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This game is absurdly good, one of the best I've played. The only thing I didn't like is that there is a false sense of choice. For example, If you kill the elf you just lose content. It seems that there is a right way to play the game, which is letting anyone to live and accepting all slaves. It should have exclusive scenes for the other choices, for example, you just get the redhair slave if you sided with the decayed (In the current version, I got the redhaired slave anyway).

The choices should play like this: If you give the relic to the queen, you'll get the blond slave. If you help the elf, you'll get the demi human path. If you side with the decayed, you get the redhair girl. If you save the elf and keep the relic, you'll be unable to get the redhair slave. If you save the elf and sell the relic, you won't be able to get the blond slave.
this choices are pretty much as you said but the reason we get the redhair slave is because the trader at the decayed base where the old mentor is at sells her to us. so we essentially got two ways of getting the redhair slave.

so yeah you dont have to side with the decayed to get the redhair girl as there are more then one ways to get her.
 
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Hisakatana

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let me get this straight.
you have attacked Asani (the black girl) first, and then killed the dude...and you still saw her in the search for a new vehicle?

that should not be possible...
we'll check to see if it's a bug or something broke someplace else.
I have v0.06 and not v0.06b, but I also got this and am able to replicate it. Since I didn't notice anything in the changelog about this being addressed I imagine it's the same for 0.06b.
 
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Craftomega

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You can remove the inconsistent stepmom/stepdad and mom/dad by changing all instances of:

[dad!c] to [persistent.dad]
[mom!c] to [persistent.mom]

within the \game\scripts .rpy files.
 

Chakas

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I'm in love with this game, one of the best i ever played. Love the setting, characters and the story is promissing. Can't wait to see more of it
 
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Chakas

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I'm in love with this game, one of the best i ever played. Love the setting, characters and the story is promissing. Can't wait to see more of it
 
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Cynicaladm

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You can remove the inconsistent stepmom/stepdad and mom/dad by changing all instances of:

[dad!c] to [persistent.dad]
[mom!c] to [persistent.mom]

within the \game\scripts .rpy files.
if that's the issue, I suspect the players encountering it have 0.6, and not the last patch, 06b... in which I am fairly sure we fixed that..jury is still out on the Kyra Asani kerfuffle.
we'll probably get around to that one with the next update...
 

Daquarius

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this choices are pretty much as you said but the reason we get the redhair slave is because the trader at the decayed base where the old mentor is at sells her to us. so we essentially got two ways of getting the redhair slave.

so yeah you dont have to side with the decayed to get the redhair girl as there are more then one ways to get her.
Yeah, I'm just saying that we should only get Fairy IF we side with the decayed for the sake of of ingame choices. If you let them kill the elf, you just lose content, you gain nothing. You're a just a retard siding with the decayed. We should get something making unpopular choices, like siding with the bad guys. Killing the nubian woman should get you a treasure in her home, you gain nothing killing her until now.

I'm saying that the game, in the current version, only rewards who make the good guy choices. I played the game multiples times and there is just two options, being good and getting additional content, or being bad and losing content.
 

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Yeah, I'm just saying that we should only get Fairy IF we side with the decayed for the sake of of ingame choices. If you let them kill the elf, you just lose content, you gain nothing. You're a just a retard siding with the decayed. We should get something making unpopular choices, like siding with the bad guys. Killing the nubian woman should get you a treasure in her home, you gain nothing killing her until now.

I'm saying that the game, in the current version, only rewards who make the good guy choices. I played the game multiples times and there is just two options, being good and getting additional content, or being bad and losing content.
to be fair you can bang(rape) a girl in her sleep. not really a good guy choice there. also forcing the girl to give you a BJ in the opening scene isnt a good guy choice. letting her live yeah sure. i guess it also depends what you consider good.

from a different perspective maybe MC is the asshole for killing the decayed and stealing their meal.:unsure:
 

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to be fair you can bang(rape) a girl in her sleep. not really a good guy choice there. also forcing the girl to give you a BJ in the opening scene isnt a good guy choice. letting her live yeah sure. i guess it also depends what you consider good.

from a different perspective maybe MC is the asshole for killing the decayed and stealing their meal.:unsure:
The opening scene is pure genius, you can do whatever you want and choices have consequences. That's one of the reasons I spent a few minutes thinking what to do with the elf. I really thought to what is personally important to me, first was saving the life of an innocent, second fullfiling my duty with the queen, and third, don't pissing off a community of ugly people. That's why, at my first playthrough, I choose to kill the decayed. The problem is, you are rewarded for the first two options, and choosing the bad guys don't give you anything different, worse than that, you just lose the bunker scene.

