rogirum

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31 year ago people like Mulan made foundation for this war. They weren't evil in a way people think about "Hitler" (to be fair Hitler never was evil in simple comical way people like to believe) But they put their own wealth above people who gave them power and money. To put it simply, they were president level frauds. The only difference is that Mulan is a pebble next to mountain.
Mmmm, sovkоdrocher moment
 
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I think what [B]impossibleis7[/B] is meaning is why the amount of pure hatred on this board?

I believe that a creator/author should be providing truthful updated information to their fanbase or more specifically the areas that actual funding is provided (I.E. Patreon) and not drop off the face of the earth for long periods of time without warning.

I understand the anger towards Mulan but I this this has blown out of hand, Every time I see a new post it's people complaining about the situation or attacking someone who had something good to say.

I was introduced to this game a couple of months ago (May) and was expecting this board to be like usual boards where if a player needs help in the game they can get the answers here. That is not the case for this board. This board is focused on updates, the creator's status and defunding propaganda. I am just as disappointed in this board as I am in Mulan's lack of communication/game updates. (Yes, I understand the contradictions in my own statements).
Really ? I usually see Mulan's white knights attacking anyone that dare criticize the game than the other way around. Ignoring actual criticism with "you didn't pay for it so your opinion is not valid and you must support the author".
 
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Really ? I usually see Mulan's white knights attacking anyone that dare criticize the game than the other way around. Ignoring actual criticism with "you didn't pay for it so your opinion is not valid and you must support the author".
Recent posts seem to be back and fourth at this point. Either way I'm very dissatisfied with this board. I will keep an eye on the game's status some other way.
 

FavenXXX

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I think what [B]impossibleis7[/B] is meaning is why the amount of pure hatred on this board?

I believe that a creator/author should be providing truthful updated information to their fanbase or more specifically the areas that actual funding is provided (I.E. Patreon) and not drop off the face of the earth for long periods of time without warning.

I understand the anger towards Mulan but I this this has blown out of hand, Every time I see a new post it's people complaining about the situation or attacking someone who had something good to say.

I was introduced to this game a couple of months ago (May) and was expecting this board to be like usual boards where if a player needs help in the game they can get the answers here. That is not the case for this board. This board is focused on updates, the creator's status and defunding propaganda. I am just as disappointed in this board as I am in Mulan's lack of communication/game updates. (Yes, I understand the contradictions in my own statements).
This man answered and said everything to the point and spoke out perfectly! :)
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Since you quoted my messge, are you saying that you wish him and his people death and fear as well, like the other guy? Is that what you are saying? Take your own example. At the end you wish the store employee death?

You guys are acting like the guy is Hitler.

I am a patreon of his, unsubscribed because of the all the drama, but re-subscribed with the war because hopefully even the $5 I give him, helps him in someway in this life threatening situation.

Am I dissapointed with the guy's lies, broken promises, etc, etc? Absolutely. Do I wish any harm on him? Absolutely not.

Now do I feel treated fairly? I dont know. I think many people have repeated this many times over the year in the same thread, but I'll have a go at this.

So I'll take one of my other patron situations . I monthly donate around 50 USD to a couple of animal rescue orgs/people, one even on Patreon. I donate the same amount on Share the Meal app as well. Now, Share the Meal thing is more orgnaized obviously, it even shows where my money went to etc. Some of the animal rescue orgs send me mails about rescues but not regularly. But regardless of the situation, I dont expect anyone to go full time about it (they most likely are volunteers themselves), any progress is good, and I would like to help in the manner I can. Would I like all these animal shelters to be like Share the Meal program? Absolutely, and imo they would benefit a lot in doing so as well. But they are what they are, and they do what they can. Hopefully this will help you see the situation in a different light.

Now what we have with anyone you support on patreon is the same situation. When I initially played Defenestration, I liked it. I wanted the guy to keep working on this project, so I started supporting him. Doing a monthly donation. The thing is I am not paying for Defenestration, not for a product, I am donating the guy, so that hopefully he can focus on his project. There are creators I support who deliver on time pretty consistently and there are others, who earn way more than Mulan while taking forever, perhaps even longer than Mulan. There are patrons like me, there are those who are paying for the product and there those who only subscribe when the update drops and cancels right after.

So do the patrons feel fairly treated? I dont know, I can only speak for myself. I feel pretty annoyed when he cancells an update right after he annonces it. Much much more annoyed when he goes silent, months at a time. I think you guys all share the same sentiments right? But the only things I expect for the amount I donate/gift are some progress updates preferrably regularly, and I guess that it. Unless I put the update here myself, I download the update just like you guys from f95.

