RPGM Defenestration [v0.5j bug fix] [Fresh Mulan]

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Nymphonomicon

Nymphonomicon

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ray3dave said:
It is not possible to milk patreons because nobody gets forced to become or stay one.
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You forget, this is F95zone. People love to accuse game designers of being scam artists taking it easy off the cash of others. Building a game is easy peasy in the eyes of many people posting here, if you're not pumping out updates every other week, then clearly you are taking advantage of others. Surely writing a story, drawing all the art, coding, and testing a game should only take you a few days- and if you run into unforseen problems or have any difficulty delivering, you're just making excuses.
 
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Aaron A. Aaronsen

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ray3dave said:
It is not possible to milk patreons because nobody gets forced to become or stay one.
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That is assuming that there are no idiots. Some people are naive, others have low self-control and willpower. Add to that psychological effects like sunk cost, delayed gratification or impaired decision making while horny. Let's face it, we all have this friend with shitty self-control who has never saved a cent in his life ("I HAVE to buy those games but I have money again next month").

The truth is there are developers who do the least amount of work for the maximum amount of money and abuse stupid/addicted people. You can call that efficient. You can say that the people are adults with free will. I think it is still unethical.

However I don't think that the defenestration guys fall into that category. I think they are doing a great job, they just underestimated the amount of work doing a rework. They were backed by the patrons however, so everything is fine. I don't have any insight into the code, but from my experience doing something from scratch with new experience is often not much more time consuming than fixing old mistakes.
 
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frrrr

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Did they postpone it again?
New Progress Report is posted on Patreon, can somebody tell me what is it about?
 
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noctred

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They really just need to stop giving release dates.

Every time they fail a deadline they come back with "we are so sorry, we hate that this keeps happening" or whatever. The simple truth is that apologies lose value and meaning when you continue to do the same thing again, and again, and again, and again. At some point it just turns into a sad joke.

If you can't keep to your release dates on a more or less consistent basis, just stop giving release dates.
 
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It could be technical problems. I got one game with that kind clothes layer system, and it runs like... Well like shit. Name is Flash camping, it stutter a lot, same as latest version of Defenestration. You can check it out, not a bad game, but with technical problems. And yes, there is pretty complex system in that game. Layers, time tracking, weather system, maybe another thing. Can't remember. Have feeling unity engine would be better choice for project, just a hunch you know. Maybe there is way for solving issues, but could be engine just hit it's limits. Still I would not give any money if progress not made for so long.
 
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Torek

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just 'this week' but i would give it two weeks, after that, they wont say a release date, they will instead do a status report each week telling in which step they are on.
 
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