madchef

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No no no.
A "Freie Reichsstadt" was not autonomous. It was a direct subordinate of the emperor.
It was "free" from any obligations to neighboring counts, dukes or bishops. But this freedom was guaranteed by the emperor.
It was still bound by numerous laws, rules and customs.
If a "Freie Reichsstadt" ever had decided to enslave the neighboring peasants, it would have been obliterated before the emperor could have raised an eyebrow.
I never said that Imperial Free Cities were fully autonomous or dealt in slave trade, just mentioned that there were historical political entities which had 'free city' title in their names. As regards slavery, everybody knows that Italian city-states (mainly Venice, Genoa and Amalfi) were involved in early medieval slave trade, with a substantial portion of slaves being of Slavic origin (hence the term) and the Byzantine Empire and Arab Caliphates being the largest clients.
 
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I never said that Imperial Free Cities were fully autonomous or dealt in slave trade, just mentioned that there were historical political entities which had 'free city' title in their names. As regards slavery, everybody knows that Italian city-states (mainly Venice, Genoa and Amalfi) were involved in early medieval slave trade, with a substantial portion of slaves being of Slavic origin (hence the term) and the Byzantine Empire and Arab Caliphates being the largest clients.
There is a very high possibility that the creator of Free Cities was more inspired by the writings of game of thrones, instead of actual historical ones:


Then again, GoT itself draws a lot of inspiration from real life (stated by GRRM himself) to create a more authentic setting based on that historical period, so yes it can be said that it was indirectly inspired by those city-states of old.
 

madchef

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There is a very high possibility that the creator of Free Cities was more inspired by the writings of game of thrones, instead of actual historical ones:


Then again, GoT itself draws a lot of inspiration from real life (stated by GRRM himself) to create a more authentic setting based on that historical period, so yes it can be said that it was indirectly inspired by those city-states of old.
Yeah, the Song of Ice and Fire's Free Cities could also be an inspiration, although Martin's universe is a low-fantasy quasi-medieval-early modern world, while FC is set in a dystopian near future. Martin's Braavos is more or less Venetian La Serenissima (not to be confused with Serenissima Res Publica Poloniae).
 
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Braavos is more or less Venetian La Serenissima
Fifteenth Century Italy would be the perfect setting for Free Cities. The city-states were ruled by tyrants or cabals. Slavery was everywhere along with endlessly creative ways to torture them. The lords were often famous for being perverted psychos. Everyone was trying to kill eachother. You would lose the sci-fi stuff, but, meh.
 

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It exists. It is called Free Cities--an ironic game given that it is all about slavery.
Not when you realize it's got a lot of ancap shit in it and those types of dipshits are the exact kind of people to think that's representative of "true freedom" so long as it falls under some vague definition of "voluntary".
 
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Not when you realize it's got a lot of ancap shit in it and those types of dipshits are the exact kind of people to think that's representative of "true freedom" so long as it falls under some vague definition of "voluntary".
It is an irony that I suspect even the voluntarist developers are aware of. I mean, they are aware that the narrative that they are crafting is of a nightmarish dystopia that makes no real sense, just like Vrelnir is aware that he is doing the same with Degrees of Lewdity, althought Vrelnir at least gave Degrees of Lewdity an underlying--if hidden--logic, fantastical as it is.

I really want to find out more about East Rapechestershire. The story of the Ivory Wraith is a tantalizing glimpse at a history and internal logic that we have not yet been given.
 

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Is new update coming any time soon? Seems like around the time we would get one. Can't access their discord without phone tied to my account.
 

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Is new update coming any time soon? Seems like around the time we would get one. Can't access their discord without phone tied to my account.
there's never set deadlines, if an update is taking long, it's probably gonna be a big one or something happened in the meantime
 

Karkhel

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there's never set deadlines, if an update is taking long, it's probably gonna be a big one or something happened in the meantime
I didn't mean for this to came across as 'where the hell is the damn update' my bad if it did, just if anyone read any rumors/estimates on official discord. Either way thanks for responding.
 

ladguru

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I didn't mean for this to came across as 'where the hell is the damn update' my bad if it did, just if anyone read any rumors/estimates on official discord. Either way thanks for responding.
There are no secrets on Discord. At least not for commoners.
You can look at the release dates on the blog and make your own guess.
 

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There's something I've noticed recently and I'm wondering is it a bug for Kylar to not be getting any Jealousy from eating lunch with someone else when they're Jealousy stat is at zero, as it seems to never increase regardless if I do it with Robin or Sydney. Or does the value increase by such a small amount from that that it doesn't ever actually increase to 1% unless you completely ignore Kylar for a while?
 

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There's something I've noticed recently and I'm wondering is it a bug for Kylar to not be getting any Jealousy from eating lunch with someone else when they're Jealousy stat is at zero, as it seems to never increase regardless if I do it with Robin or Sydney. Or does the value increase by such a small amount from that that it doesn't ever actually increase to 1% unless you completely ignore Kylar for a while?
Dunno if intended or not, but the canteen-scenes do nor raise jealousy.
You can only lower it by eating with Kylar.
1% is already the smallest amount.
 

VespidV

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Dunno if intended or not, but the canteen-scenes do nor raise jealousy.
You can only lower it by eating with Kylar.
1% is already the smallest amount.
I know 1% is the smallest displayed amount on the social tab but I know that some values include a decimal value so I was just wondering if it might've been like a .5 increase or something like that so it never actually gets displayed.
 

ladguru

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I know 1% is the smallest displayed amount on the social tab but I know that some values include a decimal value so I was just wondering if it might've been like a .5 increase or something like that so it never actually gets displayed.
No, I really meant the smallest possible amount. There is no hidden 0.5%.
 

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Dunno if intended or not, but the canteen-scenes do nor raise jealousy.
You can only lower it by eating with Kylar.
1% is already the smallest amount.
Unless I missed something, that's a bug. Cause anytime I eat with Robin or Sydney, jealousy raises.

Edit: Yep!

You sit down next to Robin. "Hey," he says. "Thank you for sitting with me."

You have a pleasant chat with him while eating. "I'm going to wait in the classroom," he says when you're done. "I don't like being late." He hugs you.

Kylar watches from across the canteen. | + Jealousy

And using the cheat menu, the suspicion stat went up a point.
 
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VespidV

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Unless I missed something, that's a bug. Cause anytime I eat with Robin or Sydney, jealousy raises.

Edit: Yep!

You sit down next to Robin. "Hey," he says. "Thank you for sitting with me."

You have a pleasant chat with him while eating. "I'm going to wait in the classroom," he says when you're done. "I don't like being late." He hugs you.

Kylar watches from across the canteen. | + Jealousy

And using the cheat menu, the suspicion stat went up a point.
I don't have the cheat menu enabled so I can't say if it actually increases the number but it does show the "Kylar watches from across the canteen. | + Jealousy" bit like normally but it actually doesn't raise Kylar's Jealousy it'll just stay at 0. I do think it worked normally earlier though so it might just be an issue with a save so I'll try a new game tomorrow and see if it does it there too.

No, I really meant the smallest possible amount. There is no hidden 0.5%.
To be clear I wasn't saying that it was hiding the stat but that I was just wondering if it was possible that the value was rounding down back to zero or something.
 
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