HTML Degrees of Lewdity [v0.5.3.5] [Vrelnir]

[AriaZaia]

I was thinking: did Vrel ever said what they plan to include in the game? Not as "in the next release", more like: until the game is "finished", what features does they plan to add, even if just in the far future?

Not really, there's a few things Vrel's said is on the list for implementation but there's no concrete roadmap of all the things being planned

 

[madchef]

The truth is that it is a NETURAL perspective meant to slightly represent both while being neither.

I beg to differ on that, for a couple of reasons. The first one, fundamental, is that there is very little to none neutrality in gender. As much as the equalists in us would like it to be otherwise, gender differences are asymmetrical and the game's valiant attempts to make them symmetrical in some aspects, while (unwittingly) acknowledging asymmetry in other aspects make it (sometimes painfully) obvious. If this game at this stage of development was fully neutral in its treatment/representation of genders, then why:

- the PC's debauchery (either voluntary or non-voluntary) will affect the female PCs body more profoundly, further sexualizing the features traditionally ascribed to women - bigger breasts and buttocks? I haven't played as a male PC that long, so I am not sure whether his butt and boobs will grow as his Purity drops. I assume their penis would, but other than that?

- the NPCs, if not naturally equipped with penises, may be 'reinforced' with rubber phalli; couldn't a PC be assaulted by someone wearing a vagina dentata? That could then at least explain pain and trauma of having one's penis ruthlessly fucked.

- the first batch of horses introduced to the Farm not that many versions ago were studs, not mares? Wouldn't be because the default NPC's anatomy is penetrative, in other words, phallic?

- the two available sexual positions of the PC are decidedly receptive, which (will all due respect to all genders and their various expressions) are leaning to feminine more than masculine? As one of my male interlocutors beautifully expressed it, shooting himself in the foot in the process: 'it's not about femininity, it's about you being the bottom bitch regardless of gender'

- one of the biggest sources of insecurity for males - expressed even in this discussion - is absent? I am referring to emasculation. I am not that versed in English, so I have to ask if there is a female equivalent of emasculation. The entire genre of gender-bending games exploit that theme to the hilt. DoL seems to shy away from it or turns it upside-down at moments.

- and finally, why is implementation of pregnancy the most expectant (pun intended) future update? If implemented, will it be able for male PCs to become pregnant just like that, because this Town is where there be tentacles, ear-slimes and dolphin rapes?

But i can assume it's like that for the females as well.

Yeah, probably, though we may never find out. I'd myself consider an expert handjob performed by a female on a male to be quite an assertive act. Of course it depends on context but it's one of those instances where a penis would remain stationary, thus not proving any significant driving force to the act. A lot of Dommes would use it to reward or tease / orgasm-control a male sub. And there's this scene in 'The Master' where Amy Adams' character jerks off Philip Seymour Hoffman's and there's no doubt she has him by the balls. It would improve the sex combat's realism a lot if higher levels of expertise with given body parts employed on your assailant's / partner's given body parts yielded different results on the Submissive / Defiant (or Assertive) scale: surviving an ass-ault with F+ anal skill could be an act of submission while an S-level, wilful, vigorous fucking back with your backdoor would grant you the title of Ass Kink and Queen And that could be a way to 'win' this game the 'slutty' style. Which does happen in real life.

I play as a female mainly because....

No need to explain the male gaze. You play it the way that most players play it. Which is similar to the way most porn is watched: a male watches an anonymous woman getting fucked by a number of anonymous dicks. Only this game lets you be the director of that movie and decide how exactly X-rated it should be. 'Degrees of Lewdity' is quite an apt title.

