you're doing here and your story is suffering for it.

When I first came across it my immediate thought was: oh no. Then, this looks pretty neat. Then, half an hour later, it was how the fuck do I progress through the game because it keeps kicking me back to the laptop. Imagine my surprise when I needed to place a fucking bet in order to stop that bullshit coming up. Seriously what was so wrong with the bet on x/bet on y prompt?

The worst part is that any and damn near all information contained in the laptop and phone bits could have been told organically - even in a near identical manner, just by providing pictures of conversations instead of an interactive browser.

I'm sure it took you a lot of effort to do it and it's presented nicely. It just doesn't fit the genre, nor does it make for an enjoyable experience. These games are already interactive enough, with some yes/no options and narrative forks. Some ideas are just bad and unless you're a genius then reinventing the wheel is one of them, especially when you're supposed to be working on getting the car running.
 
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NateGrey

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Well, all the other ladies from all the other games, are wonders of nature, since they have perfect tits from teens to late 80s....
Novel idea, actual boob job in adult game. :D
Actually, Good Girl Gone Bad had an optional boob job. The funny thing was you could of course get it in the porn actress/webcam/slut route, but also in the loyal girlfriend/good student with a side office job route :LOL:
 

Thermophob

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Actually, Good Girl Gone Bad had an optional boob job. The funny thing was you could of course get it in the porn actress/webcam/slut route, but also in the loyal girlfriend/good student with a side office job route :LOL:
Yes, you are right. I have usually played her marring rich guy, and getting knocked up by him (I am getting the vibe Steph will go this path). But I kind a forget about it. Also, there are slave management games, but this is first time where a girl in comited relationship to MC is quite open, not to say insisting on boob job herself. :D From police officer to kinky trophy housewife. :D
 

WhitePhantom

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Yep, and once again, if you don't take the depraved option you miss out on the scenes. No foot rub or extra kiss if you don't go bimbo Steph. I mean is it just me, or is there some kind of agenda here? :WeSmart:
You're fulfilling her own dream. Steph can talk about wanting surgery twice before you even mention it. She's also jealous of the "bimbo" lifestyle, hence why she gets mad at the girls on TV not being grateful that they're experiencing it.

So yeah, if you fulfil what is her own fantasy she thought she could never afford, she's going to treat you differently and going to try and please you more than if you don't.

We're also not talking about turning her into a plastic doll here, you can see the before and after pictures, it is a boob job and some minor changes here and there. She isn't getting lips the size of fingers etc.

I'm sure there are some people that would love to Bimbofy Vanessa, some people that would love to put a collar on Ellie, and people who want Connie to suck you off in the Office. Not every character has the route you want, I've learnt from trying that in SoM and what a mistake it was.

So if you want a vanilla relationship with a non-kinky character, there is one sitting in your office in Ellie and her innocent path.
There's also Vanessa, who has a loving vanilla path, and if you want to help Steph because of her abusive past, Vanessa had it horrifically worse off if you listen about Tiffany's Dad and then look at her age. So if there's anybody that truly deserves a loving happy relationship, it's her.
 

mr.AwesomeGameTaste

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You're fulfilling her own dream. Steph can talk about wanting surgery twice before you even mention it. She's also jealous of the "bimbo" lifestyle, hence why she gets mad at the girls on TV not being grateful that they're experiencing it.

So yeah, if you fulfil what is her own fantasy she thought she could never afford, she's going to treat you differently and going to try and please you more than if you don't.

We're also not talking about turning her into a plastic doll here, you can see the before and after pictures, it is a boob job and some minor changes here and there. She isn't getting lips the size of fingers etc.

I'm sure there are some people that would love to Bimbofy Vanessa, some people that would love to put a collar on Ellie, and people who want Connie to suck you off in the Office. Not every character has the route you want, I've learnt from trying that in SoM and what a mistake it was.

So if you want a vanilla relationship with a non-kinky character, there is one sitting in your office in Ellie and her innocent path.
There's also Vanessa, who has a loving vanilla path, and if you want to help Steph because of her abusive past, Vanessa had it horrifically worse off if you listen about Tiffany's Dad and then look at her age. So if there's anybody that truly deserves a loving happy relationship, it's her.
how does boob job makes this non vanilla romantic relationship tho? I mean Steph won't change her personality as well right?
 
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WhitePhantom

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how does boob job makes this non vanilla romantic relationship tho? I mean Steph won't change her personality as well right?
No it won't change her personality, but it won't be vanilla because Vanilla Steph is "Police Officer Steph with no kinks".

