this fucking thread
I swear I just tune in every few months to see the shit show
I swear I just tune in every few months to see the shit show
RPGM Defenestration [v0.5e fixed] [Fresh Mulan]
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Game so fire, even the pirate thread has entertaining lore
- May 13, 2019
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Greetings! Apparently Mulan got drafted to the war, so no updates until the total capitulation of either side.
Hey mulan, do we have an ETA for the completion of the vivarium/farm route questline? Really enjoyed the farm content and can't wait to see more
- May 31, 2018
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You are wasting her time that she could use to create a greater quantity of fapping materials, useless pigs you do not deserve to see the creations of my Goddess, she sissified me and stuck a horsedildo in my ass now I live happily thanks to her.
If you are milking them then you are ripping them off which means it's ok to pirate the game. It doesn't matter that it's crowd funded and that a lot of these games have public releases. They want to be morally justified in doing something immoral which is hilarious considering they are pilfering porn. That's the reason the go on and on about that milking bs. Ironically the only reason they are mad is because you aren't milking them fast enough.
- Oct 4, 2018
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- May 13, 2019
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Brother, with all due respect, you are here since 2023. We've all been witnessing this milking fiesta for almost 6 years already. Mulan is talented, no discussion here, but he is also very tricky and dishonest, that's my problem with the guy. He even dared to bring up the war like a reason for his inactivity for 2 years (in reality he wasn't affected by all that stuff). I downloaded the game this summer for the first time since 2021, to check what's changed. The answer is: the game with 20% of the content (100% is the finished game) in 2021 became the game with 24-25% in 2025. It's a loooooong milky way, but eventually you'll see the finished product (SPOILER: he will abandon it when the last supporter finally realise that Mulan was scamming him all that time). Keep white-knighting this slavic fraud. And yes, I was supporting him on patreon back in 2019-2020.
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- Mar 9, 2018
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This war in Ukraine is one big fake.
I'm not defending anyone. Pirates trying to morally justify piracy predates me joining this site. Mulan does make a ton of excuses, they all do. Using the modularity of the scenes as an excuse for inflated development time sounds like a bold faced lie to me because making the scenes modular is typically done to cut time but what do I know, maybe it takes Mulan three years to draw an arm.
Either way I don't care. They could work on the game for an hour every three months and they'd be within their rights to do so because it's crowd funded and they have no obligation to even finish it. It'd be nice if the game got worked on more because the locker convo and the prison break and biscuits made me laugh which is worth more than all the porn in the world but i'm not going to waste my time crying foul when there's more entertainment on the internet than anyone could finish in 10 lifetimes.
If it makes you feel better to scream into the void I can't stop you, you're just giving everyone else second hand bad vibes. I'd rather see memes than grown men complaining about their sore leaky nipples.
If the dev is conscripted that means no more development for years or potentially ever. If true I hope the other dev drops the source code.
l always find it wild people can figure out how to use forums yet have flat earther level takes.
- May 13, 2019
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No dude, that was a joke. He's still free like a bird, and still lazy like a hobo from the nearest train station
- Jun 10, 2020
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Mulan's project management skills are like Tolstoy's lawyering skills: He keeps doing things wrong and somehow they keep working.
Mulan absolutely is a talented individual (Moana as well, her involvement coincides with significant boosts in quality of system design and gameplay improvements), but if you needed a case study in why the Project Management career path exists, Defenestration is the exemplary model. This game lives in a perpetual cycle of "not enough money to necessitate a project manager" and "not enough project management to make enough money".
Mulan is cooked either way.
Mulan absolutely is a talented individual (Moana as well, her involvement coincides with significant boosts in quality of system design and gameplay improvements), but if you needed a case study in why the Project Management career path exists, Defenestration is the exemplary model. This game lives in a perpetual cycle of "not enough money to necessitate a project manager" and "not enough project management to make enough money".
Mulan is cooked either way.
So he is like Hiroo Onoda but instead of going all partisan years after the war ended, he started years before.
Well maybe mulans grandparents went into partisans after 1945, who knows.
- Oct 8, 2022
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Howdy! Here’s what’s up:
We’re still working on both the fast and the major updates, but primarily on the fast one.
