I will try to clarify from my bad English that I constantly use a translator.
1- Claire's scene ---> I show the first part so that the user knows that the teacher is blackmailing her and she accepts because it is convenient for her. (2nd part is avoidable).
2- The second time Claire goes to see the director: ----> The first part I show you because I want to show the user that the MC has caught them. Why? because it's a gap in the story where from then on paths like blackmail are opened (2part is avoidable that by the way I made a vote in patreon and the patrons pied it).
I should have put a warty old woman to see if she is also a Li....
3- You won't see any scene where another character fucks another character.... (The first scene of the director looks like he fucks her but I cut it. So maybe he fucked her or he kicked her and left. Your imagination decides). If you will see any attempt or any touching.... Why? because of what I said before, the idea is to turn it around with trickery, revenge, manipulation or some surprise? But there will never be penetration and if there is, which I doubt, there will be a label if you want to avoid it (that's why I ask when it becomes NTR? caressing the belly is NTR? caressing the ass is NTR? looking with the eyes is NTR?...).
If I don't show that it's impossible to create a story, it's that clear.
I am constantly reading very nasty comments. NTR death, to the stake!!! you fucked up your game! Dreams fuck up your game... I give you one star less because there is no discord.
The reality is that the MC will take all the girls one way or another....
But as I said the game consumes me an impressive amount of time and the comments in 90% are toxic and dent my morale.
I was warned about the NTR but I didn't know to this extreme level.
(Which for me is not NTR because the MC barely knows Claire but for you guys it is because every girl you see is a li.... )
For you guys touching a boob is NTR? at what point does it become NTR? It is not clear to me. I try to give life to the story but if the MC is the only man in the game then I can't develop much of a story...
4- I've been animating practically the whole game and making renders for each conversation. Other games don't do that even as a joke. I have seen that it has not been valued so I discard that from now on.
5- I would have preferred, hey Dev, add another block to not see Claire at all.... But no, just shit after shit... so you only win that I don't want to do the game.
6- . We believe that we have made impressive and very worked sex scenes that we haven't heard anything... The first scene of Claire has hundreds of renders and the second scene almost the same. We play with the clothes with the difficulty that it takes, in other games magically disappears and an endless number of other things ...
I understand that those scenes are not important because it is not the MC, but it was a demonstration to show the quality of them. And the one who says they are redundant is right.
7- If there were no dreams and if there were no things like this we would be on the subject that there is no sex... and another war... The one who says the dreams fucked up the scenes has no idea. When you see a scene from the real MC we'll give it all away. In the dream you didn't see the pussy or anything.... We only tried to transmit the obsession of the character.
I had very clear that this game would be very expensive to make because there are many areas, many girls, courses, objects and many things more and that has the handicap that I can only focus on 1 girl or 2 ... because if I focus on all would not see anything until version 10.
Why did I say that if you like it, support it? For the same reason that I can't spend 1 year making a game until the stories of the girls are more or less in order and the people will support it or not... Because for that, I focus on another project if I see comments like that.
8-There are many girls and each one has her story and her way to get it, so your crystal ball works badly.
I'm probably leaving something out and every time I say something it seems like we start another debate as if it were a salsa rosa show.
1.So the first scene with Claire (which is a LI) is not avoidable and therefore its NTR. Thanks for the clarification.
I kinda get what you want to do with the story. Claire is more of a Bitch/Whore type of character since she did it because its
"convenient for her".
Since its a Sandbox game I wont mind this short NTR scene aslong you can avoid her completely in the game from that point on.
2.There are other good options to start blackmailing a LI without having them fucking another people. But its your Character and your story but its a big deal breaker for others...like you saw in the forum.
I just dont get why MC is forced to look them banging in the first scene and not giving the Player the option to intervene right there ? With that you not only can blackmail her and the Director but also avoided the NTR...
The problem is even before the game really starts the "cataclyst" (the first scene) is a big No for many.
At least the second and (probably) any other content of her is avoidable and not only skippable.
"I should have put a warty old woman to see if she is also a Li"
-Haha, I doubt that but you do you.
3."You won't see any scene where another character fucks another character.... (The first scene of the director looks like he fucks her but I cut it."
So its avoidable now. As long nothing is hinted that they were really fucking and, like you said "its up to my imagination" I gonna try this game now since the Big Deal breaker is now fixed.
The NTR thing:
Everybody will have their own interpretation about it but what I can say for sure is that:
-No Penetration should happen (BJ is kinda risky but It depends on the situation)
-Showing of LI Disgust in the situation (There are a difference if a LI is forced to do but not liking it or like you said, it was "convenient for her" which makes her irredeemable for many others and thats why it becomes NTR)
So by your suggestions: caressing the belly is fine, caressing the ass is fine and looking in the eyes is total fine aslong she shows signs of disgust. Of course no penetration from that point on.
4.Can confirm nor deny it. Reason is like I said, unavoidable content is a hard deal break for many and thats probably one big reason not many cant or wont try your game out and cant give you the recognition for your renders and animations. After Im done with the reply I gonna try your game.
5. Yes, that would be nice but I doubt it would have changed much. People dont want just to "block" the scene, they want to avoid it. And there were this whole fiasco about the Tags. I already posted in another comments here that people really get butthurt about NTR content, even more if they are not warned before and experience during the game.
If you want to continue or give up on the project is up to you. Even if the game should be not to me, there are probably others who like your game. Its just that you kinda fucked it up in the beginning which started the the whole shitshow and other here in the comments are to blame (me too) but it is what it is. You should listen what the audience have to say but dont let them have you influce to much. Sure I like that the NTR content is avoidable (I hope) so in my eyes you get already here a +1 Point.
I get where you stand as a Dev. and It seems you really put hard work into it and not only I repect that but also find it amazing (8-10h for 5-6 days every week is indeed a massive task), but you also should understand where these people stand.
6.Can confirm nor deny it. Once Im done I gonna try it for myself.
Variation between clothes sounds nice since its it makes the Chracters more alive.
Sadly if the only sex scenes are out there and they are not with the MC, how do you expect that people who dont like NTR gonna watch it and praise it ? Even if they are top nouche, the point that it was some one else can downplay it heavely.
7.I dont get what you want to say with that. I guess ingame we have a Dream scene where we have a sex scene ?
From the comment you say that MC is a horny dude. Nothing wrong with that but I guess the content is what people made them upset ? From the comments before I remember it was the scene where MC masturbates and was thinking about his mother ass. I see no problem with that.
I see Dream scenes used in many games as "foreshadowing" for many sex scenes.
Like its totaly understandable that MC wont have sex with his own mother that early on, but when he is dreaming you can impliment this one sex scene with her. And since its not reality, you can experience with many fetishes, yes even with NTR aslong you give the player the option not to watch it.
8.Cant remember anyone here saying that all chicks will be here the same. I personally expect a variety of different LI and her personalities. Its just for people like me who played already so many game that we already saw almost everything and its more what is predictable.
Reidlo
If I would be honest with you, dont take it to serious what happen here.
Listening to the audience is nice and dandy but if you go crazy over it not only you will harm your health but also the people who like and support your game.
If you decide to continue working on it, continue what you did before because it seems you have already some following on your patreon. If you decide to drop it and work one a new one, just remember what you learned from this whole carnival and try to avoid the mistakes you prior did.
Well, im off to try it myself now.
