Create and Fuck your AI Slut -70% OFF
x

starkj

Active Member
May 17, 2022
728
1,041
267
OK this is going to be long.
I've played two games here with a Middle Eastern theme: this game and Life in the Middle East.
Honestly none of them are even close to the reality but I think that's the point. These are fantasy games, especially DS. If you were to make an authentic ME game, MC and her LIs would've been lashed or worse, stoned for adultery. I don't play this game because the location is where I live.
But if you're interested in making your game feel more authentic then you have to make the game a sausage fest. Put all the women in the harem, trying to outdo eachother to get the attention of their man and to become the lady of the house.
Up until 100 years ago in Iran, that was the most prestigious achievement a woman could have.
And then you have all the men, socialising together, smoking opium, drinking coffee/tea and playing backgammon and kissing their man's (could be a lord/sheikh) ass.
All the marriages would've been prearranged and anything sexual outside marriage would've been severely punished.
As for conflicts, most of the middle east is consisted of different tribes and races who live together but can't stand eachother. If you're looking for a historical soldier who rose to the top I recommend reading about Nadir Shah. If you want a mythical hero (Iran's hercules), read about Rostam Dastan. These might give you an idea as to what a middle eastern story should look like.
All and all as a middle eastern myself I enjoy this game the way it is. You've done a great job with creating that eastern feel.
Tbh when i look at Egypt in this game, i think of it more of the Egypt from back the Roman Empire times with the likes of Cleopatra rather than the Egypt from the rise of Islam and i think that's what the dev went for.
 

26thOfJuly

Member
Jul 26, 2023
110
322
196
Tbh when i look at Egypt in this game, i think of it more of the Egypt from back the Roman Empire times with the likes of Cleopatra rather than the Egypt from the rise of Islam and i think that's what the dev went for.
True, but the discussion was about Middle East. In that era there was no "Middle East". The Middle East refers to the region where Islam rose and created a certain similar look to the entire region. Back in the ancient times these were very different sub-regions. Egypt, Mesopotamia (current Iraq), Asia minor (current Turkey) and Persia (current Iran) had almost no unifying factor between them, whilst today they're all bundled as the Middle East (Land of terrorists :LOL:)
 
  • Haha
Reactions: wiseold6996

Ummmh

Member
Apr 27, 2018
294
260
163
Tbh when i look at Egypt in this game, i think of it more of the Egypt from back the Roman Empire times with the likes of Cleopatra rather than the Egypt from the rise of Islam and i think that's what the dev went for.
It's pop-culture ancient Egypt. No real resemblance outside of superficial visual and name elements to the original.

It is worth noting that if you're looking at Egypt in Cleopatra's/Ptolemaic Dynasty times, you're actually looking at very northern Greeks, because her entire lineage was Macedonian (tho there's apparently some argument on the Greek side as to whether or not Macedonians should be considered Greeks, despite the Greeks I knew reflexively claiming Alexander as their own: this was a major point of contention for some Greek friends of mine, in the past).

For a certainty, unless you want to see everyone, men and women both, shaved of head and wearing wigs, you definitely don't want to go authentic ancient Egyptian. :rolleyes:
 

Rehwyn

Engaged Member
Apr 10, 2024
2,326
4,212
349
It's pop-culture ancient Egypt. No real resemblance outside of superficial visual and name elements to the original.

It is worth noting that if you're looking at Egypt in Cleopatra's/Ptolemaic Dynasty times, you're actually looking at very northern Greeks, because her entire lineage was Macedonian (tho there's apparently some argument on the Greek side as to whether or not Macedonians should be considered Greeks, despite the Greeks I knew reflexively claiming Alexander as their own: this was a major point of contention for some Greek friends of mine, in the past).

For a certainty, unless you want to see everyone, men and women both, shaved of head and wearing wigs, you definitely don't want to go authentic ancient Egyptian. :rolleyes:
It's actually kind of fitting that a post-apocalyptic society might base their society on a Pop Culture version of something without knowing any better. :LOL:
 

dolfe67

Forum Fanatic
Apr 25, 2020
5,983
17,055
853
It is worth noting that if you're looking at Egypt in Cleopatra's/Ptolemaic Dynasty times, you're actually looking at very northern Greeks, because her entire lineage was Macedonian (tho there's apparently some argument on the Greek side as to whether or not Macedonians should be considered Greeks, despite the Greeks I knew reflexively claiming Alexander as their own: this was a major point of contention for some Greek friends of mine, in the past).
I don't care what we learn in school, Cleopatra was black :Kappa:
 

Ummmh

Member
Apr 27, 2018
294
260
163
I wonder what line he will choose next with Lyra?
At this point, it's her choice, either way, though a lot more so with the scavenger route than the guard route

Scav Lirah has a lot of (MOSTLY REALLY BAD) choices still ahead of her, any number of which could end up with her gone from the game, brutalized into mind-break, or deciding that she wants to take the MC up on his offer to live with him.

