Ren'Py Desert Stalker [v0.17.1.2 2024-12-30] [Zetan]

[whichone]

What's interesting with the Egypt motifs in this games is under the Ptolemaic Dynasty, there was a lot of incest that was sanctioned, Cleopatra being married to her brother for example.

Back when they thought that keeping their bloodline "pure", not having it diluted by another bloodline, was the right way to go.
Slightly ironic, that it's one of the most damaging things, from an evolutionary perspective.

 

[Lorenz1]

Back when they thought that keeping their bloodline "pure", not having it diluted by another bloodline

And again, it was never about the "bloodline". It is about the right to rule in a monarchy. There are about four reasons for it, and neither is "ah our blood must stay pure ahhh".

 

[Gato21]

Ehm, nah, it is a very specific kind of incest for legitimisation purposes, mother of the pharao must be a sister of a previous one (since who the hell knows who is a father of the child, but who is a mother is always clear - it serves as a proof of a bloodline). Brothers married sisters for the legitimacy, but there was no vertical incest to speak of.

True, but it one of the few cultures, other than Zoroastrian Iran, that had such practices among the rulers. I am not suggesting it was common practice among the populace, merely pointing out the thematic connection.

 

[Lorenz1]

You do see the problem, there?

Sure, wasn't clear enough. It is not about "bloodline" as in "mix as little with outsiders as possible" like some sects right now, it is a proof of belongness to the line of rulers. For example, mother of the pharaoe could have been a step-sister of his father, but for as long as she was included in the family in an obvious and clear way, it was accepted.

Basically, it is a test of "fatherhood" older that civilisation - you can't prove who the father is, but you can prove who is the mother, and she needs to be a part of the ruling family. Which, according to the multiple scientists, basically means that egyptian pharaoes were transferring the throne via female line all along, and there was very little of actual incest happening. It was more of a ceremonial marriage with pharao accepting his sisters children as his.

Greek pharaos, who on paper were inbred to the point of becoming unfertile mutants, showed very little signs of actual inbreeding. Cleopatra came out of that line, that on paper looks like a circle.

 

[Kellermann]

The weirdest part of the story is how MC is grooming his youngest into being "pretty and available", and her mother and sister see nothing weird or wrong about it and even joke about it. That's really gives a feeling of a dystopian future of changed morals.

BTW, does wife really accepts it? She isn't jealous for changing her for a younger model, or anything like that?

Weird to us in modern day maybe, but it all seems quite plausible in a dystopian reverted Egypt. And isn't one of the reasons we play these games (other than t&a ) to escape from modern reality for a while? Reality kind of sucks right now. It sounds like you have been making in game choices to steer Ain in the direction of "pretty and available." You certainly have the opportunity to do that, but like many things in this game, you are not required to do that. I even believe there is a variable that sets Ain more on the path of being the head of some other household one day (like Zahra). I of course say fuck that. I'm making all possible choices to keep her at home in my happy harem. Same with Shani. Those two characters are just too amazing to lose.

Back to the original point though, the game gives you a lot of choice and free will. I don't recall any forced diddling in game. You can raise a family of hardworking, independent ladies if you prefer. That would of course be stupid in an AVN like this imo, but you can do it. And Zahra is confident in her role and isn't worried about being traded in for a newer model. She is an alpha all the way.

 

[Gato21]

Guys, you're getting a little pedantic here. I was just trying make a comment on whichone's "Absolutely. Abnormal for us, but perfectly normal for them, contextually" statement by bring attention to the normalization of incest within the Ptolemaic ruling class and the game's overall Egyptian theme.

 

[whichone]

Back to the original point though, the game gives you a lot of choice and free will.

I think that freedom of choice is part of what makes the game absorbing, the fact that you play as you choose, rather than on rails.
Certainly makes me feel more invested.

She is an alpha all the way.

 

[Lorenz1]

BTW, do you have to bone you oldest daughter, or is it evadable?

 

[Gato21]

BTW, do you have to bone you oldest daughter, or is it evadable?

It's avoidable.

 

[Cynicaladm]

BTW, does wife really accepts it? She isn't jealous for changing her for a younger model, or anything like that?

She's fully on board. Ain's punishment made her horny as well.

It's avoidable.

but a damn shame, if you ask me.. one of Z's best scenes, in my opinion.

The thing with the Pharaos is definitely on my mind... in fact, let me add a bit of text I shared in the discord, replying to a question about sources/inspiration...

