SpartaKus57

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so I would need help to start or finish some things because I don't know some quests or how to do them like :

- The end of “A Modest Proposal” Main quest
- Start “Counter Offer"
- “Mind” Sexposition event
- “Secret” Augs shop H-event
- how to activate prison pole H-event

thanks for your help.
 

Warphorror

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so I would need help to start or finish some things because I don't know some quests or how to do them like :

- The end of “A Modest Proposal” Main quest
- Start “Counter Offer"
- “Mind” Sexposition event
- “Secret” Augs shop H-event
- how to activate prison pole H-event

thanks for your help.
1) Modest Proposal : continue with the main quest, without knowing at which stage you are can't really provide anything usefull.
2) Counter Offer : progress to the end (or almost) of Modest proposal, again without a precise stage can't help.
3) Prison Pole event : need counter offer
4) Secret event : an event that play during counter offer, if you are not on the path of the event a special offer to see it will be proposed.
5) Mind sexposition : I don't know if you mean the whole let's tinker with Kira mind or the brainwashing from Katya. Either way need to progress though A Modest Proposal.

On another note, somebody has access to the new post made yesterday/today with 0.5d?
 
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Warphorror her is for you !!
screenshoot finished 325 / 326 / 327 and unfinished quest 328 / 329 / 330
You haven't yet met the rebel leaders since Enemy Within hasn't tagged it. Is Basic Instinct done? If no, you need to progress it then use the boat in the rebel base in the sewer (sanctuary for the hobos guide) then go through the exit in the south-west of the map, you are in the second rebel camp, house on the right is where the leaders are.
 
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SpartaKus57

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ok after the last brainwash to be the best pole girl i need to talk to shwift but i have the prototype so kira rescue her and go back to sanctuary sooo i d'ont go to be pole girl ?! if i don't have the prototype i see the pole content ?!
need to know
 

Warphorror

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ok after the last brainwash to be the best pole girl i need to talk to shwift but i have the prototype so kira rescue her and go back to sanctuary sooo i d'ont go to be pole girl ?! if i don't have the prototype i see the pole content ?!
need to know
Did you read the quest and dialogs?
You becoming pole girl is the price, ie deal with Gulag, to save Shwift and you can only save her due to the prototype.
After bringing her to the fortress of solitude you have some discussion with her and the intro to the fetishes contents (not yet implemented).
Basically after a bunch of dialogs you'll be able to go to the pole.
May need to go the Aug Shop before doing the pole, don't remember trying it without first going to the shop.
 
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JFedrick

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Stuck on Shroedinger's candidate. - Persuade vivarium leaders. I've talked to all of the leaders still only shows 2/3, might have chosen the wrong response with imperator? she just tells me "not now, fuckmeat. leave me!" did I miss something
 

bethanystarconnors

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I know this probably won't be any sort of effective comment. I also know it's ironic to be commenting on an ethical issue on a porn game. But I hope my thoughts will at least be taken with the sincere tone in which I mean it. Defenstration is one of my favorite games, not just erotic game. I sincerely love the setting, the humor, all the sexy options, the characters. It's one I've returned to since the early days, perhaps more than any other game.

The one thing that really takes me out of it is the frequent use of calling the protagonist ret***ed, and the slur being used in general. Don't get me wrong, I love the bimbo content, and the dumbification of the protagonist. I even like the degrading/patronizing tones the other characters use with her. It all adds to the sexiness and story. However, the use of the slur is something that, as an autistic person, I have had to deal with most my life. So every time it's used, I get thrown out of the kink and into some fairly traumatic memories. I imagine many other people like me may very well experience the same.

"So don't play the game," would be my anticipated response. And, yes, that's probably what I will need to do. Not everything is for everyone, and that's fine. Hell, I may be the only person who feels that way. Nor do I think that this is some easy fix, since it is pretty ingrained into a lot of the game.

But, as a writer, I always want to know the hurdles that keep individuals from enjoying my own work. So, in case this sentiment is shared by the devs, I just wanted to give the perspective of one individual who genuinely otherwise loves what is being created here.

I wish y'all the best.
 
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I know this probably won't be any sort of effective comment. I also know it's ironic to be commenting on an ethical issue on a porn game. But I hope my thoughts will at least be taken with the sincere tone in which I mean it. Defenstration is one of my favorite games, not just erotic game. I sincerely love the setting, the humor, all the sexy options, the characters. It's one I've returned to since the early days, perhaps more than any other game.

