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Sum Fu King Gai Thanks for the review.

If you don't mind me asking, what about the combat felt grindy? I increased exp quite a bit over various updates, and added an accessory that can increase it further. I was actually a little worried that players would level too fast that they'd miss a ton of content.


What would you recommend I change? Thanks again!
 
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I assumed that fighting (not seduction) was a viable path, getting items to level up all gear is silly, if you added a "Hunt" option that gave you better odds of finding a specific enemy that drops the loot you need it would be nice. Example; I never saw the Bone Centipede in all my time doing the mountain day events, I had to look in my bestiary just to realize I missed a monster.

Everything after this is just me venting btw. I really liked the writing and having all agency pulled out from under me after the game presenting choices at the start burned me.

This is just my point of view, I consider the game to be close to a Visual Novel it the story telling. You really only have one path, even when presented with choices, they seem to be all 'illusion of choice'. Other then the Allurane quest, and that stands out because no other enemy gives you the Kill or Spare choice.

I admit I gave up before finishing chapter 2 because I had every thing on the mountain day and night, and the game kept telling me I needed to "finish business in town." It turned out because I declined going to the party with Azrael, because I was playing as a reluctant Succubus, I could not progress. It's like a when a corruption game goes from strong warrior to super slut after one stranger grabs her ass.
 

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I assumed that fighting (not seduction) was a viable path, getting items to level up all gear is silly, if you added a "Hunt" option that gave you better odds of finding a specific enemy that drops the loot you need it would be nice. Example; I never saw the Bone Centipede in all my time doing the mountain day events, I had to look in my bestiary just to realize I missed a monster.
I think when I first started making the game a couple years ago that was what I had in mind, allowing you to avoid accepting your role. But a lot of my ideas and plans changed for various reasons, plenty of them because I had to narrow the scope of my ideas because otherwise the game would never get completed.

The hunt idea isn't bad, I might do something with that. Maybe once you clear an area you can 'hunt' specific monsters with a higher chance of them appearing.


Everything after this is just me venting btw. I really liked the writing and having all agency pulled out from under me after the game presenting choices at the start burned me.
I totally get that. I was kind of thinking of the game like mass effect. The main story is still linear, but you can make changes to the main story based on choices along the way. But I understand that's not everyone's cup of tea. Every time I wanted to branch the story in a different direction I had to come to terms with what I was capable of by myself and scrap or modify it.

(one of the big branches would have been at the end of chapter 3. I had originally intended for the protagonist to get captured if Rhelyla was unable to save them. This would have resulted in chapter 4 taking place in the Holy Kingdom instead of returning to Blackpool. Ultimately I scrapped that cause I just didn't see me ever finishing the game if I had to double my workload by creating two seperate stories from that point on).

One thing I needed to learn from JP visual novels is the ones with good stories tend to have fewer choices. The more choices and more branching paths you have, the more the story suffers (in most cases). Since I care more about delivering a good story than about just selling a smut game, I want to stick with what I enjoy (storytelling) and what I'm not terrible at.
Another is too many sex scenes. They're not treated as a reward in this game since they're so common, unlike JP visual novels you get rewarded for your actions. (Well, depends on the novel).


It turned out because I declined going to the party with Azrael, because I was playing as a reluctant Succubus, I could not progress.
This is a decision I still regret which was a result of trying to make more paths than I could handle. I wanted to let the player continue regardless of their decision to help Rhelyla / Azrael.
I have been wanting to go back and make changes to this, but I think the changes required might be too big to handle. And overall there are so many variables that are affected there that I'm fairly confident if I change anything regarding that, I'll end up breaking the game.



Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it!
I've learned a lot from making this game and while I will probably have to stick to semi-linear stories with modified scenes based on decisions for the near future, I have learned a lot of ways to do better in my next game. :)
 
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Yeah, I think it's a good story, just not for me. Also I think Mass Effect had a pretty bad choice system, blow up the Citadel or not? Eh, just replace the council with almost the same people... Mass Effect, imo was good for the character writing and acting, it was about Commander Sheppard and crew, not a player character.

RPG's are weird like that, sometimes you make the character and sometime you play as them, I just happen to prefer games like OG Fallout's

Goodluck though, hope things end up in a spot you are satisfied with.