The major update requires more text and the fast one turned out not as fast as we hoped, since it required some additional art. That said, I’m almost done layering the new sleep artwork, I just have to finish layering Kira’s new nightgown.
The fast update will be released relatively soon, and then we’ll focus more on finishing the major one again.
To start off, the new sleep event required some new and rather technically complex art, we included it in the fast update poll primary because it isn’t text-heavy.
It’s meant to show Kira’s thoughts on her journey and the change she undergoes mentally based on her stats. We also don’t want it to become annoying or feel like we’re artificially stretching the gameplay, so it will be both short and skippable.
It also adds some visual representation to her changes and her choices. For example, currently it is possible to gain the exhibitionism fetish either from the Chief Officer or naturally (if Kira sleeps without underwear). And now, with the addition of this artwork - you’ll actually see her sleeping nude.
How will it work? Well, by default, Kira will sleep alone, wearing a nightgown and under a blanket.
The blanket can just fall off if her sleep is “restless”, which happens often or if Katya decides to join her - she’ll just remove it. Ideally Katya should start sleeping with Kira after their first official date, but for now - she will just sleep with Kira if they’re dating.
As for the nightgown, the dorm intro will be slightly expanded and Kira will get her first pajama of sorts. We do want to further expand the list of her nightgowns/pajamas in the future and they are treated as full outfits with built-in underwear for the sake of this event.
You will be able to customize how Kira sleeps when interacting with the bed or the clock (we’re still thinking where it would fit better) and while for now you can only pick what outfit Kira wears, this list will further be expanded to include toys and medicine (not just sleeping pills btw).
Above are the pictures that we’re implementing in this upcoming fast update, but I’d like to talk more about our plans for this particular pose.
Me and Moana brainstormed what this pose could need and what our whole “sleeping” concept should become eventually. And here’s what we came up with:
Sex toys - Kira might decide to sleep with a dildo, vibrator, milking machine, etc.
Masturbation - Kira might subconsciously masturbate due to high Lust or someones order
Partners - Kira might be dating someone and they might want to sleep together
Blanket - Would be weird if she just slept without it
Nightgown - Kira doesn’t sleep naked, at least not immediately, so she should wear something
Sex - Many possibilities here.
The artwork had to satisfy all those conditions, which is why I made it the way it is. In the future, if the “sleep event” wins another fast content poll we will start implementing them, and much faster this time around (since we already have the art).
If you’ll like this, then we would also work on expanding this line of events with additional sleeping poses, like bondage or Kira sleeping in a pet-bed.
Working on this sleep event was a challenge, because it has its own outfit, a blanket and a partner. I did my best to make this pose as universal as it can be to minimize the amount of layers/extra coding, but it’s still pretty art-heavy.
It also turned out to be rather interesting to me, I already have some new ideas for how we could utilize both this pose and the new sleeping “routines”. Fun new medicine that could alter Kira’s stats/appearance, more lewd events based on where she sleeps and other similar fun stuff.
As for the major update, it still needs more time and it can’t be finished in a week, so we decided to release another fast update first.
That said, we’re wrapping this fast update up - just have to finish layering the nightgown and test things out to see what feels more fun. Then we’ll fully commit to the major update.
Thank you all for your patience and support, the end is near!
- Oct 8, 2022
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Sleep event is out! The whole idea was to make quick updates with small things that are easy to make, this was absolutely not the case. There’s so much stuff and things that are all tied to “sleep” that we ended up with 11 different versions of sleep and a bunch of blocks that can or can’t happen in a certain order.
I don’t really view this as a problem, it’s just part of the creative work - you get more ideas once you start doing something, but we did some thinking and I believe we identified how this particular situation could’ve been avoided.
So, in a nutshell, there will be some new requirements for the “fast updates” and limits that we’ll enforce on ourselves in order to actually make them fast. We are aiming to make the next update “a major one”, but in case of “taking too long” situation a fast update will come sooner than this time. From other news, we started renting out an office for multiple reasons and I’ll talk in detail about everything in this post. But first, here’s the “sleep” update:
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Note: Saves work, just copy the entire save folder from the previous version into this one.
