RPGM Defenestration [v0.5h] [Fresh Mulan]

[seraph1995]

Dang cant install the android version... keeps getting deleted right after downloading from MEGA.

 

[Deleted member 1356453]

You want constructive feedback`? ait, heres 3 gripes i have.


- you never seem to finish anything. The new U storyline, what about that? hadnt had any updates to that in ages, i cannot slut it up / bimbo it up there. Theres two rooms with event triggers left and right to it that really get me curious everytime. And thats just an example . Heres a few more: The hacker storyline,the movie/filmstudio storyline . And now you have this big super mega pregnant update in a town. im not gonna sit here "ouhhhhhh thats not mainstory" like some people did.because it clearly is and you can tell if you read. its just not very well thought out. You can go full bimbo with - 100 int and +21652312093 slutyness and i still cannot go to the pillar/stocks on my own accord, i cant choose to randomly fuck someone, i cannot choose to whore myself out like other npcs clearly are, its always a single point thats missing, and none of the storys conclude. Why isnt the analrapist sending me to porntown or making me his own doll slave hes ALMSOT there, why can i not do the new u treatment on my own accord, why if i break in and getcaught on porpuse and get bondaged up in that suit with the dildos and the helmet, do i have to break out instead of taking it for a stat decrease, why do you make a game that tells me i have choices to make, but then dont give me any choices to make, even tho my version of my kira at that point , would do it instantly.

- youre inconsequent. Instead of adding 10000 different body mod's and portrait to e very content youve already made, you add 1000 new expressions exclusively in new content. its so weird having a bimbo mc go to jail and ltierally just not have any scenes change. Less is more,i love the detail but maaaaan you can totally get away with making default face expressions and streamlined work, not everything must be 1000% unique, trustme, this isnt like video editing where youd notice, most hentai games do that for good reasons, mainly cost and time. Make what is already there work, expand on that, add new sections after that. Finish one thing first, then go to the next.

-You force your entire playerbase to play the game every single time it updates. Claires quest has a npc in the gallary that updates your save so you can carry it over, some games have skip functions that are way faster then yours, a new dawn has cheats and accelerated gameplay if you so choose, meanwhile i literally cannot load my 0.49.0 save, if i put it into the folder it just doesnt show up in the game, so i need to replay the entire thign again? ive been doing th at since 0.42. Whats even worse is that without this trial and error i still wouldnt know when to put saves so i have a semi functioning gallery for the good shit. And even worse: at that point i am almost certainly going to be disappointed by the fact that m y current kira looks different from the scenes. That reminds me, do you know what another problem is? You have very hard statchecks in the game that do NOT have alternative ways around it, so you cant even play this game as a sandbox. you are required to do certain content in a row because theres no way to consistenly upgrade stats or decrease stats. i cannot do the gym first to see if the gym content is sick because i need a perversion level at -8. Dont you think that for yourself too, it would just be easier ot make those stats more feasibly grindable atleast now where the game isnt quite complete, till all the content is in place so people actually can choose what they wanna do instead of having to replay the entire thing in the same order? dont you think streamlining those stat checks or putting in ways (like the dum bitch juice, again you can remove this later, when the content thats clearly missing now, is there) that increase stats *fast* (as well as money, since money is always an issue) or atleast controlled (compared to now which locks them behind progression and specific events rather then random ones or just working or actually just taking the grind like going out in the night is pointless. the guy in the park that changes location is pointless etc because even if i do that content it doesnt change anything so might as well not do it) is a easy way for you to find bugs faster as well as us reporting them faster?

Game still breaks quite frequently, can i even take a bath in the gym? what about the incel meetup in the night? theres no follow up to any of it, why tease it if we literally dont even interact with it?how hard is it really to have a switch ( i know how rpgm works) that allows you to repeat scenes when talking to npcs again, you can go everywhere again and again so its not like this is a logistical impossibility. Work on your core gameplay first, work on your systems first, then polish them, dont polish them now just so you have to start again and extend them by 6000% later down, thats an exponential workload increase that WILL kill this project. TRUST me.