(And maybe remove the note saying "You have to finish Azrael's party, a different path will be added later")
 
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Version 0.66 is up on my website!


This update has a ton of new content Courtesy of Eins.

A lot of these scenes require a save file from the beginning of chapter 4.

Spoiler heavy steps to see each scene:

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So since I'm switching computers and that will take me a pretty long time to finish transferring data, I'm uploading version 0.66 early for free.

Here's the mega link:



Not included in the Changelog is that all of Rhelyla's images have been replaced with improved graphics, since a lot of her images were over 2 years old and I and AI have both improved.
Additionally I've corrected a mispelling in her name that I didn't notice until now.
Lastly I've updated her dialogue quite a bit to better reflect her speech patterns.
 
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> I totally get that. I was kind of thinking of the game like mass effect. The main story is still linear, but you can make changes to the main story based on choices along the way. But I understand that's not everyone's cup of tea. Every time I wanted to branch the story in a different direction I had to come to terms with what I was capable of by myself and scrap or modify it.

This is a critical part of any software dev project and torpedos more projects than anything when devs can't do it.

Getting : Error: the passage "case" does not exist on the final riddle in the forest dungeon with the right answer.
 

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Getting : Error: the passage "case" does not exist on the final riddle in the forest dungeon with the right answer.
Are you by any chance hitting enter instead of clicking the button?


Though I believe I disabled that for the second set of riddles, but I can't remember if I fixed it for the first set.


Either way, I'll take a look tomorrow to double check if that's not the issue.

Edit: I've confirmed that's what is happening.
Don't click enter, instead click the continue button at the bottom.

I need to fix that this month since this occasionally causes confusion.
Fixed, but won't appear in the free version until 06/03 release.
 
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I killed the Arachne Queen a long time ago, and I have overwritten my save since then. Could someone please provide me with a save file that has her alive?
 
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I killed the Arachne Queen a long time ago, and I have overwritten my save since then. Could someone please provide me with a save file that has her alive?
No lol, deal with it. :LUL::coffee:
Perhaps next time you'll be more attentive instead of charging in guns blazing. :sneaky::coffee:
 
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I killed the Arachne Queen a long time ago, and I have overwritten my save since then. Could someone please provide me with a save file that has her alive?
Replayability is all about discovering secrets!


Maybe you mean the Whispering Breeze path not the windy path?
Probably, I never remember the things I name without double checking.
 

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Version 0.66 is up on my website!


This update has a ton of new content Courtesy of Eins.

A lot of these scenes require a save file from the beginning of chapter 4.

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I see high corruption blocks some events, is there not an alternative ? Otherwise oof for me :s

TF talk.. is that talking about previous lives as switched genders, ? I was realy hoping if you could have an indepth talk with Scyllus about the gender switching and hears his opinions switching. I was going to bring it up, but never got around to it.. is this is what its about ?

Also, in fine with them becoming fuck buddies, fucking on the spur of the moment, or if they loose control at times. So if your not romancing , then nothing else happens ?
 
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I see high corruption blocks some events, is there not an alternative ? Otherwise oof for me :s
Yeah, high corruption does block a relationship with Scyllus. Given Scyllus is an Incubus I kinda wanted him to be neutral and not care too much other than raising an eyebrow if the protagonist acts a little too evil in his presence. Same with Rhelyla. Although she's very empathetic, I kinda see her as someone who doesn't care if the protagonist is good or evil.

That said, you can still sleep with Scyllus, and do several events with him.

TF talk.. is that talking about previous lives as switched genders, ? I was realy hoping if you could have an indepth talk with Scyllus about the gender switching and hears his opinions switching. I was going to bring it up, but never got around to it.. is this is what its about ? I actually did have a scene in mind that could play out between the two of them, , but I didnt want to be pushy with ideas <.<
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I actually did have a scene in mind that could play out between the two of them, , but I didnt want to be pushy with ideas <.<
By all means, go ahead.
I accept donated scenes and suggestions. The game is already massively different than it started because of many suggestions I've received. In fact voidtraveler has offered a ton of ideas that have been implemented into some of the earlier parts of the game.

I do have people get very pushy and sometimes refuse to accept there are things I will not add (such as bestiality).

Also, in fine with them becoming fuck buddies, fucking on the spur of the moment, or if they loose control at times. So if your not romancing , then nothing else happens ?
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