- New sleeping art for Kira (layered)
By default, Kira sleeps wearing a “nightgown” and under the blanket
Kira can sleep without a blanket
Kira can sleep without panties
Kira can sleep without a bra
Kira can sleep with Katya
All option are customizable via the dorm clock
- Updated the dorm intro to explain all of the above (and fixed some typos)
- Updated all existing instances where something wakes Kira up at the dorm (Party quest, Legion, etc.)
- Updated the natural “no panties” fetish acquisition
Condition: Kira sleeps without panties (“nightgown” ones)
Short daily thoughts from “Lust” for the first 9 days
Mini H-event on day 10 that adds “No panties” fetish to Kira
- Added a first regular intro short “sleep” event
- Added a first short “sleeping with Katya” event
- Added the exhibitionism sleep thought
Condition: Kira has any exhibitionism fetish (Chief Officer events)
- Added the public use sleep thought
Condition: Kira has “public use” fetish (Benevolence training event, New You)
- Added the lactation sleep thought
Condition: Kira is lactating
This one gets extended if Kira has “lactation” Fetish
- Added the cum sleep thought (on face or breasts)
Condition: Kira is sleeping while covered in cum
- Added the creampie sleep thought
Condition: Kira is sleeping with vaginal cum
This one gets extended if Kira has “pregnancy” Fetish
- Moana went through the entire game and fixed all instances she could find where Kira’s dialogue art was still glitching due to Kira saying multiple lines in a row. (This was a huge piece of work that she was doing over the course of multiple months). If you still encounter Kira’s bust glitching, please report this.
Note: The dreams vary in length, some have “first time/second time” logic, others have two different options. For now, the probability of them happening is guaranteed, because the update is about them.
We can add sleeping pills that would just skip the dream part, we can put the dreams on an rng probability or both. It all depends on how you feel about them, so please do share your feedback!
Note:Note: Pretty much everything is tied to “sleep” (quests, events, stats), we had to test and fix the entire game on all routes to ensure that nothing gets broken, but it’s possible that we missed something or that one of our bug fixes broke something else. I hope that’s not the case, but please do report on any bugs you may find.
The sleep event ended up being similar to the shower in terms of complexity. We also did it with future events in mind, events like - sex, subconscious masturbation, sleeping while wearing the milkpump, sleeping with sextoys equipped.
All those options will be added to the alarm clock when we will work on them, which will be determined via a poll.
And here’s the logic it follows:
In order to make all of the above work, we had to create 11 separate instances of a sleep event, but I’m kind of glad that we did it now and not earlier in the game. Since with everything that’s already going on, we managed to create what I believe to be a final version of “sleep”, we won’t have to redo it.
I also experimented with all potential sleep things that could theoretically happen, in order to create the artwork (Sleeping in prison is rather dangerous and I’ve heard Kira’s dorm has some perverts). So it all should be easily expandable in the future.
As per usual, all art and text displays how Kira is looking and behaving (Lust, Int, fetishes, appearance). We just did 5 thoughts, but they’re 18 pages long because of everything that can be referenced in them.
All in all, it was a piece of work and in no way was this update easy or quick.
Speaking of quick updates - Like I’ve said, we thought it would be easy. Just one picture of Kira sleeping and some random one liners about quests, but when we started redoing the older sleep events, we thought - what else would we need in a sleep event? One thing led to another, and you know the rest.
So, in order to avoid this from happening again and actually do create quick updates, we’re now adjusting their roster:
The new requirement for things that can go on this list is rather simple - the events need to have existing artwork.
I’ll first write the event, Moana would code it in with existing art and only after that we’d try to add some new artworks to it (different partner, outfit, cut-in, etc.) if we’ll have time for that.
In other news, we started renting an office. Nothing fancy, just a small separate room in a co-working place, but it gets the job done. It’s 4.5 kilometers away and I don’t know how to drive, so I’ve been walking there, but that’s cool, because sometimes the hand of evolution must be forced. By walking this much my body shall adapt and transform, I shall get myself a strong leg and a pouch for laptops/snacks. I expect the pouch to come in any day now.