So please dont justify your anger because of me.



So are you telling me that I dont have the right to express my opinion?

I dont know whether you have lived under any wartime situations. I have. You dont wish it on a person.

And why the fuck are you angry with me for, lol?
This person also expressed an opinion , but did not understand what was being said to him and went to the insults of the interlocutor ! :(
He began to accuse the interlocutor slandering the interlocutor ! With such expressions ↓ What kind of aggression is this towards people ? Do you wish harm to those who disagree with your opinion ?

Since you quoted my message, are you saying that you wish him and his people death and fear as well, like the other guy? Is that what you are saying? Take your own example. At the end you wish the store employee death?

You guys are acting like the guy is Hitler.
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Are you feeling all right?
If it 's okay, then tell me where did I say a bad word ? ( Answer: THERE'S NOTHING THERE THAT YOU SAID!)

Tell me where in my words I wished at least someone something bad ? (Answer: Not here, not in my other comments, I didn't say anything bad to anyone and didn't want to! )

Why would I do that ? That 's right , why are we all people and should remain so !!!

Why are you slandering your interlocutors ? NOT GOOD !

For those who have not read what I have written (Briefly what I said: I said that if you are treated as a buyer without respect, a person should be able to spance the seller when the seller does not respect the client. That 's it! )

The author shows no respect (For a long time there is no news without whining and FOR a VERY LONG TIME THERE is NO UPDATE of the GAME + Rescheduling the update for an unknown period!) THESE PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN WITH THE AUTHOR FOR YEARS !!!

So are you telling me that I don't have the right to express my opinion?

And why the fuck are you angry with me for, lol?
I didn 't tell you that you can 't express your opinion !!! WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???

WHY ARE YOU SO AGGRESSIVE TOWARDS YOUR INTERLOCUTORS ???
YOU SLANDER WHAT KIND OF AGGRESSIVE ???
YOU NEED TO BE CALMER.

If you haven 't read even the very beginning of what is written about , then why are you speaking out aggressively ???

You said that one person spoke out aggressively.

I just answered you in a detailed explanation
that he just spoke out sharply because the author has not been credible in recent years !!!
And you started hitting on me and started slandering me !!! NOT GOOD !!!

And why the fuck are you angry with me for, lol?
The most important thing ! Have I ever said that I'm angry or hate ???
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FRIEND???

I just made a detailed comment without insults and even more so without aggression !!!

But you started throwing yourself at me and accusing me of different things. eh:(

What are you mad at lol.
That's what I have to say! :)
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FavenXXX

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Really ? I usually see Mulan's white knights attacking anyone that dare criticize the game than the other way around. Ignoring actual criticism with "you didn't pay for it so your opinion is not valid and you must support the author".
Yes, there are such defenders here if you don't praise the game constantly, always every day, then (Oh, you can't speak out like that, you can only praise, but you can't do everything else!) :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
And if you don't pay every day then (Oh you don't pay your opinion shouldn't be!) :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

vessna

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btw, someone who played v0.4.9.3a, can ya continue the game after the "Prison Break" quest? cause i have
"Failed to load img/pictures/MQ_13_Poster.png" cause there isn't one in pictures folder Sadge, do ya have the same problem?

btw, anyone knows what's the Virable for Breasts and Ass sizes?
 
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impossibleis7

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This man answered and said everything to the point and spoke out perfectly! :)
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This person also expressed an opinion , but did not understand what was being said to him and went to the insults of the interlocutor ! :(
He began to accuse the interlocutor slandering the interlocutor ! With such expressions ↓ What kind of aggression is this towards people ? Do you wish harm to those who disagree with your opinion ?




Are you feeling all right?
If it 's okay, then tell me where did I say a bad word ? ( Answer: THERE'S NOTHING THERE THAT YOU SAID!)

Tell me where in my words I wished at least someone something bad ? (Answer: Not here, not in my other comments, I didn't say anything bad to anyone and didn't want to! )

Why would I do that ? That 's right , why are we all people and should remain so !!!

Why are you slandering your interlocutors ? NOT GOOD !

For those who have not read what I have written (Briefly what I said: I said that if you are treated as a buyer without respect, a person should be able to spance the seller when the seller does not respect the client. That 's it! )

The author shows no respect (For a long time there is no news without whining and FOR a VERY LONG TIME THERE is NO UPDATE of the GAME + Rescheduling the update for an unknown period!) THESE PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN WITH THE AUTHOR FOR YEARS !!!



I didn 't tell you that you can 't express your opinion !!! WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???