I myself tend to think more of cultural/historical references... such as marriage between siblings and first degree relatives being common practice in the pharaoh's dynasty (reason why they were riddled with diseases and defects), incestuous practices in the bible, cultural mores where it is, or was until recently, common practice for brothers of deceased individuals to marry the widow, and in certain cultures for men to have multiple partners...add to it a share of ancient greek sexual liberty and a dash of spartan/zulu militaristic communal upbringing that transcends familial bonds, and that's kind of where my head is at when I come up with lore bits to support our depraved little kinks and turn it into a somewhat believable social construct. As for the more BDSM side of things, I draw from classical literature such as De Sade, Histoire d'O and other staples of the genre, mixed with a degree of personal experience. but again, that's just my 2cents, can't speak for Z on this one

I should note however that it is a bit of post hoc reasoning on my part, as I came into the game when the foundation was already set by Z, including the interfamilial boning.
The main Dev , Z, always had these elements to the setting in mind.. I just added a bit of pseudo-believable context.

 

[kiigass]

Hi,

ok, dump question incoming (you have been warned):
I admit, I am quite new to this board and the game especially. Nevertheless I love the game and I cannot wait for an update. Did I understand correctly, that 0.09c is the most recent (and quite young) version? Did I understand correctly, that this version has been released in April 22? I know, I am impatient.

Thank you for your work, Zetan!

 

[Fazel]

I need a signature image from this game because I'm pretty sure it's on my "Best of" from this forum...

 

[Gato21]

Hi,

ok, dump question incoming (you have been warned):
I admit, I am quite new to this board and the game especially. Nevertheless I love the game and I cannot wait for an update. Did I understand correctly, that 0.09c is the most recent (and quite young) version? Did I understand correctly, that this version has been released in April 22? I know, I am impatient.

Thank you for your work, Zetan!

That is correct. You may want to hold out until the new update which should be released soon, but that is up to you.

 

[fortuna95]

I need a signature image from this game because I'm pretty sure it's on my "Best of" from this forum...

Haven't you seen this? https://f95zone.to/threads/desert-stalker-v0-09c-public-zetan.68105/post-5923005

 

[BizeBire]

Just finished it. God damn, was this a great experience! I really enjoyed the... "Casualness" of all the sexual encounters. I love how the dev allows options where you can be uptight about it, but at the same time you can have a casual conversation with your daughter while your wife is sucking you off. I was looking for exactly that in games for a LONG time. Big thumbs up!

 

[Fazel]

Haven't you seen this? https://f95zone.to/threads/desert-stalker-v0-09c-public-zetan.68105/post-5923005

I thought such things would be put in the first post so I took for granted there was nothing in the thread.
Thanks!

 

[Aioto]

I thought such things would be put in the first post so I took for granted there was nothing in the thread.
Thanks!

 

[CoomerCarlos35xxxv]

Guys help, After the queen tell me to go to the raider idk what to do next and btw who the hell is fairy and when is she become a prisoner lol

 

[JohnF95zone]

Guys help, After the queen tell me to go to the raider idk what to do next and btw who the hell is fairy and when is she become a prisoner lol

I had forgotten about the Queen Raider quest but perhaps the quest is to be continued?

Fairy is the 'slave' girl that you will get after you visit the 'Decayed'? (not sure if I remembered the correct faction name either ) warehouse/area in Old Cairo perhaps?. You can get her in 2 ways depending on the choice you made earlier at the start of the game, wether you kill Kezo & Kizi? (the Decayed brothers whatever their names are) or not.

Kill Don't Kill
You will meet the brothers and get the bathroom scene with Fairy (unlock scene Gallery).

Don't Kill Kill
You don't meet the brothers, spoiler they are dead but instead you meet masked 'slave trader' girl who sold/gave you Fairy (does not unlock scene Gallery).

Afterwards, Fairy will live in your basement/dungeon where you kept the Elf and Raider girl previously, and you have some scenes with her.

 

[CoomerCarlos35xxxv]

I had forgotten about the Queen Raider quest but perhaps the quest is to be continued?

Fairy is the 'slave' girl that you will get after you visit the 'Decayed'? (not sure if I remembered the correct faction name either ) warehouse/area in Old Cairo perhaps?. You can get her in 2 ways depending on the choice you made earlier at the start of the game, wether you kill Kezo & Kizi? (the Decayed brothers whatever their names are) or not.

Kill
You will meet the brothers and get the bathroom scene with Fairy (unlock scene Gallery).

Don't Kill
You don't meet the brothers, spoiler they are dead but instead you meet masked 'slave trader' girl who sold/gave you Fairy (does not unlock scene Gallery).

Afterwards, Fairy will live in your basement/dungeon where you kept the Elf and Raider girl previously, and you have some scenes with her.

Ah I see, kezo and kizi are the one who took the elf hostage right? I'm pretty sure I choose to kill them but I don't get the bathroom scene with fairy, instead I bought her from the masked slave trader