The one thing that really takes me out of it is the frequent use of calling the protagonist ret***ed, and the slur being used in general. Don't get me wrong, I love the bimbo content, and the dumbification of the protagonist. I even like the degrading/patronizing tones the other characters use with her. It all adds to the sexiness and story. However, the use of the slur is something that, as an autistic person, I have had to deal with most my life. So every time it's used, I get thrown out of the kink and into some fairly traumatic memories. I imagine many other people like me may very well experience the same.

"So don't play the game," would be my anticipated response. And, yes, that's probably what I will need to do. Not everything is for everyone, and that's fine. Hell, I may be the only person who feels that way. Nor do I think that this is some easy fix, since it is pretty ingrained into a lot of the game.

But, as a writer, I always want to know the hurdles that keep individuals from enjoying my own work. So, in case this sentiment is shared by the devs, I just wanted to give the perspective of one individual who genuinely otherwise loves what is being created here.

I wish y'all the best.
Bro, I don't think it's being used as a slur at this point. I mean look at her dialogue, it's a pretty accurate picture. Also being autistic doesn't mean someone's ret***ed. So I'm not sure why you're feeling attacked here. I mean no one's calling YOU that.
Also the nature of a slur is to degrade and offend and that particular slur is basically only used as a slur now. No doctor is gonna write that on a diagnosis anymore, so it's not even making fun of mentally disabeled people.
I'm honestly not sure why you're getting offended here. I mean she regularly gets called a slut and a cow lol. It's an 18+ porn game after all, I don't think we should censore words here. Let the devs make their game however they want.
 

Gerbalzlayer

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I know this probably won't be any sort of effective comment. I also know it's ironic to be commenting on an ethical issue on a porn game. But I hope my thoughts will at least be taken with the sincere tone in which I mean it. Defenstration is one of my favorite games, not just erotic game. I sincerely love the setting, the humor, all the sexy options, the characters. It's one I've returned to since the early days, perhaps more than any other game.

The one thing that really takes me out of it is the frequent use of calling the protagonist ret***ed, and the slur being used in general. Don't get me wrong, I love the bimbo content, and the dumbification of the protagonist. I even like the degrading/patronizing tones the other characters use with her. It all adds to the sexiness and story. However, the use of the slur is something that, as an autistic person, I have had to deal with most my life. So every time it's used, I get thrown out of the kink and into some fairly traumatic memories. I imagine many other people like me may very well experience the same.

"So don't play the game," would be my anticipated response. And, yes, that's probably what I will need to do. Not everything is for everyone, and that's fine. Hell, I may be the only person who feels that way. Nor do I think that this is some easy fix, since it is pretty ingrained into a lot of the game.

But, as a writer, I always want to know the hurdles that keep individuals from enjoying my own work. So, in case this sentiment is shared by the devs, I just wanted to give the perspective of one individual who genuinely otherwise loves what is being created here.

I wish y'all the best.
To be fair there is no way to insult someone's intelligence without implying they are mentally handicaped because all the words for stupid where created because of the mentally retarded. And if we gloss over the fact that Kira technically is mentally handicapped because that is the whole fetish then, it's not like people are using the word retarded anymore. The word retarded has fell out of style and has been replaced by the newest medical term autistic. So calling Kira retarded in this day in age is no different than calling her stupid.
 
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bethanystarconnors

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Bro, I don't think it's being used as a slur at this point. I mean look at her dialogue, it's a pretty accurate picture. Also being autistic doesn't mean someone's ret***ed. So I'm not sure why you're feeling attacked here. I mean no one's calling YOU that.
Also the nature of a slur is to degrade and offend and that particular slur is basically only used as a slur now. No doctor is gonna write that on a diagnosis anymore, so it's not even making fun of mentally disabeled people.
I'm honestly not sure why you're getting offended here. I mean she regularly gets called a slut and a cow lol. It's an 18+ porn game after all, I don't think we should censore words here. Let the devs make their game however they want.
I'm not feeling attacked ... nor did I insinuate that. Nor did I say I was offended. I only offered a singular perspective. That if you use slurs that have traditionally been used to target a group of people, that group of people is going to be less likely to enjoy a work. The devs can do as they please, and that's fine.
 
