Wait wait wait. So between Shani, Zaton and you personally, who is sharing whom with whom?
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I believe what Yngling meant is, Shani and her interactions, engagements (or relationships) with other men, NOT SHARING meant Shani is exclusive to Zaton (MC) which means that Shani will not have any relationships with other men except for Zaton.
If Shani is her own individual, she should be allowed or freely to engage with any men as she wants, but super majority do not want that. Although I do not see Shani longing for other men since she is infatuated with Zaton her whole life (that is a different topic and just based on my opinion). What most (if not all) players want is Zaton and Shani just like they were before, but that means Shani (as a character or main character) lost a bit (but a major part) of her individuality.
In short, players are not given the agency to make the choice for Shani either to stay in loving, romantic, sexual relationships with Zaton or pursue others. While most agree with and loving it, some may feel that the agency or choice had been taken away from them, forced into them.
IMHO, it is just not possible to make all possibilites materialized more or less (I am paraphrasing).
I hope I get it right though, it is not easy to understand so many opinions and expressions on so many aspects of this rather complex game, just tackling one aspect is daunting enough to me
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I do. I'm well aware this is a super minority opinion.
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Yeah, same here. I actually had Zaton not pursue Shani (and avoid Ain sexually as much as possible) partly because I'm not particularly into incest but mostly because I just enjoy role-playing loving dads who aren't into boning their children. If I remember right, I actually had to save scum to keep a sex scene with Ain from auto-triggering, but I was able to do it though there's some borderline stuff with her that didn't seem to be completely avoidable. My version of Zaton was one seriously proud papa when she expressed an interest in training recently!
Anyway, I would be completely fine with Shani finding someone to love; if it happens, hopefully it'll be someone dear old dad can respect. To be sure, I'd personally much prefer to see her end up with a fellow badass lady warrior than a harem of decayed gents, but at the end of the day you can't control your kids...or can you?!
I suppose this stance does make my character a real outlier in Zetan society (perhaps not so much in the case of Shani because of the training tradition), but I consider that he already kind of is. Even given the relative freedom stalkers enjoy, surely it's really weird that he's doing things like befriending the decayed, mutants, and raiders. Or opposing brutal treatment of slaves. Or talking a bit too freely -- disrespectfully even -- to the queen.
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Thank you for correcting my wrong choice of words. I have edited the post. Is there any other words or sentences that are not correct based on generalization or other ill-informed facts? It was just easier and quicker to type "no one wants that". I believe I made the point that majority want it like this, some like the opposite, and it was just not possible for the game to handle all situations, and I am also not able to cover all aspects of it, even just one aspect is daunting enough, not using the right words, very generic or sometime theoretical examples to illustrate a point etc.
Anyone is welcomed to express their opinions. You can be vocal about the agency of Shani, there is nothing wrong about it. In the end, it is entirely up to Zetan and the team to develop and produce the game according to their 'vision'. We, the players are encouraged to provide feedbacks with regards to the implementation and execution of it, if it is in line with the 'vision' or not.
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Exactly, that is my opinion. Although I am fine with Shani getting some lesbian action either within the harem or (at the choice of the player) outside of it. Other players may not be ok with that (due to weird Japanese three-letter acronym), but I do think that involving Shani in the action at home is pretty much unavoidable by now.
That is indeed also my struggle, but, as you say, at the moment Shani is infatuated with Zaton, so I guess it's fine...
My other concern though, is about the long term. If Shani inherits Zaton's House (not the building but the family), then she must at some point have children of her own. I suppose Zaton could be the father but I'm not sure how desireable that is. We talked about genetics enough already (and it's a porn game so who cares anyway?) but there is also the point of dynastic alliances among other major Houses.
I have to say I really respect that play style. Good job Sir!
Agreed with this as well. I do see potential for romance between the Queen and Shani, which would solve the dynastic alliance issue I talked about before. But there is the problem with having children.
Does the game lore already say something about how the dynastic inheritance of the Kingdom (Queendom?) is handled? Does the oldest daughter of the Queen automatically inherit?
