RPGM Defenestration [v0.5i] [Fresh Mulan]

[keenkp]

The more we wait, the more the content requirements will be. The developer makes a cruel joke to himself by delaying the release of the new version.

hahahahaha this is classic FreshMulan style.

I know what the situation, he is not a workaholic and this game takes him a lot of energy, and always he is not a plan guy.

 

[jonL]

hahahahaha this is classic FreshMulan style.

I know what the situation, he is not a workaholic and this game takes him a lot of energy, and always he is not a plan guy.

You know, by postsoviet standarts 2k$ per month is very good money. You can employ begginers coder and artist on full time 8/5 basis outside Moscow, and have other half to yourself. So its not funny anymore. His "work" results for previous year is two small updates and ton of excuses.

 

[strejdapsychop]

Not really. Chances are that the last version you played is still the current one.

 

[AlisaB]

Typical russian "dev" - very long intervals between content updates, multiple delays, elaborate excuses.

 

[jonL]

Typical russian "dev" - very long intervals between content updates, multiple delays, elaborate excuses.

That is typical for 90% of indi dev. Thats why finished games are so rare.

 

[CorwinFr]

We all know the story about Freshmulan and planning, but we have to be honest, there is a lot of improvement in graphic and story (you can like or not but it's another problem). The thing we can discuss is the balance in each update between new content (dialog, H-scene) and technical improvement (tatoo, grope system, etc.).

Patreon is not Steam, you pay to help a developer in his project whatever it is. If you want change the project help the dev with more money or sent him smart comment into Patreon.

I know the story "I will not give a buck and download free, I want update each week with more content, I can pay 1000 € / $ / ... if you do that..." Don't be a child and be honest at least with you about that.

Anyway I hope a release soon like any of you BUT I know to much pressure on some dev (some people are more affected than others when you're hard with their work they take it to personally) can cause drama or bad decision making.

So I try to keep my fucking mouth shutdown when I'm about to say something not positive or not useful. (I said I try )

Be cool, use your time on another drug, don't think to much about it. An stay in touch.

 

[jonL]

We all know the story about Freshmulan and planning, but we have to be honest, there is a lot of improvement in graphic and story (you can like or not but it's another problem). The thing we can discuss is the balance in each update between new content (dialog, H-scene) and technical improvement (tatoo, grope system, etc.).

He started rebuilding his game at January2019, right after second mosfilm update. Almost two years already, and we still dont have fully upgraded content.

Patreon is not Steam, you pay to help a developer in his project whatever it is. If you want change the project help the dev with more money or sent him smart comment into Patreon.

To be called developer you need to develop. And in general Patreon is fraud-supportive, since no penalties for frauds even exists. I personally no longer want to help Mulan in any way, i wish to see this game abandoned, so my earler hope for a good game will stop disturbing my mind.

I know the story "I will not give a buck and download free, I want update each week with more content, I can pay 1000 € / $ / ... if you do that..." Don't be a child and be honest at least with you about that.

I quit donating any money on patreon years ago, since donations level never correlates with development speed, quality and probability of game being finished.

Anyway I hope a release soon like any of you BUT I know to much pressure on some dev (some people are more affected than others when you're hard with their work they take it to personally) can cause drama or bad decision making.

Yeah, because waiting and support had brought us to this marvelous ton of content, such fruitful two years of development.

 

[HotPotLovers]

dude I got you point in someway, cus I used to be his patron like a year back or so for like a few months. But you want this good game to be abandoned? that's bit extreme, isn't it? If you don't like what you see here, just stop coming to this thread, you won't be bothered if you don't see shit. right?
After all, we are getting things for free here, complains on some level are fine I guess, but this is just bit out of the line.

 

[Idontplay]

Patreon is not Steam, you pay to help a developer in his project whatever it is. If you want change the project help the dev with more money or sent him smart comment into Patreon.

This is why Patreon use the term "reward": because our isn't an actual payment, but a reward for the work was did by the developer until that moment; at least this is how I interpret the term reward.

To be called developer you need to develop. And in general Patreon is fraud-supportive, since no penalties for frauds even exists.

This is why I think how Patreon works is wrong: if we don't have any guarantee about a project, why should we pay a monthly support? It think it would be better if it allowed one-time payments and in fact this is how I use Patreon: when I decide to support someone, first I pay the amount I decided to pay, then I revoke my support in order to avoid any future payment; until I don't decide the project is worthy for a further support.