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I'm not feeling attacked ... nor did I insinuate that. Nor did I say I was offended. I only offered a singular perspective. That if you use slurs that have traditionally been used to target a group of people, that group of people is going to be less likely to enjoy a work. The devs can do as they please, and that's fine.
Well I'm dumb af and I still like it. So there goes that theory
 
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Also, it's poggers report time babyyy:


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Howdy! Here’s what’s up:
The new version adds a small repeatable harassment event where Kira gets stopped by a militia officer, another super short (not lewd) militia event for the sake of worldbuilding and the dialogue artwork for “militia” npcs. We primarily used existing art, but I did create a new animated cut-in.
This was not the main thing we worked on, but just a little side-update to make the wait between major updates more tolerable. As for the main update, we’re currently working on the addition of other pole events (the ones listed in the consent form), militia enforcement (in case Kira doesn’t show up for 7 days) and the “Gulag death” event (not lewd) that will free Kira from her obligations. The goal is to complete this part of the game entirely.

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Note: Save Files work, just copy your entire “save” folder from the older version into the new one.
- ”Militia” Random NPC Dialogue art
- Animated cut-in (10 frames)
- Lewd Militia harassment event
- Not Lewd Militia harassment event
- Bugfixes
- Reduced the size of some game files (better/faster loading, optimization)
Conditions: The lewd event can happen at the very start of the game with a certain % probability every time you enter the Residential Area location. The non-lewd one requires the party quest to be completed, otherwise it has the same conditions.
1724713757519.png
On a more personal note, updates like this one should generally take about two weeks to make and the pole update could've been finished already, I just got bitten by Lana Del Ray.
Yes, don’t get fooled by her “I’m retired now, look how skinny I am” charade, she still goes to hunt every summer and I was an easy prey. She turned me into the Couch Mulan and it’s difficult to make anything when you're a couch. I stared at the blank page for hours and spent a week drawing a sleeve.
But, the invisible hand of capitalism isn’t sleeping either, and it pushed me out of my slumber. So, even though I’m still a couch, here’s a little update to hopefully make the wait for the bigger one a bit brighter.
Do not get me wrong. This is not all that we did during this summer. We worked on a new outfit for Kira, Olga character redesign, layering pole event, writing new pole events, alternative “AUGs shop” events, alternative “slut version” of latest Katya event, more dialogue art for npcs, more references to Kira’s lust/int stats in pole events, Red Kira art for times when she’s “in action” and more.
It just was more difficult than it should be because I’m currently a couch.
That said, we also have something new to show you (apart from the update itself):
I did not just write this one short harassment H-event, I wrote multiple ones with different characters, but they still need more time in the oven - since they’re not just regular events with a “yes or no” question. They need to have some “set-up” and ways for Kira to fight back.
For example, the one we currently implemented has 5 options - accept to be searched by militia, bribe the militia, go to prison, use charisma or let “Red Kira” take control (will disable the event permanently).
All 5 options have Lust/Int/Fetishes and stages (First & Second time viewings - since this event is repeatable). So, the lewd portion of this event is just another small part of the overall text, some of which can’t even be seen and most likely won’t be seen, given that the event can trigger even in the intro - but it has to be there, because it’s theoretically possible.
This opens up some interesting possibilities - Red Kira gets unlocked later in the story, you also get more charisma for completing the quest. So, it’s entirely possible for this to be a little “revenge story” of Kira going to prison because she refused to be searched, and then later coming back to use her newfound powers on her harasser. Or for Kira becoming too lewd - which ruins her harassers “power fantasy” in this particular case.
I want all our “harassment” events to follow a similar formula, - I want them to further emphasize the changes in Kira’s identity and showcase how Lustful/Powerful she’s becoming.
On the “Lust” side of things - some characters will enjoy seeing Kira acting like a slut, others will get disgusted (like this new militia guy) and the Kira herself might become indifferent to the harassments, just like you, the player, after seeing an event multiple times.
The novelty of seeing Kira touched or stripped will disappear for both her and you. So it all has to be implemented smartly - I don’t want you to become annoyed when another person stops Kira from moving to tell her she has “nice ass”, I want you to enjoy seeing Kira fight back or seeing how accustomed she’s got to the “slut life” (depends on how you play).
Another aspect of this is that the “slut life” isn’t easy to break out of. If your Kira was walking with her tits out and then suddenly decided to have some modesty - the characters will react, some will encourage her to reconsider, some will get angry, some will try to “help” her.
1724713777339.png
I really got carried away while writing this, but I pretty much only have the lewd text and I still need to write the other choices (red kira, charisma, plain “no”, etc.), otherwise we’d already implement this.
The “harassment” events I wrote have varied lengths, some are relatively big, while others have just a couple of lines to them (like catcalls). The idea is to have an overwhelming amount of them, and since they stop Kira from moving - they need a different kind of art, something without the background and relatively non-invasive.
Which is why we were experimenting with the art of such events, I want some of them (the catcalls primarily) to just have a cut-in, no background, no anything:
1724713805610.png
In conclusion, the harassment events in our game should ideally meet the following conditions:
-
they’re meant to support the rest of the story
- they stop Kira from moving, but shouldn’t feel annoying for the player
- they should be frequent and diverse
Harassment events will be added gradually with patreon polls and will not interfere with our “Grand plan” for the game. Everything I wrote might seem like another unfinished system, but it won’t become one. Every encounter will be its own thing - finished, but with a possibility of future expansion.
We were also testing how they should trigger and we currently want to mix all the tools that we have at our disposal. In some events the npc will run after Kira, in others there will be an exclamation point above their head and Kira will need to interact with them, and the “autorun” events that trigger when Kira enters a location.
And, it goes without saying, but the stripping/touching is pretty much stage 1 - We will add more stages when we’ll have more art from other important story events and side-quests.
Now, the current roster for fast updates looks like this (it didn’t change):
1724713831164.png
If you like what you’ve read above and you want to see it, then vote for the “harassment event” again, but we will release it after the next major (pole) update, which should happen relatively soon.
1724713853787.png
Overall, things are relatively fine. I knew it would be difficult to adapt to a new schedule and switch to work on different things at the same time, but we’re getting there. Albeit, not as fast and not as smooth as I hoped.
But, once this new schedule will be fully adapted - I firmly believe that we’ll finally get on the right track and keep everyone happy.
This update brings one random harassment event to the residential area - the previous winner of the content poll, the new poll is already up and you can cast your vote here (in case you missed the notification):