 

[Midge]

1)I beg to differ on that, for a couple of reasons. The first one, fundamental, is that there is very little to none neutrality in gender. As much as the equalists in us would like it to be otherwise, gender differences are asymmetrical and the game's valiant attempts to make them symmetrical in some aspects, while (unwittingly) acknowledging asymmetry in other aspects make it (sometimes painfully) obvious. If this game at this stage of development was fully neutral in its treatment/representation of genders, then why:
2) the PC's debauchery (either voluntary or non-voluntary) will affect the female PCs body more profoundly, further sexualizing the features traditionally ascribed to women - bigger breasts and buttocks? I haven't played as a male PC that long, so I am not sure whether his butt and boobs will grow as his Purity drops. I assume their penis would, but other than that?
3) the NPCs, if not naturally equipped with penises, may be 'reinforced' with rubber phalli; couldn't a PC be assaulted by someone wearing a vagina dentata? That could then at least explain pain and trauma of having one's penis ruthlessly fucked.
4) the first batch of horses introduced to the Farm not that many versions ago were studs, not mares? Wouldn't be because the default NPC's anatomy is penetrative, in other words, phallic?
5) the two available sexual positions of the PC are decidedly receptive, which (will all due respect to all genders and their various expressions) are leaning to feminine more than masculine? As one of my male interlocutors beautifully expressed it, shooting himself in the foot in the process: 'it's not about femininity, it's about you being the bottom bitch regardless of gender'
6)one of the biggest sources of insecurity for males - expressed even in this discussion - is absent? I am referring to emasculation. I am not that versed in English, so I have to ask if there is a female equivalent of emasculation. The entire genre of gender-bending games exploit that theme to the hilt. DoL seems to shy away from it or turns it upside-down at moments.
7)and finally, why is implementation of pregnancy the most expectant (pun intended) future update? If implemented, will it be able for male PCs to become pregnant just like that, because this Town is where there be tentacles, ear-slimes and dolphin rapes?
8)Yeah, probably, though we may never find out. I'd myself consider an expert handjob performed by a female on a male to be quite an assertive act. Of course it depends on context but it's one of those instances where a penis would remain stationary, thus not proving any significant driving force to the act. A lot of Dommes would use it to reward or tease / orgasm-control a male sub. And there's this scene in 'The Master' where Amy Adams' character jerks off Philip Seymour Hoffman's and there's no doubt she has him by the balls. It would improve the sex combat's realism a lot if higher levels of expertise with given body parts employed on your assailant's / partner's given body parts yielded different results on the Submissive / Defiant (or Assertive) scale: surviving an ass-ault with F+ anal skill could be an act of submission while an S-level, wilful, vigorous fucking back with your backdoor would grant you the title of Ass Kink and Queen And that could be a way to 'win' this game the 'slutty' style. Which does happen in real life.
9)No need to explain the male gaze. You play it the way that most players play it. Which is similar to the way most porn is watched: a male watches an anonymous woman getting fucked by a number of anonymous dicks. Only this game lets you be the director of that movie and decide how exactly X-rated it should be. 'Degrees of Lewdity' is quite an apt title.

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[Kinky_One]

Say: is there an easy way to get slimes parasites? Not the ear one, the normal ones. Running from Morgan in the sewers is pretty tedious

 

[CaptainBipto]

Say: is there an easy way to get slimes parasites? Not the ear one, the normal ones. Running from Morgan in the sewers is pretty tedious

You shouldn't need to run around in the sub sewer to 'get slimed'. You should be able to encounter slimes in the normal sewer tunnels. I will add that you stand a much better chance of encountering slimes (or lizards and eels) during a rainstorm, than during a sunny day.
If you are hallucinating you can have a slime/tentacle encounter in the bath at the orphanage, I am not sure if you can get slime parasites from that encounter though.

 

[CaptainBipto]

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- the PC's debauchery (either voluntary or non-voluntary) will affect the female PCs body more profoundly, further sexualizing the features traditionally ascribed to women - bigger breasts and buttocks? I haven't played as a male PC that long, so I am not sure whether his butt and boobs will grow as his Purity drops. I assume their penis would, but other than that?