I like the options of rejecting people's offers, but it turns out that the only true options are to accept the offer and get rewards, or reject the offer and get nothing. What I was expecting is something like that 1- do good (gains rewards) 2- do evil (gains different rewards), 3- do nothing (gains nothing). The point is that most of the evil actions are the same as doing nothing (example: siding with the decayed instead of the elf, killing the black girl, killing the asian girl, letting the decayed eat the asian girl leader)
 

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The opening scene is pure genius, you can do whatever you want and choices have consequences. That's one of the reasons I spent a few minutes thinking what to do with the elf. I really thought to what is personally important to me, first was saving the life of an innocent, second fullfiling my duty with the queen, and third, don't pissing off a community of ugly people. That's why, at my first playthrough, I choose to kill the decayed. The problem is, you are rewarded for the first two options, and choosing the bad guys don't give you anything different, worse than that, you just lose the bunker scene.

I like the options of rejecting people's offers, but it turns out that the only true options are to accept the offer and get rewards, or reject the offer and get nothing. What I was expecting is something like that 1- do good (gains rewards) 2- do evil (gains different rewards), 3- do nothing (gains nothing). The point is that most of the evil actions are the same as doing nothing (example: siding with the decayed instead of the elf, killing the black girl, killing the asian girl, letting the decayed eat the asian girl leader)
i could be wrong but doesnt letting the elf die get you the scene with the redhead?

also maybe the reward to some of those scenes like killing the black girl is in fact the act of killing her itself. instead of letting her live and maybe get a reward (which if a hot girls is involved chances are she'll be the reward.) instead your choosing immediate satisfaction over long term sexy times. again to my earlier point not all the sex is "nice" so although some options dont give you an alternate sex scene that your looking for. you do get a different reward. again its a matter of perspective,

dont get me wrong i understand what your saying. but dont expect alot of sexy time if you kill all the girls. also in terms of materialistic rewards. if you kill the black girl not sure how or why you'd go to her house to loot her if you dont know where its at or have a reason to go there.

killing the asians then im not sure how youd get the new truck. it might've xplained it already but since i never let them die i didnt see the alternate path of how he got the truck if he did.
 

Kellermann

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i could be wrong but doesnt letting the elf die get you the scene with the redhead?

also maybe the reward to some of those scenes like killing the black girl is in fact the act of killing her itself. instead of letting her live and maybe get a reward (which if a hot girls is involved chances are she'll be the reward.) instead your choosing immediate satisfaction over long term sexy times. again to my earlier point not all the sex is "nice" so although some options dont give you an alternate sex scene that your looking for. you do get a different reward. again its a matter of perspective,

dont get me wrong i understand what your saying. but dont expect alot of sexy time if you kill all the girls. also in terms of materialistic rewards. if you kill the black girl not sure how or why you'd go to her house to loot her if you dont know where its at or have a reason to go there.

killing the asians then im not sure how youd get the new truck. it might've xplained it already but since i never let them die i didnt see the alternate path of how he got the truck if he did.
Yes, it seems like you are going to get a lot less content if you don't save the women in this game. And not just lewd content but other important content as well (new truck, source of intel at the shack, Elf storyline, etc.). I always save the women because I have a one track mind, but it seems a poor choice not to save them even if you aren't a sex-crazed maniac like my MC. I do wonder, will the devs eventually insert a negative result for saving a woman at some point? Just to mix things up.
 

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Yes, it seems like you are going to get a lot less content if you don't save the women in this game. And not just lewd content but other important content as well (new truck, source of intel at the shack, Elf storyline, etc.). I always save the women because I have a one track mind, but it seems a poor choice not to save them even if you aren't a sex-crazed maniac like my MC. I do wonder, will the devs eventually insert a negative result for saving a woman at some point? Just to mix things up.
if there is a negative, so far it'd be with the decayed. i took a few meals from them already so who knows.

theres also the possibilty we can "SAVE" another girl from her husband/lover whatever and he might come back to get us.

that reminds me of the slave owner who was beating his slave. i mean that technically counts as a consequence right? we save slave and he tries to kill us. just cause i wanna kill him doesnt meant i saved her without some sort of negative response. its just in that case i turned the negative to a positive by saying. "eh i dont see how i lose here":cool:
 

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if there is a negative, so far it'd be with the decayed. i took a few meals from them already so who knows.

theres also the possibilty we can "SAVE" another girl from her husband/lover whatever and he might come back to get us.

that reminds me of the slave owner who was beating his slave. i mean that technically counts as a consequence right? we save slave and he tries to kill us. just cause i wanna kill him doesnt meant i saved her without some sort of negative response. its just in that case i turned the negative to a positive by saying. "eh i dont see how i lose here":cool:
I believe I cut that chump's leg off. But again, I was thinking with muh dick. I fell into my old pattern: "If I help her, she'll bang me in the next episode." I suppose there are some minor negatives, but overall nothing too bad yet. I was thinking, what if we save a woman who isn't automatically hypnotised by the power of MC's magic penis. Maybe you save a girl who initially acts like she is with you, but then later tries to kill you, or steal your ride...or fire bomb your estate. :oops: I might actually consider killing her instead of capturing her if she double-crossed me like that. Oh, who am I kidding? I'm going to enslave her no matter what. :devilish:

Just to clarify, I am fine with the current state of the women being attracted to MC and don't want to see that radically changed. I quite like it. It's just that I had the thought occur to me that I was being lured in to a false sense of security. A Desert Stalker must never become complacent.
 