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critter

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Go on the Whistle app on her PC, you can read all the sordid details of her and her sisters (or not). I believe if you access the program you can then close it without reading it all.
Thanks for your answer but this doesn't break the circle on her PC or on the MC's PC (even if I read everything).
I think it's caused by the missing flag error in the lift just before the office-scene.
 

MrFriendly

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Thanks for your answer but this doesn't break the circle on her PC or on the MC's PC (even if I read everything).
I think it's caused by the missing flag error in the lift just before the office-scene.
Hmm... Are you using a mod? I never encountered an error and have done 3 runs of the game so far. I'm curious how you ended up where you are, not that I want to replicate it. :)
 

mr.AwesomeGameTaste

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No it won't change her personality, but it won't be vanilla because Vanilla Steph is "Police Officer Steph with no kinks".

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Well that changing her personality along with boobs bit was more of a joke on my part,thanks for confirming it tho. As for this being Vanilla or not it depends what the term vanilla means to you. I think everybody have at least some basic kinks,while slave roleplay and flirting with watersports is beyond vanilla ,daddy roleplay is so popular now that I honestly consider it vanilla at this point. ofc since you are the one making this game you set the rules and what each path consists of. Thank you for answering and for making this amazing game.
 

Canto Forte

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So .. the solution is to not do anything for that bimbofying surgeon who poaches gurls to sink her hands inside them.
I keep Ellie safe, I keep Steph safe, I am not going to endorse someones heartless handy work in the gurls I love.
Umm, yeah so that's why you go with the bimbo/plastic option because that's who and what Steph is? Really great logic there... :rolleyes: What's the point of having choices then? Pretty sure the dev said there were other paths for her as well.

My question is related to content and not whether I should choose her as a LI or not.
Well, all the other ladies from all the other games, are wonders of nature, since they have perfect tits from teens to late 80s....
Novel idea, actual boob job in adult game. :D
Actually, Good Girl Gone Bad had an optional boob job. The funny thing was you could of course get it in the porn actress/webcam/slut route, but also in the loyal girlfriend/good student with a side office job route :LOL:
Yes, you are right. I have usually played her marring rich guy, and getting knocked up by him (I am getting the vibe Steph will go this path). But I kind a forget about it. Also, there are slave management games, but this is first time where a girl in comited relationship to MC is quite open, not to say insisting on boob job herself. :D From police officer to kinky trophy housewife. :D
You're fulfilling her own dream. Steph can talk about wanting surgery twice before you even mention it. She's also jealous of the "bimbo" lifestyle, hence why she gets mad at the girls on TV not being grateful that they're experiencing it.

So yeah, if you fulfil what is her own fantasy she thought she could never afford, she's going to treat you differently and going to try and please you more than if you don't.

We're also not talking about turning her into a plastic doll here, you can see the before and after pictures, it is a boob job and some minor changes here and there. She isn't getting lips the size of fingers etc.

I'm sure there are some people that would love to Bimbofy Vanessa, some people that would love to put a collar on Ellie, and people who want Connie to suck you off in the Office. Not every character has the route you want, I've learnt from trying that in SoM and what a mistake it was.

So if you want a vanilla relationship with a non-kinky character, there is one sitting in your office in Ellie and her innocent path.
There's also Vanessa, who has a loving vanilla path, and if you want to help Steph because of her abusive past, Vanessa had it horrifically worse off if you listen about Tiffany's Dad and then look at her age. So if there's anybody that truly deserves a loving happy relationship, it's her.

Now I know there are 3 gurls to throbb for and will keep my saves ready.
 
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Canto Forte

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There is one wt mod - music included for the last version - 0.9
Is there a current walkthrough for the new update?
Walkthrough alone ends at 0.9 - by then your paths are already chosen - you follow the gurl you chose in 0.9.
Thee is one wt mod 4 the 0.10 version also.
 

critter

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Hmm... Are you using a mod? I never encountered an error and have done 3 runs of the game so far. I'm curious how you ended up where you are, not that I want to replicate it. :)
With or without mod ... the error and the loop stay the same.
 

Canto Forte

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You wanna see what surreal dreamy bimbo transformation looks like, try this game:
https://f95zone.to/threads/moniker-smiths-bloodlines-v0-17-moniker-smith.43442/
I've just read the surgery thing. It's priceless! Steph will get a boob job hahaha :LUL:
Oh boy that's so original. I've never seen that in any other game actually.
I know it will complicate things having to keep two separate paths for her, but I'm really looking forward to seeing how it works out.
Then come back and make a more .. kink infuzed ... appreciation of what is going on in this game.
 
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