As for the major update - we’re currently layering the pole event, along with some new additions to it (like milk pumps, vaginal sex, double penetration).
Thank you all for your patience and support, the end is near!
 

Raganas

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Aug 2, 2023
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I dont seem to get any other shower options other than continue or leave. everything else is grayed out.
Also I have completed first liqueur quest but it persists (the store has nothing and liquer will be under "next month" option)
 

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Also, it's poggers report time babyyy:


View attachment 3971273
Howdy! Here’s what’s up:
The new version adds a small repeatable harassment event where Kira gets stopped by a militia officer, another super short (not lewd) militia event for the sake of worldbuilding and the dialogue artwork for “militia” npcs. We primarily used existing art, but I did create a new animated cut-in.
This was not the main thing we worked on, but just a little side-update to make the wait between major updates more tolerable. As for the main update, we’re currently working on the addition of other pole events (the ones listed in the consent form), militia enforcement (in case Kira doesn’t show up for 7 days) and the “Gulag death” event (not lewd) that will free Kira from her obligations. The goal is to complete this part of the game entirely.
V0.5d (Click Me)
View attachment 3971275
Note: Save Files work, just copy your entire “save” folder from the older version into the new one.
- ”Militia” Random NPC Dialogue art
- Animated cut-in (10 frames)
- Lewd Militia harassment event
- Not Lewd Militia harassment event
- Bugfixes
- Reduced the size of some game files (better/faster loading, optimization)
Conditions: The lewd event can happen at the very start of the game with a certain % probability every time you enter the Residential Area location. The non-lewd one requires the party quest to be completed, otherwise it has the same conditions.
View attachment 3971276
On a more personal note, updates like this one should generally take about two weeks to make and the pole update could've been finished already, I just got bitten by Lana Del Ray.
Yes, don’t get fooled by her “I’m retired now, look how skinny I am” charade, she still goes to hunt every summer and I was an easy prey. She turned me into the Couch Mulan and it’s difficult to make anything when you're a couch. I stared at the blank page for hours and spent a week drawing a sleeve.
But, the invisible hand of capitalism isn’t sleeping either, and it pushed me out of my slumber. So, even though I’m still a couch, here’s a little update to hopefully make the wait for the bigger one a bit brighter.
Do not get me wrong. This is not all that we did during this summer. We worked on a new outfit for Kira, Olga character redesign, layering pole event, writing new pole events, alternative “AUGs shop” events, alternative “slut version” of latest Katya event, more dialogue art for npcs, more references to Kira’s lust/int stats in pole events, Red Kira art for times when she’s “in action” and more.
It just was more difficult than it should be because I’m currently a couch.
That said, we also have something new to show you (apart from the update itself):
I did not just write this one short harassment H-event, I wrote multiple ones with different characters, but they still need more time in the oven - since they’re not just regular events with a “yes or no” question. They need to have some “set-up” and ways for Kira to fight back.
For example, the one we currently implemented has 5 options - accept to be searched by militia, bribe the militia, go to prison, use charisma or let “Red Kira” take control (will disable the event permanently).
All 5 options have Lust/Int/Fetishes and stages (First & Second time viewings - since this event is repeatable). So, the lewd portion of this event is just another small part of the overall text, some of which can’t even be seen and most likely won’t be seen, given that the event can trigger even in the intro - but it has to be there, because it’s theoretically possible.
This opens up some interesting possibilities - Red Kira gets unlocked later in the story, you also get more charisma for completing the quest. So, it’s entirely possible for this to be a little “revenge story” of Kira going to prison because she refused to be searched, and then later coming back to use her newfound powers on her harasser. Or for Kira becoming too lewd - which ruins her harassers “power fantasy” in this particular case.