I am honestly just sick and tired of having to replay the entire thing because even in my speedruns it takes me a solid hour,the lack of gallery feature or replay feature literally makes it so that i cant explore other paths without feeling like i waste my time.Workflow and streamlining is soooooooooooo important, yo uwanna know how important streamlining is? germany lost world war 2 because they didnt do it. (okaybad joke, but its actually true, germany handcrafted every tank, every cog, everything by hand, while the russians and americans were shitting out shermans and t26 on an assembly line, it was actually atrocious. IN this scenario, you are the tiger tank, take some shortcuts/general faces/now,the level of detail you strife for is great, but also unnessessary right now,because thats part of polish (e.g. version0.99) and not part of the current dev cicle youre in. Do NOT go for low hanging fruits like yandere dev, get the systems in place first, every single time you patch a new anything in you have to go back and change everything, no, put it all in first, then change it, nobody, and i repeat , nobody, is gonna tell you that youre shit for doing a bit of samefacing because everyone is doing it, because if they were not doing it they would never finish, andm ost people change it later as previously stated.)

i dont wanna insult you by assuming things but i have a sincere question

do you have a design document with a flowchart, is it outlined completely at all, because, with every patch i think its not, and if you have one, have you considered revisiting it or streamlining it? if you want i can help with that, fuck it ido it for free, pro bono and i have no fucking job atm since covid happened.

man you are in despair, i will jerk you off personally!

 

[AftermathARVIE]

man you are in despair, i will jerk you off personally!

DW about me, my dry spell started with corona and will end with corona.

 

[LoveWhores]

Looks like no one of the missions are continued and updated yet....the trainings in the hospital at floor 3 are not updated too.....the train it's still closed and not updated.....and the only thing right now it's some repeatable Technopriestess in Vivarium! Also,every time i try to go at night and steal the Liquor from the Bazaar i get arested when i leave and it looks immpossible to finish that one! By the way,is there a way to win money from somewhere because it looks i can't go and keep work in the resaraunt again after already finished the quest with Kira and hers friends trying to take a video at that man in the D1n3r 15,near Kira's home (i think he was from the hospital - some scientist or something like that) - now on the panel in Kira's home(residential area - community 7),it's say there is only waitress job at residential area - station 17 but when i go there it's closed and can't do anything....even the Hotel is closed and i was think from there can be possible to win money too... If someone know how to win money,please let me know it too!

 

[Liero]

The worst decision was to make customizable heroine. If you have made her body change according to route that player had chosen, than you would have much less job without actually loosing anything, because its hard to imagine strange player that will customize bimbo on slut route or play smart route with all cow mods. And it will be strange to not go to full modifications on route.

I'd argue that the customizable heroine is exactly why this game is as unique as it is.
Other games mostly force you through changes you may not want, while in this game, it's optional.

I completely understand the frustration of having to wait a long time between updates, because hell, I am paying monthly for this. But I honestly do not mind, as I do believe the end product will be a good experience. I prefer to keep a optimistic mind about these things, but my trackrecord of this is not exactly stellar, considering that I put a lot of money into a certain Krystal game that ended up going nowhere.

 

[shadow415]

end product

That's the whole problem right. If you get the end product than he/she doesn't make any more money and have to come up with something new. The audience for which might or might not be there. Its a big risk.

 

[labmouseblues]

That's the whole problem right. If you get the end product than he/she doesn't make any more money and have to come up with something new. The audience for which might or might not be there. Its a big risk.

Eh, I'd say a creator with a proven track record and a defined brand doesn't have to worry about losing customers. Just look at the Opala series - on the third entry and going strong.

I put a lot of money into a certain Krystal game that ended up going nowhere.

Ouch.