We can’t be there every day (damn those other responsibilities that stand in the way of making more naked ladies for the internet!), but we do make a point to appear there at least 3 times a week.
The reasons for this are quite simple:
- We want to become more disciplined and at the office there’s literally nothing else to do, plus we’re paying for it, which serves as an extra incentive to not waste any time. The consistency of updates will slowly but steadily build up.
- For years, there was no line between our work and personal life, we did everything at home, which wasn’t that bad, but I’d like to try a different approach.
- We’ve been warned by the government that this winter will be extremely tough, long periods of time with no electricity and all that fun stuff. We have batteries, but if everything will be as bad as they say, we won’t have time to charge them. The office fixes this issue, they have their own generator and starlink. So we’re now prepared for whatever comes our way.
- Evolution, because who doesn’t want a laptop pouch? (Moana wanted me to specify that this goal is mine alone.)
All and all, things are fine, I really hope that you can see that we’re not just sitting around and are trying to improve. I don’t think we will magically become super fast with the changes I listed in this post, but I do think it’s a step in the right direction.
Even though we are aiming to make the next update a major one, we still would like to know which “fast update” option you’d like to see in the game next.
Here’s a link to the poll, in case you missed the notification:
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As per usual, thank you all for your patience and support! The end is near!
- Oct 8, 2022
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Howdy again! This is a quick hotfix post.
Okay, so there’s 8 randomizers and one of them didn’t have a default version in cases where Kira had no thoughts, which resulted in a loop. In other words, this bug only occurred for prude Kiras! We fixed it by introducing a new randomizer (gotta fight fire with fire), now Kira will also have 5 default one-liners (they are counted as 1 “thought” in the eyes of the sleep system)
Here’s the link:
- Fixed the bug where the bed was just removing Kira’s panties because it felt like it
- Fixed a bug with an infinite loop due to Kira not having any special thoughts unlocked
- Fixed an endless loop during Chief Officer 3 event
- Added 5 random default one-liners
- Fixed Legion subway Nun head glitch in cases where Kira has pink hair.
- Night Park event teleport fix
- Fixed a bug that locked Kira’s closet during the “Basic Instinct” quest
- Fixed a bug where the museum shirt was replacing the Farm outfit’s top part.
- Fixed a bug where Kira became a floating head in one of Napoleon dialogues
- Fixed a bug where nipple rings were always shown during Farm milking H-events, even when Kira didn’t have them.
Note: I updated the download link in the main post and you can read the main changelog in it as well (just below this post).
The thing about bugs is that they like to spread and multiply. Each fix might result in another bug, we did test this version again (this time with a prude Kira), but the sleep affects every aspect of the game, so it’s possible we missed something.
Thank you all for providing your reports! Hopefully everything works as intended now, if not - please do tell us again!
Okay, so there’s 8 randomizers and one of them didn’t have a default version in cases where Kira had no thoughts, which resulted in a loop. In other words, this bug only occurred for prude Kiras! We fixed it by introducing a new randomizer (gotta fight fire with fire), now Kira will also have 5 default one-liners (they are counted as 1 “thought” in the eyes of the sleep system)
Here’s the link:
You must be registered to see the links
- Fixed the bug where the bed was just removing Kira’s panties because it felt like it
- Fixed a bug with an infinite loop due to Kira not having any special thoughts unlocked
- Fixed an endless loop during Chief Officer 3 event
- Added 5 random default one-liners
- Fixed Legion subway Nun head glitch in cases where Kira has pink hair.
- Night Park event teleport fix
- Fixed a bug that locked Kira’s closet during the “Basic Instinct” quest
- Fixed a bug where the museum shirt was replacing the Farm outfit’s top part.
- Fixed a bug where Kira became a floating head in one of Napoleon dialogues
- Fixed a bug where nipple rings were always shown during Farm milking H-events, even when Kira didn’t have them.
Note: I updated the download link in the main post and you can read the main changelog in it as well (just below this post).
The thing about bugs is that they like to spread and multiply. Each fix might result in another bug, we did test this version again (this time with a prude Kira), but the sleep affects every aspect of the game, so it’s possible we missed something.
Thank you all for providing your reports! Hopefully everything works as intended now, if not - please do tell us again!