Daquarius

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i could be wrong but doesnt letting the elf die get you the scene with the redhead?

also maybe the reward to some of those scenes like killing the black girl is in fact the act of killing her itself. instead of letting her live and maybe get a reward (which if a hot girls is involved chances are she'll be the reward.) instead your choosing immediate satisfaction over long term sexy times. again to my earlier point not all the sex is "nice" so although some options dont give you an alternate sex scene that your looking for. you do get a different reward. again its a matter of perspective,

dont get me wrong i understand what your saying. but dont expect alot of sexy time if you kill all the girls. also in terms of materialistic rewards. if you kill the black girl not sure how or why you'd go to her house to loot her if you dont know where its at or have a reason to go there.

killing the asians then im not sure how youd get the new truck. it might've xplained it already but since i never let them die i didnt see the alternate path of how he got the truck if he did.
Yes, you get a scene in the bathroom where the redhair girl is introduced. If you don't side with the decayed, you meet the redhair girl anyway, since she's sold to you. The plot works better with this little introduction, but the price is to kill the elf/give up the relic for this event to trigger. That's why a suggested to make the redhair girl a decayed only choice, since she's already better introduced in this path, and it will give a reason to side with the decayed.
 

Cynicaladm

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Consider the early stage the game is at.
Most of the game, so far, has been about setting up content, factions, locations to explore and such. it stands to reason that if you kill the girl that is meant to introduce you to a faction, you will not get that introduction. The reward of good-ish behaviour in this context is what puts you in a place to, in the future, make choices that will lead to developments that might be mutually exclusive.
We do have a necessity to force through certain plot elements to simplify the work on the render side of things... for instance, you will always find your way to the new car, whether you kill Asani and/or Kyra or not.. (if you kill both, someone else will give you a clue to where to find it). This is because it would make no sense to have to double the workload on any panel that includes the car... because you'd have to make a render for the old car and one for the new car in every future scene, which is just a waste of time, from a production pov.
As it is, you can make choices that already come with a degree of variation. For instance, if you leave the decayed alive, they later reward you with an extra scene with Fairy...whether you allow Ivy to die or whether you buy her from them using the statuette. We have made it so that even if you choose to buy her from them, you still get Emilia, albeit at a later stage.. so by siding with the uggos and doing the morally questionable thing of stiffing the queen and buying yourself a slave, you don't loose anything but gain a scene with Fairy and get Emilia later in the game.
In the future, there might be situations where indeed choosing a faction makes it so that other factions either close their doors to you or reduce your influence on them considerably.. but that is very much something that we must still define and might also not happen quite in the terms I just used.
I am aware that there are players that want "everything in one go" and want all of the girls at the same time. I assume someone will make a mod to make that possible... but we aim to tell a story where events that happen carry consequences in the long run, and, ultimately, not all girls will be happy with all of the choices you will make.
Yes, this is a harem game; no, it does not mean that any and all of the girls you see on screen will be yours foreverandever all at the same time.. if that's your aim, I suggest you play harem hotel or corruption.
In fact... Saving all of the girls might very well bring some serious consequences later in the game.. not all of them are your mindless slaves.
It is not yet defined, but there's a good chance that to see every sexy content of the game, by the time it is finished, you will have to do at least 1 or 2 playthroughs after the first one... or at least occasionally scumsave and scroll back.
I realise that some of the players will be annoyed by this... I guess we will do our best to make the replay value worth it, and the story different enough to make the replay a different experience. I say it again, we're trying to write a compelling and coherent story and have it be open enough to give the player agency... it's a difficult balance to achieve and we are fully aware that we won't be able to make everybody happy.
For the players who are playing the game purely for the sex scenes, I am sure there will be a good samaritan out there that unlocks the gallery for them whether they play the game or not.
Let's face it, we all know how this forum works... a bunch of you will probably come to this thread in the future, to ask for a full save, so they have the gallery unlocked already and don't have to scroll through the game, no matter how little grind there is in it... you will understand me if I say that we don't make the game with those "players" in mind.
 
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