 

[PULALAU1]

You are so right I would love this comment 10 times over. if I could. I have played Defenestration since it's first release and have previously been a Patreon for several months. When the game was first released it was filled with fantastic content and ideas and there were lots of them. Then the delays started happening, don't get me wrong as far as I am concerned the dev is in charge of their own game and if there are delays, provided they keep their paying supporters informed, then what does it really matter. Us freebie seekers just have to wait and not complain.
I was initially sucked in by the storyline and with the anticiapation of the New You quests and a little further down the line the Movie Star. I seem to remember one of the updates from long ago finishing under the city as Kira got infected if she sat in some sort of machine..........then there was delay after delay and now there is suddenly a farm amongst other things but no mention of the previous storyline. What happened to the main backbone of the original story? There was so much that could and should have been done with that story arc before heading off and creating separate paths but unfortunately it has now all blurred and the orginal anticipation has now gone.
I do agree with everything else you have said but for me the shift away from the early main story is what has stopped me playing.

WOW SINCE THE RELEASE ? i just want that stupid buss station to be finish i am so sick to play the game over and over again in every update , of course i don't even bother to read the text i am here just to see the sexy images

 

[Deleted member 852507]

Hey, can anyone tell where to find the little girl that lost cat in Vivarium? I got the cat but haven't played since last update and totally forgot where she was. Thank you.

 

[PULALAU1]

oh

Reactions:BABPEEG i suppose you read every single word no ?

 

[Krycilla]

Can we start a #DefundDefenestration movement xD. 3 months and over $5000 doesn't really justify a 2 min scene xD

 

[BABPEEG]

Help I'm too retarded to read

 

[Deleted member 1069037]

Lots of angry people in here. Personally, this is the only game on this entire danged site that I think is actually worth playing. Good story, good art, well written, and doesn't pretend to be a high class-novel like some games. But three whole months and so little content...it does leave one rather disappointed.

 

[theciscokidxx]

Best game on the site. Thank you comrade

 

[pigg]

Hey, can anyone tell where to find the little girl that lost cat in Vivarium? I got the cat but haven't played since last update and totally forgot where she was. Thank you.

The girl is near Napoleon in the Animal Farm. Where did you find the cat?

 

[blabonohe]

The girl is near Napoleon in the Animal Farm. Where did you find the cat?

don't do that... really

 

[esxay]

I don’t know when I’ll want to check this forum again, but I probably will at some point.

Meanwhile, I’ll give you boys some food for thots:
Just imagine for a second - everything I’ve said is true.

Now, with that in mind, give me solutions, help me. Tell me how I can do better, don’t just scream “Mulan bad”, offer some solutions for a change.

how bout a little split up and do more events for olga and katya in hospital? There's way to make them naked, and events with them wouldnt require to draw extra layers... Also they dont have any body mods so not so stressful to draw. And that's a good story route, dont waste it

 

[Readerf2b]

I'd argue that the customizable heroine is exactly why this game is as unique as it is.
Other games mostly force you through changes you may not want, while in this game, it's optional

I obviously dont know any numbers, but something tells me that people rarely dont go to most bizzare choises in modifications when they play bimbo for example. So when playing a bimbo route you most likely choose bigger tits whenever this option exists. On the contrary playing smart/spy you wouldnt do it, because why? So we have mostly three routs which people use, and some much smaller number of individuals making, in my opinion, terrible choises of having bimbo with less titsize than possible or spy with tits bigger than default one.
Is it smart to spend so much time on much less popular options? Especially since we dont have any solid finished part exept prison in two years?
Maybe as was stated above, mulan run out of creative ideas, since farm was to generic to my taste.

 

[Butters01]

Did they continued farm story in this update?

 

[DrMage]

The girl is near Napoleon in the Animal Farm. Where did you find the cat?

As i remember it's on the rooftop of the house in the NE of the main vivarium area. Find a ladder to collect it