Klolita

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Jul 23, 2017
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are we ever going to get gameplay updates like the combat overhaul you talked about or are we just stuck in perpetual "contributor update" hell that is just love interest shit from mentally ill discord users.
They've already worked on converting the combat images to canvas, next step is new combat images, then new combat code
So it's def gonna be a bit
I'd say ignore the game for like a year or so if you don't wanna play without new combat
 

Amellia

Newbie
Jan 3, 2021
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how comes you can edit breast size and their sensitivity but during combat they don't appear at all. it doesnt make sense to me... that you can hold hands during battle but can't lead them to your breasts for instance. with enough deviancy or prominiscuity you can give them a titjob if they hover in front of your face is all. other than that its completely random if they ever touch your chest at all.
you can fondle yourself in the bath at your breasts but you can't do it during battle? also "target yourself" option is kinda wierd and only appears during battles against more than one person?
 

Klolita

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Jul 23, 2017
135
105
how comes you can edit breast size and their sensitivity but during combat they don't appear at all. it doesnt make sense to me... that you can hold hands during battle but can't lead them to your breasts for instance. with enough deviancy or prominiscuity you can give them a titjob if they hover in front of your face is all. other than that its completely random if they ever touch your chest at all.
you can fondle yourself in the bath at your breasts but you can't do it during battle? also "target yourself" option is kinda wierd and only appears during battles against more than one person?
is there still no way or any mod that adds the option to move your penis to an NPC lips AKA reliably get a blowjob?
Combat code is a mess basically wait for the rework
 

Axvz

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Mar 25, 2021
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Honestly this game is cool (speaking as someone who used to work on the game), but the progress these days is just so mind bogglingly slow it's insane.
Don't want to jinx it but dev is probably stuck at the dead end with "you will never be an agressor" rule. So that's why game gets mostly some small additions from contributors and no big expansions. I mean, it's kinda hard to add something new when you're limited to activities like "you grind specific skill for this specific activity(optional) and get raped on defeat(mandatory)".
 

retardo

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Sep 17, 2017
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I mean, it's not hard to write more rape scenes, but it's really hard to write all the love interest shit being crammed into the game when the only sex in the game is made for you to be raped, which is why I don't understand the intense focus on it.
 
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The issue the game has are simpler than that, which, again, I say as someone who actively wrote some of it: you don't have the liberty you think you do.
There's just a LOT to keep in mind when you write for DOL.

It has to fit the overall narrative (as people have mentioned, this includes that consensual sex is a pretty tough, and dominant sex is basically a no); it has to fit in the world technically (which is something Vrel usually does himself, and is a shitload of work); you have to make sure every possibility is covered (male/female Robin, just to name something, but also m/m mc/robin, m/f, f/f/, f/m, etc.), not to mention herm; you have to make sure you don't write anything that hints at kids (which, to be fair, I' was a huge proponent of, because it's how DOL stays just ambiguous enough); you have to make sure the entire thing doesn't sound disjoint from the other entries of the game; ...

TL;DR most people don't manage more than a few simple scenes. For good reasons. I helped with one of the least visited parts of the game, I'm sure, and whenever I revisit the game I realize just how much effort went to waste there. Talking literal months of effort, for barely any result (which I'm to blame for, I wrote it).

I love Vrel for the effort they've done on DOL but it just feels really stagnate right now. And I truly hope people keep experiencing this game for the first time(s) and loving it, I guess it's just not for me anymore.
 

yo75z

New Member
Feb 27, 2020
11
6
Somehow someway downloading this game off F95 zone is easier to do than from the original source...
 

AkagiVoid

Active Member
Feb 12, 2020
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Can multiple mods be installed? ?w?
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Want install "BunnyTF", "Dragon Mod", "Fire", and "DoLPlus". :3
 
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Amhran

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Mar 22, 2022
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The issue the game has are simpler than that, which, again, I say as someone who actively wrote some of it: you don't have the liberty you think you do.
There's just a LOT to keep in mind when you write for DOL.

It has to fit the overall narrative (as people have mentioned, this includes that consensual sex is a pretty tough, and dominant sex is basically a no); it has to fit in the world technically (which is something Vrel usually does himself, and is a shitload of work); you have to make sure every possibility is covered (male/female Robin, just to name something, but also m/m mc/robin, m/f, f/f/, f/m, etc.), not to mention herm; you have to make sure you don't write anything that hints at kids (which, to be fair, I' was a huge proponent of, because it's how DOL stays just ambiguous enough); you have to make sure the entire thing doesn't sound disjoint from the other entries of the game; ...

TL;DR most people don't manage more than a few simple scenes. For good reasons. I helped with one of the least visited parts of the game, I'm sure, and whenever I revisit the game I realize just how much effort went to waste there. Talking literal months of effort, for barely any result (which I'm to blame for, I wrote it).

I love Vrel for the effort they've done on DOL but it just feels really stagnate right now. And I truly hope people keep experiencing this game for the first time(s) and loving it, I guess it's just not for me anymore.
I've previously made mention of limitations of choice and "player freedom", so it's kind of nice to see someone who did some development on the game kind of back up why there will always be fundamental difficulties with this kind of design philosophy, even if it's from a bit of a different angle. Shit, if I had to try to write scenes and always make them vague enough that it works for all types of characters no matter who/what is involved OR if I had to start writing alternative versions to cover all the different major variations, I'd probably give up pretty damned fast too. It sounds both very obnoxious and limiting, which has to make it frustrating to always work inside that framework.

I think at some point, we have to recognize that any game, even a living and still developing game like DoL, is ultimately still just a game, and every game has its core strengths and weaknesses, and those weaknesses will inevitably start to feel very amplified if you spend enough time ramming your head against them. It'd be nice if we could selectively erase parts of our brains so that we could experience things for the first time again, but we all stop playing what were once our favorite games (and watching our favorite movies, reading our favorite books, listening to our favorite music albums, etc.) eventually...even if we come back to them again years down the line. Too much repetition without new and interesting variations becomes predictable becomes rote and mindless becomes tired and painful becomes existential boredom and terror, it's just how we work. Life would be a lot simpler for everyone if it wasn't, though.
 

AkagiVoid

Active Member
Feb 12, 2020
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For those who want to get the VrelCoins (whitout playing the game):
- press f12
- go to console
- type "SugarCube.State.active.variables.feats.allSaves.points=[desired amount]" (without the [])
Its not working 4 meh. Owo NVM, fixed it. >w<
 
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