xapican

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Probably Duty/apologizes/stays/humiliation. It starts w/Lirah pushed up against a pillar, but eventually ends up on a bed, after Merneith changes her mind.

They may have added animations and a few more expressions to what had been a fairly static (tho still great) ending.
as stated in the update report posted by SP the animations will be part of 16c which is almost ready iirc.
The naming dolfe67 is random, people started talking about "good" and "bad" paths and I kept the premise so everyone can understand, it is all subject to your own kinks and point of view.
the submissive path with the queen is kinky as hell and I liked it a lot, since I'm a bit of romantic soul, the path were she submits willing I like more.
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I agree with you, it would make sense for her to be executed. But I'm speaking from the perspective of a spectator or a player. Her guilt is clear, but her motive is not such thawhoever is playing feels she is the enemy. She was selfish in her goal to get close to the queen at any cost, but still loyal to her ( I think so). So if Merneith suggests Zaton to execute Sharifa, it will be emotional for some players.
Hey I'M playing and I definitely feel that b**** is the enemy!

:mad:

In addition, she consistently makes it very clear that SHE considers the MC the enemy, which means she might have a mind to do something similar to HIM.

Since we see that she very intentionally got a man brutally murdered to get him out of the way, I definitely think she would be viewed by most who are aware of the situation as a major problem, and one who made the queen look VERY bad by inducing the queen to kill an actually-loyal man.

Any guard in Merneith's service, charged with defending the queen's life, would 100℅ immediately be falcon-focused on this to see what the Queen's response would be to an ambitious and dishonest guard getting a truly loyal and honest guard gutted. Merneith has proven, from her past actions, that she is WELL aware of the optics on cases, and especially would be on one where her entire retinue has a front row seat and personal stake in the matter.

She may let her get off lightly because she's a woman and she might decide she has too much personal involvement, but I don't think that would necessarily go over well, in terms of discipline and morale, so I think she would be gunning to kill her.

There IS (IMO) theoretically another option.. She might decide to reduce her to one of her slaves, but one who every guard gets to use, at will. THAT might go over well enough, and be understood to be a different punishment because she was a woman.

EDIT: having her be a public use slave for the guards actually might go over VERY well, in that it would be appropriate, considering one of the things that she got the prior guard killed for was supposed use of one of the Queen's slaves.
EDIT2daEDIT: and actually since sharifa is probably a serious hardass to the remaining guards they might not like her anyway, so seeing her brought low and turned into their cumdump might actually be EXTREMELY popular. The more I think about this idea the more it seems likely to be the best one, although whether or not it actually is the one they go with it's another matter. Fan theories are just fan theories unless they hit the mark.
 
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xapican

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Let Lirah stay as a guard is a bad path?
No, that naming came from someone who, wasn't so keen with the domination, it is more violent and contains humilation towards Lirah, from the queen and MC (if you opt for it) although it is very kinky and well done.
How I said already, I liked the path were she submits willigly to MC but both paths are sexy, just a question of personal tast IMO
 

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Dev 14.07.2024

Hope you're all doin well! I have started to work on 0.17, and 0.16c is mostly prepared which includes the Zahra scene animation and one animation for Lirah's bad path (the one on the bed), as well as some dialogue stuff.

This preview is yet another one from the bunker, but we will dive into something fresh next week. The next part for the mutants will be similar to the settlement raid of the raiders, yet hopefully greater in scale and creativity. (Also don't get confused by the images, you don't need Mantis in your base for this one of course.)
hahahaha he will redo the old scenes well well
 

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Hey I'M playing and I definitely feel that b**** is the enemy!

:mad:

In addition, she consistently makes it very clear that SHE considers the MC the enemy, which means she might have a mind to do something similar to HIM.

Since we see that she very intentionally got a man brutally murdered to get him out of the way, I definitely think she would be viewed by most who are aware of the situation as a major problem, and one who made the queen look VERY bad by inducing the queen to kill an actually-loyal man.

Any guard in Merneith's service, charged with defending the queen's life, would 100℅ immediately be falcon-focused on this to see what the Queen's response would be to an ambitious and dishonest guard getting a truly loyal and honest guard gutted. Merneith has proven, from her past actions, that she is WELL aware of the optics on cases, and especially would be on one where her entire retinue has a front row seat and personal stake in the matter.