This is it for me too...I'm all for any and all Shani content, whether that be her own route, spinoff etc., but hope she never loses her devotion to Daddy
What kind of a weirdo are you?
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Wha?? The only thing Queen is getting from my household is put in her place. She can join her kidnapper friend in chains on the street. Shani can take over as regent of Zeta after we overthrow that uppity wench who is currently occupying our throne. Shani will be the start of my new imperial dynasty. Together we can rule the
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why would Shani take away her sister's throne ? there was a line hinting that Meredith could be MC's daughterWha?? The only thing Queen is getting from my household is put in her place. She can join her kidnapper friend in chains on the street. Shani can take over as regent of Zeta after we overthrow that uppity wench who is currently occupying our throne. Shani will be the start of my new imperial dynasty. Together we can rule thegalaxydesert as father and daughter! Then Shani's upcoming daughter/sister can become empress-in-waiting. I am sorry Ain, I have other plans for you.
Queen is way too fuckable to drop her on the streetsWha?? The only thing Queen is getting from my household is put in her place. She can join her kidnapper friend in chains on the street. Shani can take over as regent of Zeta after we overthrow that uppity wench who is currently occupying our throne. Shani will be the start of my new imperial dynasty. Together we can rule thegalaxydesert as father and daughter! Then Shani's upcoming daughter/sister can become empress-in-waiting. I am sorry Ain, I have other plans for you.
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She just needs a heavy hand and some guidance to get rid of that bratty attitude. Then she can become a perfect fuck doll. We already know she's craving some of MC's D.Queen is way too fuckable to drop her on the streets
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I feel like desert stalker irl right about now because i am thirsty for that next update haha
My thoughts exactly. Fang keeps butting in to everything. Even the queen had an option to not kiss the daughter. I get that people might like this kind of scenario with Fang so hopefully dev can just add an option for people who don't like Fang.
ya my guess is mantis i likely more of a side charactor so pronanly didnt want to make multiple variations still hope down the line we get an option to put fang in her place
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goulet1995 AdAstraPerRapina
I think there is a lore/narrative reason why the bunker night scene with Mantis had to involve Fangs, actually it is the other way around Zaton (MC) is encouraged and 'allowed' to join the Fangs and Mantis hot night together. Fangs is the defacto leader of the Mutants faction, she is bisexual I think or not but she makes exception for Zaton (MC), she is known to be involved sexually with the females (Pepper at least). So, basically as the leader (alpha), Fangs had to be the first to unwrap the present while did not completely ignoring or forgetting about Zaton (MC). Zaton (MC) will have his one on one interactions with Mantis, Pepper, Ivy or others later on.
I think there is a lore/narrative reason why the bunker night scene with Mantis had to involve Fangs, actually it is the other way around Zaton (MC) is encouraged and 'allowed' to join the Fangs and Mantis hot night together. Fangs is the defacto leader of the Mutants faction, she is bisexual I think or not but she makes exception for Zaton (MC), she is known to be involved sexually with the females (Pepper at least). So, basically as the leader (alpha), Fangs had to be the first to unwrap the present while did not completely ignoring or forgetting about Zaton (MC). Zaton (MC) will have his one on one interactions with Mantis, Pepper, Ivy or others later on
.Yes I hate it and it goes against the main idea of the game as power fantasy. I understand other people have different interpretation though. I'm sure some people also have same opinion as me and we will be happy if dev give option in the future to put her in her place or just execute her.goulet1995 AdAstraPerRapina
I think there is a lore/narrative reason why the bunker night scene with Mantis had to involve Fangs, actually it is the other way around Zaton (MC) is encouraged and 'allowed' to join the Fangs and Mantis hot night together. Fangs is the defacto leader of the Mutants faction, she is bisexual I think or not but she makes exception for Zaton (MC), she is known to be involved sexually with the females (Pepper at least). So, basically as the leader (alpha), Fangs had to be the first to unwrap the present while did not completely ignoring or forgetting about Zaton (MC). Zaton (MC) will have his one on one interactions with Mantis, Pepper, Ivy or others later on