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I don't want to get caught up in the middle of your discussion with Midge here, just providing a bit of info you were asking about above.
As the purity of a male decreases, yes, your male character will start growing boobs and a bigger butt, features traditionally ascribed to women, AND their penis can start shrinking as well.
I am not sure if it is due purely to your purity level or if it is a combination of purity and 'taking it' instead of 'giving it'. All I can say is that, over 3 or 4 months of game time, my male PC has grown a noticable rack, a badonkadonk, and I am trying to fight the 'shrinkage' that is occurring as well. This is all on a character that goes down swinging, pretty much every fight, even the ones I know I can't win.

 

[RevontuletCXVII]

Latest update broke tail visual for cat transformation in sex scenes :/

 

[JenaiyaSovari]

Does anyone else have this bug:
If I select "stop" instead of "rub" while giving a foot job, the assailant/partner continues rubbing their penis against my feet and I can no longer take any actions with this person except generic hand and mouth options (stroke, punch, moan, kiss, etc.). This lasts for the rest of the encounter, the assailant/partner never does anything else with their penis, and their arousal buildup slows to a crawl (presumably because the most I can do at this point is stroke their skin and moan).

 

[JenaiyaSovari]

Another bug that has probably already been reported:
When a pig mounts my face, a wolf sprite is displayed instead.
This happens at the farm, but I haven't verified if it also occurs in the brothel or forest.

 

[Midge]

Another bug that has probably already been reported:
When a pig mounts my face, a wolf sprite is displayed instead.
This happens at the farm, but I haven't verified if it also occurs in the brothel or forest.

This happens alot and the close ups for animals licking you is always the "dog" face and not the propper animals. It takes me out of it whenever i see it but thems the breaks.

 

[madchef]

Does anyone else have this bug:
If I select "stop" instead of "rub" while giving a foot job, the assailant/partner continues rubbing their penis against my feet and ...

Same here. The PC looses most of their initiative while the NPCs penis is still locked between the feet. This pisses them off and also damages your assertiveness within the encounter. Interestingly enough, you can do whatever you want with your feet as long as the assailant/partner has a pussy.

 

[Randomnatus]

This game is so heavily geared up towards submission you don't ever get a choice on the matter. I don't understand why it even has stats like defiance or "control" when you can't choose a pose even when it's consensual. It's misleading.
Very disappointing, for the amount of content it has as a simulator. Meh.

 

[Furabia]

I wish this thread had some form of robot auto-moderator that would insta remove dead horse topics such as "domitant gameplay", "pregnancy" and the like.

That bot would probably remove about 50% of all the posts right away tough lol

 

[Midge]

I wish this thread had some form of robot auto-moderator that would insta remove dead horse topics such as "domitant gameplay", "pregnancy" and the like.

That bot would probably remove about 50% of all the posts right away tough lol

But then....what would we talk about?
I can only tell noobs so often the best strats before i have to say just go look at the wiki or use the "search" function.

 

[Trapquest]

I mean, it is interesting how hard it is to direct the flow of any sexual encounter a certain way with certain things though. Grinding up skill with breastplay/titfucking is super difficult and tedious, and even intentionally going for oral sex can be overly difficult at times if you're playing with a lot of shemales/futa because they got a boner for forced breastfeeding.

Even in consensual sex, the only avenue for actually taking any initiative for even submissive sex is by asking for the other party NOT to do every other possibility, which is such a pain in the ass I can't imagine somebody doing it. The game would benefit I think, from a system similar to the bratty requests that instead tries to seduce the other party into doing something you want, like "Fuck my mouth/tits/ass/pussy" or "Gib mommy milkies" etc etc etc. I don't think it would be overpowered if it had a difficulty check defined by how aggressive, pissed, or excited other characters are.

It would also be neat if certain character archetypes had a preference for certain actions more than others, like students from the school being more inclined to suck your nipples, and adults being more inclined to try and make you breastfeed, people from the church wanting to fuck your asshole more, and people from the city wanting to fuck your penis/pussy more. But, all of that would require significant development time, the game is already pretty built up so I can't complain about what's already there.