She may let her get off lightly because she's a woman and she might decide she has too much personal involvement, but I don't think that would necessarily go over well, in terms of discipline and morale, so I think she would be gunning to kill her.

There IS (IMO) theoretically another option.. She might decide to reduce her to one of her slaves, but one who every guard gets to use, at will. THAT might go over well enough, and be understood to be a different punishment because she was a woman.

EDIT: having her be a public use slave for the guards actually might go over VERY well, in that it would be appropriate, considering one of the things that she got the prior guard killed for was supposed use of one of the Queen's slaves.
EDIT2daEDIT: and actually since sharifa is probably a serious hardass to the remaining guards they might not like her anyway, so seeing her brought low and turned into their cumdump might actually be EXTREMELY popular. The more I think about this idea the more it seems likely to be the best one, although whether or not it actually is the one they go with it's another matter. Fan theories are just fan theories unless they hit the mark.
honestly I'd rather have her executed than a sex scene of rape. I hope there's some choice. Either you know, it would be cool if she can choose her own path: have sex with MC and get a light execution, decapitation. Or not have sex and get quartered.
 

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Another fantastic update, animations are probably the best on this site, maybe ever.
Even the story is heading in an interesting direction, can't wait to see the teased
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as stated in the update report posted by SP the animations will be part of 16c which is almost ready iirc.
The naming dolfe67 is random, people started talking about "good" and "bad" paths and I kept the premise so everyone can understand, it is all subject to your own kinks and point of view.
the submissive path with the queen is kinky as hell and I liked it a lot, since I'm a bit of romantic soul, the path were she submits willing I like more.
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That she likely ends up pregnant by the very man she purports to hate, is what seals the deal and sells the story, imo, tho all the details of that choice's outcomes are pretty well handled.
 

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honestly I'd rather have her executed than a sex scene of rape. I hope there's some choice. Either you know, it would be cool if she can choose her own path: have sex with MC and get a light execution, decapitation. Or not have sex and get quartered.
Theoretically, it could be both:

"My loyal guards! Hearken! This woman, who used foul falsehoods to murder her superior and rise to be in charge over you, let the truth of her low acts bring her to a low place! Her soul weighs far more than a feather, so let her be brought down and devoured by the Beast! Take her as your communal property, and use her constantly until she breathes no more than the man she had murdered!"

. . .

I suspect the devs would NOT go there, but it does strike me as something Merneith might do, given she can be borderline psychopathic when she wants to be.

Honestly though, her general pattern seems to be stab people to death, and maybe use the dragon on them.

. . .

I don't see Merneith having the MC fuck Sharith. While Mer seemingly now wants to watch the MC rape other women as a means of vicariously seeing herself fucked by him, she had him take Lirah SPECIFICALLY because the girl was OBSESSIVELY berating him, while Sharifa, tho not liking him, isn't focused on acting against the MC. I think Merneith would thus focus the punishment elsewhere, where it could be of more political leverage in protecting her optics in the matter, since she herself killed that guard with her own hands, tho impelled by Sharifa's lies.

She clearly DOES want MC's ADVICE on Sharifa, however... Just not until she's thought abt it, first.
 
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That she likely ends up pregnant by the very man she purports to hate, is what seals the deal and sells the story, imo, tho all the details of that choice's outcomes are pretty well handled.
"Likely" is a bit of a stretch since odds of pregnancy after sex in a single day is only about 1-8% depending on stage of the woman's cycle and other factors. Still, it's AVN logic instead of real world, so actual probabilities don't really matter. :LOL:
 

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"Likely" is a bit of a stretch since odds of pregnancy after sex in a single day is only about 1-8% depending on stage of the woman's cycle and other factors. Still, it's AVN logic instead of real world, so actual probabilities don't really matter. :LOL:
1-8 percent? I swear if you don't want kids the probability goes up to 90 percent. You'll make your girl pregnant by cuddling for too long.
 

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"Likely" is a bit of a stretch since odds of pregnancy after sex in a single day is only about 1-8% depending on stage of the woman's cycle and other factors. Still, it's AVN logic instead of real world, so actual probabilities don't really matter. :LOL:
I had wondered about that myself because Merneith seemed EXTREMELY certain, in the original dialogue in 16 beta.