 

[jonL]

But you want this good game to be abandoned?

It is already abandoned, even if mulan himself belives its not. He no longer have inspiration to create a game, all he is doing is prolonging development to have almost passive patreon income.

 

[KonD:R]

2k dollars = 150k rubles. My mum as a chemoterapist with 30 years of experience earns a little less... What an irony XD

 

[baneini]

It is pretty weird the game started off real strong then getting updates to it became an absolute shitshow.

 

[jonL]

It is pretty weird the game started off real strong then getting updates to it became an absolute shitshow.

Its not weird. Solo/small team devs cant do prolonged development due to loosing inspiration. Or they are frouds, who makes solid demo+good advertised patreon then go into work simulation mod for years.

 

[AlisaB]

It is pretty weird the game started off real strong then getting updates to it became an absolute shitshow.

Yea, at the beginning the game was getting frequent updates(about 1 per 2 months) with good amount of content. Then came multiple art reworks which took a lot of time but game looks better imo.
Then Mulan got obsessed over the idea of having hundred customization options for everything: clothes, tits, butt, tattoos, piercings etc. This slowed down development speed significantly, basically 2 updates per year which we have currently.

 

[Cucky 27]

Looks like Mulan lost his calendar again

 

[CorwinFr]

Then Mulan got obsessed over the idea of having hundred customization options for everything: clothes, tits, butt, tattoos, piercings etc. This slowed down development speed significantly, basically 2 updates per year which we have currently.

I hardly follow you on this. But i'm not raging anymore about. For me the thing is a dev should not do a game for himself but for the gamers. And what gamers wants, more story and interresting story, surprising story, kinky and hard scenes. Some wants Kira with biggest boob possible some not this is a very interresting features. Some wants a smart Kira some others a Bimbo.

For me things is clear, more repetable events, from kinky to hard events, a story progression as far as possible. Forget too complext things cause we all know the story

'Hey comrade I will do a new feature Kira will be able to chose her watch

Don't worry I will need te rewrite all the code and redo all pictures for each watch combination but it's ok'

Few weeks later

'Hey... I'm dumb we broke something and I need more time...
Do you prefer an imediate update with only 2 scenes full of bug or wait another week... month ?'

Just kiding bro no offense but with time you get experience.


Anyway FreshMulan if you read this, I like you, I support you on Patreon, keep things up and work hard.
Keep things simple :

Evaluate gamers interrest vs time to developp
Plan your work by step to finish day by day instead of weeks by weeks
Intermediate update (like 1 per 2 month) can help you structure your timeplan because a goal keep you motivated.
If you need more money propose new plan on patreon and take into consideration some sugestions users gave you (like 3% of all shit we wrote to you are good to keep )


... Are we still in the main subject of this thread ?

 

[Almost96]

Lets just keep it simple, Mulan is taking us for fools, right now the X$ you are giving to Mulan could just go down the toilet, I believe that would be a way better investment.

 

[Cucky 27]

The game was supposed to be released on August 2nd or 3rd week right loved the game and the bimbo content but doesn't seem we gonna get any new updates this month as well

 

[Almost96]

I only gave money for two patreons one of them got banned (his name is ZXC) great dude and very hard working, but he got banned for very strange reasons. (also I do recommend everyone who love transformation/latex/tentacles to check out his work)
And the second one is Mulan, I was just looking right now and the last update was on 4th of june, now we are on 14th of september, so he got 3 months of patronage money for nothing. His only saving grace would be if the next update would actually feel like 3 months of work, but I super highly doubt that. I just dont understand, lets take Anduo for example (team behind Third Crisis) they are like 2-3 people and they still manage to launch every month an update which is actually satisfying. At this point I believe Mulan is either a super douch and just taking advantage because many people (including me) absolutely love the whole premise of the game, the art and all that or he is just YandereDev 2.0 and he is to ego maniac to realize that he needs help with this project, because he has a responsability to the 880 patreons (at the time of writing this) to deliver what he is promising, for short, shit like this is why a lot of people have trust issues with creators on patreon, they see shit like this being pulled of and that make people less likely to invest in creators that actually are capable to deliver the product in a decent amount of time.

 

[jonL]

last update was on 4th of june,

Btw june update had no new content, it was some part of old art redone.