 

[Jackie the ripper]

i wonder... What about a slimegirl transformation?

it could be a rare one you get after being covered in slime for a week or something like that

 

[1tomadeira]

Let me just ask something not related to the current:

Is there an easy way to lose willpower? Because i seem to gain a lot just by virtue of cumming.

Actually I can somewhat agree of this. A cum-addict MC shouldn't increase on willpower, but decrease. Specially if we go deeper into the submission route.

This game is so heavily geared up towards submission you don't ever get a choice on the matter. I don't understand why it even has stats like defiance or "control" when you can't choose a pose even when it's consensual. It's misleading.
Very disappointing, for the amount of content it has as a simulator. Meh.

You know, you need to upgrade the stats. You're nothing but a small student at start, you need to be smart. The game doesn't have an enemy level up, their power remains the same, it's you who levels up. That's why the game seems tough at start.

I wish this thread had some form of robot auto-moderator that would insta remove dead horse topics such as "domitant gameplay", "pregnancy" and the like.

That bot would probably remove about 50% of all the posts right away tough lol

Yes, but the issue is that some do provide some points or even discussion to the table. My only complain is people who spam for content without even bothering to read the thread or to think of reasons why "x content" wasn't applied yet.

 

[Mishun]

i can't save progress, when i am trying to save i have

 

[PurityGuy]

You know, you need to upgrade the stats. You're nothing but a small student at start, you need to be smart. The game doesn't have an enemy level up, their power remains the same, it's you who levels up. That's why the game seems tough at start.



Yes, but the issue is that some do provide some points or even discussion to the table. My only complain is people who spam for content without even bothering to read the thread or to think of reasons why "x content" wasn't applied yet.

The game's difficulty curve mainly revolves around three things:
(1.): Bailey. Self-explanatory, but currently too easy to avoid or beat up once certain mechanics are understood by the player.
(2.): Beauty. It's always increasing over time, unless the player has very high Trauma, at which point it starts to decay. This is probably the most balanced difficulty curve in the game, it's gradual and very fair, and even slacks back for players having a hard time.
(3.): Fame. There is currently no way to get rid of fame, only prevent it from happening to begin with.
Both Beauty and Fame increase encounter rate and danger, so the game's difficulty becomes more about being swarmed and taken on what much of the community has dubbed the "Trauma Train".
There's currently a bit of a joke in the community, which states that every time someone asks for pregnancy, Vrel delays another update.

 

[Midge]

I mean, it is interesting how hard it is to direct the flow of any sexual encounter a certain way with certain things though. Grinding up skill with breastplay/titfucking is super difficult and tedious, and even intentionally going for oral sex can be overly difficult at times if you're playing with a lot of shemales/futa because they got a boner for forced breastfeeding.

Even in consensual sex, the only avenue for actually taking any initiative for even submissive sex is by asking for the other party NOT to do every other possibility, which is such a pain in the ass I can't imagine somebody doing it. The game would benefit I think, from a system similar to the bratty requests that instead tries to seduce the other party into doing something you want, like "Fuck my mouth/tits/ass/pussy" or "Gib mommy milkies" etc etc etc. I don't think it would be overpowered if it had a difficulty check defined by how aggressive, pissed, or excited other characters are.

It would also be neat if certain character archetypes had a preference for certain actions more than others, like students from the school being more inclined to suck your nipples, and adults being more inclined to try and make you breastfeed, people from the church wanting to fuck your asshole more, and people from the city wanting to fuck your penis/pussy more. But, all of that would require significant development time, the game is already pretty built up so I can't complain about what's already there.

For me once an NPC gets in front of my mouth it's good bye oral verginity no mater what i do(besides screaming in the day time) but Vrel has said we are getting a overhaul to the combat stuff especially more consential options(feel free to correct me Vrel) so hopefully that stuff will get dealt with but who knows when all that wil get put in.