I want all our “harassment” events to follow a similar formula, - I want them to further emphasize the changes in Kira’s identity and showcase how Lustful/Powerful she’s becoming.
On the “Lust” side of things - some characters will enjoy seeing Kira acting like a slut, others will get disgusted (like this new militia guy) and the Kira herself might become indifferent to the harassments, just like you, the player, after seeing an event multiple times.
The novelty of seeing Kira touched or stripped will disappear for both her and you. So it all has to be implemented smartly - I don’t want you to become annoyed when another person stops Kira from moving to tell her she has “nice ass”, I want you to enjoy seeing Kira fight back or seeing how accustomed she’s got to the “slut life” (depends on how you play).
Another aspect of this is that the “slut life” isn’t easy to break out of. If your Kira was walking with her tits out and then suddenly decided to have some modesty - the characters will react, some will encourage her to reconsider, some will get angry, some will try to “help” her.
View attachment 3971277
I really got carried away while writing this, but I pretty much only have the lewd text and I still need to write the other choices (red kira, charisma, plain “no”, etc.), otherwise we’d already implement this.
The “harassment” events I wrote have varied lengths, some are relatively big, while others have just a couple of lines to them (like catcalls). The idea is to have an overwhelming amount of them, and since they stop Kira from moving - they need a different kind of art, something without the background and relatively non-invasive.
Which is why we were experimenting with the art of such events, I want some of them (the catcalls primarily) to just have a cut-in, no background, no anything:
View attachment 3971278
In conclusion, the harassment events in our game should ideally meet the following conditions:
-
they’re meant to support the rest of the story
- they stop Kira from moving, but shouldn’t feel annoying for the player
- they should be frequent and diverse
Harassment events will be added gradually with patreon polls and will not interfere with our “Grand plan” for the game. Everything I wrote might seem like another unfinished system, but it won’t become one. Every encounter will be its own thing - finished, but with a possibility of future expansion.
We were also testing how they should trigger and we currently want to mix all the tools that we have at our disposal. In some events the npc will run after Kira, in others there will be an exclamation point above their head and Kira will need to interact with them, and the “autorun” events that trigger when Kira enters a location.
And, it goes without saying, but the stripping/touching is pretty much stage 1 - We will add more stages when we’ll have more art from other important story events and side-quests.
Now, the current roster for fast updates looks like this (it didn’t change):
View attachment 3971279
If you like what you’ve read above and you want to see it, then vote for the “harassment event” again, but we will release it after the next major (pole) update, which should happen relatively soon.
View attachment 3971280
Overall, things are relatively fine. I knew it would be difficult to adapt to a new schedule and switch to work on different things at the same time, but we’re getting there. Albeit, not as fast and not as smooth as I hoped.
But, once this new schedule will be fully adapted - I firmly believe that we’ll finally get on the right track and keep everyone happy.
This update brings one random harassment event to the residential area - the previous winner of the content poll, the new poll is already up and you can cast your vote here (in case you missed the notification):

As for the major update - we’re currently layering the pole event, along with some new additions to it (like milk pumps, vaginal sex, double penetration).
Thank you all for your patience and support, the end is near!
Thanks for the share but is this update is 100% skippable
 

Chase0074

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55
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great, medved and I just finished a bottle of vodka and ate some kartoshka, he broke my balalayka and fell asleep, and I can play this wonderful game, URA
 
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