WHY ARE YOU SO AGGRESSIVE TOWARDS YOUR INTERLOCUTORS ???
YOU SLANDER WHAT KIND OF AGGRESSIVE ???
YOU NEED TO BE CALMER.

If you haven 't read even the very beginning of what is written about , then why are you speaking out aggressively ???

You said that one person spoke out aggressively.

I just answered you in a detailed explanation
that he just spoke out sharply because the author has not been credible in recent years !!!
And you started hitting on me and started slandering me !!! NOT GOOD !!!


The most important thing ! Have I ever said that I'm angry or hate ???
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FRIEND???

I just made a detailed comment without insults and even more so without aggression !!!

But you started throwing yourself at me and accusing me of different things. eh:(

What are you mad at lol.
That's what I have to say! :)
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I am a bit puzzled. When was I ever aggressive towards you? I never said that you wished anyone harm, only a couple of questions, answering your question, pointing out the irony in one of your own statements and only that you seem to cater some anger towards me, because for some reason you are shouting in my face. And what expressions?

Perhaps you are new to this, but writing something in capital implies that you are shouting/demanding at someone's face. The only reason for this would be is, if you are angry at someone. If you want a point emphasized, without shouting, write it in bold, or italized or some other stylized manner.

I feel like what we have is a communication mishap. But lets see...

Also about
Or do you want to say people don't have the right to express their opinion.
Imo, this is one of the worst rhetorical questions (used by many; perhaps this type of thing is called something else). Because if you are asking this question against someone else's opinion, it will always backfire. Because the "people" part, unless the target isnt a person, applies to that someone as well, and unless you meant that, that person cant express their opnions, the question/statement looses all meaning. I personally never use this statement, and probably never will unless I am opressed for expressing my opinions. And in an online thread, pretty much every comment is an opinion or a fact or something of the same fashion.
 
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FavenXXX

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[B]impossibleis7[/B]

If you think I was yelling at you because I typed a few words only in capital letters, then it's not so, but if you think otherwise, it's your business.:)

I am a bit puzzled. When was I ever aggressive towards you? I never said that you wished anyone harm, only a couple of questions, answering your question, pointing out the irony in one of your own statements and only that you seem to cater some anger towards me, because for some reason you are shouting in my face. And what expressions?
Now you have such words ↑

I was a little puzzled when I heard this from a person ↓

Since you quote my message, are you saying that you wish him and his people death and fear as well, like the other guy? Is that what you are saying? At the end you wish the store employee death?
So I said that you are aggressive towards the interlocutor !
When a person is calm, such phrases and comparisons are not as they should not be, and you said that I wish someone something bad, that's where I was puzzled.

Since I just gave an example of the relationship of the seller to the buyer and that's it.

Oh well, everything is fine there are misunderstandings in life where without it :) I don't take offense at anyone, anything happens. You just let's next time without such speeches OK :) someone else might have been offended or angry.

P.S -(This is just my opinion ;))
But the author of this game personally bothered me and his excuses, and after all, every year it gets worse and worse and there are no results.
 
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vessna

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btw, someone who played v0.4.9.3a, can ya continue the game after the "Prison Break" quest? cause i have
"Failed to load img/pictures/MQ_13_Poster.png" cause there isn't one in pictures folder Sadge, do ya have the same problem?

btw, anyone knows what's the Virable for Breasts and Ass sizes?
hah, never mind, just copied the Cell2_KiraPoster.png or something named like that, and renamed it to the required tag... it worked... hahahhah

btw if someone needs Virables for attributes, and sizes to edit on SaveEditor for example:

Lust Virable#4
Charisma Virable#5
Intelect Virable#6
Fame Virable#7

Breasts Virable#12
no idea what virable defines Ass Size and body sizes
 
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impossibleis7

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If you think I was yelling at you because I typed a few words only in capital letters, then it's not so, but if you think otherwise, it's your business.:)
Should be yours too. , read the 6th point. There are certain etiquettes you follow in doing almost anything. Online replies are no different.

So I said that you are aggressive towards the interlocutor !
When a person is calm, such phrases and comparisons are not as they should not be, and you said that I wish someone something bad, that's where I was puzzled.
There are question marks at the end of each of my sentences. Those are questions. Even rhetorical questions at that, because for any regular person the obvious answer to all these 3 questions are a resounding "No". And if your answer is "No" (I dont know because you havent give any), your example is not even related to the comment the other guy made.

If your comment/reply isnt related to anything I said, please dont quote it. If you wish to address me do it like this FavenXXX (username after @).
 
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