Guard Lirah is basically reduced to just an embarrassed, but fully willing sex toy, now, with no real choices unless she makes some sort of move to break out of that tailspin: the Queen's not going to give her too many options in THAT regard.
 

Ummmh

Member
Apr 27, 2018
294
260
163
I don't care what we learn in school, Cleopatra was black :Kappa:
The really sad thing is that Jada Pinkett Smith special actually dragged a friend of mine who's an egyptologist in there, but I don't think she realized what the overall special was about or she probably would have kept the hell away from it. She rabidly hates disinformation and would have avoided it like the plague had she known it was afrocentrist.

A number of times I've heard her say (in fact, insist) on pointing out that the Egyptian language seems more SEMITIC than anything else. It's quite notable.

BTW, tho not infallible, egyptologists are severely well-educated in their profession and around it. Egyptology's a profession that doesn't fuck around: there are no bachelor's degrees in Egyptology, no Masters degrees in Egyptology; you go hard or you just go home; PhD all the way or nothing. Until you've busted your ass and solidly learned what there is to be learned in your subfield and got your doctorate, you ain't nothing but a scrub.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: afterlights

Maviarab

Doing Mafia Helmet Things....
Donor
Jul 12, 2020
14,401
35,594
997
BTW, tho not infallible, egyptologists are severely well-educated in their profession and around it. Egyptology's a profession that doesn't fuck around: there are no bachelor's degrees in Egyptology, no Masters degrees in Egyptology; you go hard or you just go home; PhD all the way or nothing. Until you've busted your ass and solidly learned what there is to be learned in your subfield and got your doctorate, you ain't nothing but a scrub.
Yet many of them are happy to push a narrative they know to be untrue because it would severley discredit the region and everything they want you to believe.

Zahi Hawess anyone?
 
  • Like
Reactions: MrD812 and xapican

starkj

Active Member
May 17, 2022
728
1,041
267
It's pop-culture ancient Egypt. No real resemblance outside of superficial visual and name elements to the original.

It is worth noting that if you're looking at Egypt in Cleopatra's/Ptolemaic Dynasty times, you're actually looking at very northern Greeks, because her entire lineage was Macedonian (tho there's apparently some argument on the Greek side as to whether or not Macedonians should be considered Greeks, despite the Greeks I knew reflexively claiming Alexander as their own: this was a major point of contention for some Greek friends of mine, in the past).

For a certainty, unless you want to see everyone, men and women both, shaved of head and wearing wigs, you definitely don't want to go authentic ancient Egyptian. :rolleyes:
Yeah i know, i love history and watch a lot of videos on youtube from like Kings and Generals, History Marche etc.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ummmh

Ummmh

Member
Apr 27, 2018
294
260
163
Yet many of them are happy to push a narrative they know to be untrue because it would severley discredit the region and everything they want you to believe.

Zahi Hawess anyone?
That guy just can't keep his hands out of the pie, from what I've heard. He also seems to like blocking potentially useful research projects that are not particularly invasive and could forward really cool ideas.

Mind you, I've never been told anything directly, and I hadn't actually asked: I didn't want my friend to potentially get herself in trouble for ticking off the guy with all the leverage.

There's already enough flack, from what I understand, for her being female in a male-heavy field. Last I heard she already retired.
 

RX-9/C

Active Member
Jun 22, 2017
629
1,129
346
Tbh i don't think any kinks would be off the table at this point, the dev already make Zaton pretty much accepted anything that throw at him from s&m, sharing or feet worship,...
 
  • Like
Reactions: AlienEDM

AlienEDM

Well-Known Member
Oct 2, 2018
1,434
2,964
461
Tbh i don't think any kinks would be off the table at this point, the dev already make Zaton pretty much accepted anything that throw at him from s&m, sharing or feet worship,...
Yeah, I agree! But, just remember that some of these kinks things you are pointing about Zaton are optional, and he only accept it if you choose to do so.

And talking about kink stuffs, lets say I am curious to known why Zeta city has no "whorehouse" or "brothels"? I mean, it is too much obvious that in a pos-apocaliptic world, people will do everything to survive(including the women). So, where are the prostitutes? There is a women(Rue) in the Raider camp that are whoring herself, but I doubt she is the only one in Zeta. So, I ask where is located the famous "Red Light District" in Desert Stalker?

I don't known if ZetanDS is planning to add this kind of stuffs in his game, but, I think he should considerate about it. I mean, he could give a path in the game where Zaton would run a brothel or something like that, just like he runs the Raider camp as boss. And, as the boss, Zaton could make missions in order help his girls and in order to recruit more girls for his brothel property.
 
Last edited:

MrBenny

Engaged Member
Jul 20, 2021
2,376
5,767
646
Hmm...Will this recent release change from beta, to complete for this update? As I noticed this went from beta to alpha, then back to beta again. Just wondering, as I would like to replay from the start...just to remember the past content I've forgotten.

Regards.
 
4.80 star(s) 759 Votes