I had originally wondered if it was due to ovulatory cycle synchronization of women living together for extended durations in the palace, but it turns out sychronization is a completely discredited theory: sometimes there are just natural extended overlaps due to slightly different cycle durations.

A FAR more likely possibility, in fact VERY probable and ridiculously obvious when you think about it, is TALIA WOULD ALMOST CERTAINLY KNOW LIRAH'S EXACT CYCLE, as she works closely with her, every single day. This would give the queen, via simply asking Talia, a near certainty of what the not-safe days were.

Ofc there's still a limited chance of conception even on a not safe day, but the odds are WAY higher: up to 41% if intercourse occurs the day before ovulation. And, for all we know, the queen might have given Lirah some fertility drug to increase those odds: it IS like the 25th or 26th century, after all, and the queen does have access to some ancient tech. More, it's entirely possible that fertility drugs might have been one of the few things allowed to seep through from the past (to the priesthood at very least) in order to help keep the population going up.
 
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Ummmh ; or she just asks MC to fuck her a few times in a row during a few days 1year .... :devilish:
Edit: there how Reh said after I posted.....
It varies from <1% when not ovulating to about 8% when ovulating for unprotected sex on a single day. About 30% get pregnant within 1 month of frequent (nearly daily) unprotected sex, about 60% after 3 months, about 80% after 6 months, and about 90% after 1 year.
 
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1-8 percent? I swear if you don't want kids the probability goes up to 90 percent. You'll make your girl pregnant by cuddling for too long.
I had wondered about that myself because Merneith seemed EXTREMELY certain, in the original dialogue in 16 beta.

I had originally wondered if it was due to ovulatory cycle synchronization of women living together for extended durations in the palace, but it turns out sychronization is a completely discredited theory: sometimes there are just natural extended overlaps due to slightly different cycle durations.

A FAR more likely possibility, in fact VERY probable and ridiculously obvious when you think about it, is TALIA WOULD ALMOST CERTAINLY KNOW LIRAH'S EXACT CYCLE, as she works closely with her, every singe day. This would give the queen, via simply asking Talia, a near certainty of what the not-safe days were.
Haha, yeah. I was curious, so looked it up a while ago. It varies from <1% when not ovulating to about 8% when ovulating for unprotected sex on a single day. About 30% get pregnant within 1 month of frequent (nearly daily) unprotected sex, about 60% after 3 months, about 80% after 6 months, and about 90% after 1 year.

Obviously it's done for narrative and coding purposes, but it's always made me chuckle that unprotected creampie = guaranteed pregnant in AVNs. :p
 

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Haha, yeah. I was curious, so looked it up a while ago. It varies from <1% when not ovulating to about 8% when ovulating for unprotected sex on a single day. About 30% get pregnant within 1 month of frequent (nearly daily) unprotected sex, about 60% after 3 months, about 80% after 6 months, and about 90% after 1 year.

Obviously it's done for narrative and coding purposes, but it's always made me chuckle that unprotected creampie = guaranteed pregnant in AVNs. :p
Hmm.

Was fishing around sites and they usually do say that yes it's % by the month, but apparently if you hit on the specific day before ovulation your percentages skyrocket.

Sperm health and count are also factors, and we can assume MC has healthy sperm in addition to his very consistently pumping out liters of it.

EDIT: and Lirah is also quite young and therefore quite fertile: the overall percentages may be skewed by older age brackets.
 
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Hmm.

Was fishing around sites and they usually do say that yes it's % by the month, but apparently if you hit on the specific day before ovulation your percentages skyrocket.

Sperm health and count are also factors, and we can assume MC has healthy sperm in addition to his very consistently pumping out liters of it.

EDIT: and Lirah is also quite young and therefore quite fertile: the overall percentages may be skewed by older age brackets.
Honestly, finding odds for specific days is quite hard. I've seen everything from 8% to 25% in the peak window of a few days before ovulation. I suppose most couples trying to get pregnant aren't having sex one day per month. :ROFLMAO:

In either case, seems the "blind" odds if you don't know the cycle is 5% or less.
 
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