Ren'Py Desert Stalker [v0.17.1.2 2024-12-30] [Zetan]

[Yngling]

I played the thermae scene again via the gallery and noticed that if the Queen is dominant, she gets a lot more handsy with Shani, which I think is hot but also makes sense politically (I'm hoping to get Shani in a position of queen-consort).

In my playthrough however, I made the Queen submissive towards Zaton.

But I would like more future content between Shani and the Queen, and if possible, have the Queen marry Shani.

What do you think? Should I go back and let the Queen be dominant?

 

[Beduin123]

That's a fair question...

Of course it's obvious that raping Kitty takes place before he's killed, at that point we don't know anything about that, so your argument there fails a bit.

But the second part about destroying a sweet innocent disabled girl raises a few other questions:

1) Why does this guy cause so much dislike / hatred? After all, the MC is an outsider to the settlement.
2) Is it fair to punish an innocent person for the misdeeds of someone close to them?
3) Is it ethical to fap to scenes which are deeply unethical?

The answer to 1, I don't have a good answer to that...

The answer to 2 is I think an obvious yes. It may be unfair but "guilt by association" is a very common thing, in some cases even punishable by law in several present-day countries. It is human nature to blame parents for the actions of their children, or even to blame entire nations for the actions of their leaders or even a few idiots (e.g. terrorists).

As for 3, well, in the end it's a porn game... Is it ethical? Obviously not. Will people still fap? Of course.

P.S., in my "canon" playthrough, I didn't rape her.

I'm not talking about ethics here, just about instincts. Kitty is an incredibly sweet thing. The General didn't do anything specially horrible to the MC. He didn't kill his family, didn't rape his daughters. What do you want to make him suffer for by inflicting suffering to Kitty?

 

[Beduin123]

And just not into Rabiah. Omar can keep her

No, I believe she had her punishment, realised her mistakes and on the way to redemption in order never ever to blueball the MC. And she is rather hot after all.

 

[Ragnar]

1) Why does this guy cause so much dislike / hatred? After all, the MC is an outsider to the settlement.

The settlement is in Zeta's zone of influence and he's not being reasonable at all. You have to deal with him or he'll be a bigger problem down the line.

2) Is it fair to punish an innocent person for the misdeeds of someone close to them?

She's a tool in that context. Taking what the General had you're sending a message to others. Cooperate or you will lose everything you have.

3) Is it ethical to fap to scenes which are deeply unethical?

It's fantasy, those charaters don't exist. Nothing wrong with fatasies as long as you can keep fantasy and reality separated in your head.

 

[rom92295]

I'm stuck and need some assistance...
I'm to the point where Shani has returned from the zone and stuck on the part where it says to "Spend time with Shani"

All other quests are progressed up to this point. And every time i visit Shani in her room all i ever get is the option to workout then giver her a massage. Ive gone through the same thing about 50 times now and nothing new happens.

Did i miss something?

 

[CellStudios]

Decided to finally try the game but it crashed

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[Yngling]

I'm not talking about ethics here, just about instincts. Kitty is an incredibly sweet thing. The General didn't do anything specially horrible to the MC. He didn't kill his family, didn't rape his daughters. What do you want to make him suffer for by inflicting suffering to Kitty?

That's the entire question.

But the devs gave the option. I did take the option to see the scene (before going back and chosing the other option) and I did find it hot.

But as Ragnar also said, Zaton's job is just to take the settlement. The General opposes that and therefore he must go. But while he does not appear to be an entirely pleasant person, to put it mildly, just stabbing him in the neck would also have solved the issue.

On a Macchiavellian level, does raping Kitty and brutally murdering the General give Zaton any future advantage? I don't really think so.

 

[Kellermann]

That's the entire question.

But the devs gave the option. I did take the option to see the scene (before going back and chosing the other option) and I did find it hot.

But as Ragnar also said, Zaton's job is just to take the settlement. The General opposes that and therefore he must go. But while he does not appear to be an entirely pleasant person, to put it mildly, just stabbing him in the neck would also have solved the issue.

On a Macchiavellian level, does raping Kitty and brutally murdering the General give Zaton any future advantage? I don't really think so.



You have to quote the whole sentence: "It may be unfair but "guilt by association" is a very common thing".

It's a human condition. Sometimes you (as an individual) agree on this "guilt by association", sometimes not. I guess it depends on the circumstances and your own opinion on these circumstances.

But perhaps I should have expressed myself better...

Don't worry mate, I get it. Don't let the gentle souls convince you otherwise. This is the desert of Zeta, this isn't some typical AVN school setting or landlady's summer home. You want to survive here? You want to be at the top of the pyramid? Then you've got to be a ruthless bastard. That means killing, maiming, fucking. Not necessarily in that order.

The kings and sultans of old knew this. You don't get to the top and maintain your position without being cold-hearted. And remember, the first to go are always those closest to power (siblings, generals, etc). Rulers typically cleaned house to solidify power once they acquired the crown.

As far as Kitty is concerned, you plough right ahead sir. If for no other reason then to unlock that scene with Asha. She is a dirty girl and a true treasure of this game.

 

[Suntec]

I played the thermae scene again via the gallery and noticed that if the Queen is dominant, she gets a lot more handsy with Shani, which I think is hot but also makes sense politically (I'm hoping to get Shani in a position of queen-consort).

In my playthrough however, I made the Queen submissive towards Zaton.

But I would like more future content between Shani and the Queen, and if possible, have the Queen marry Shani.

What do you think? Should I go back and let the Queen be dominant?

interessting! didn't even know the dev had that possible angle in mind.
would be cool to see that developed.

well... time to start a new save... for the 1000000th time

Don't worry mate, I get it. Don't let the gentle souls convince you otherwise. This is the desert of Zeta, this isn't some typical AVN school setting or landlady's summer home. You want to survive here? You want to be at the top of the pyramid? Then you've got to be a ruthless bastard. That means killing, maiming, fucking. Not necessarily in that order.

The kings and sultans of old knew this. You don't get to the top and maintain your position without being cold-hearted. And remember, the first to go are always those closest to power (siblings, generals, etc). Rulers typically cleaned house to solidify power once they acquired the crown.

As far as Kitty is concerned, you plough right ahead sir. If for no other reason then to unlock that scene with Asha. She is a dirty girl and a true treasure of this game.

apart from the stunning visuals and atmosphere one has to give credit to the insane world building in this game!
all actions of the characters and all your choices make sense in that world.

no need for lengthy bla-bla and mental gymnastics.

It is what it is, and it is fine... aslong as you don't stand in Zaton's way that is

 

[incog44]

13a has been out for a few days. No upload?

 

[Dr.Olympus]

I'm stuck and need some assistance...
I'm to the point where Shani has returned from the zone and stuck on the part where it says to "Spend time with Shani"

All other quests are progressed up to this point. And every time i visit Shani in her room all i ever get is the option to workout then giver her a massage. Ive gone through the same thing about 50 times now and nothing new happens.

Did i miss something?

Im having the same issue. is this the end of the update lads or are we missing something?

 

[Ragnar]

On a Macchiavellian level, does raping Kitty and brutally murdering the General give Zaton any future advantage? I don't really think so.

Oh yes, it does. That's the entire point of Cartel's violence for example. They record the shit they do to their enemies to instil fear in everyone.
The game world is merciless and violence is common in every settlement we have seen. You have the option to not rape the girl, I didn't, but the General had to die one way or another because he opposed Zeta and Zaton. I think the way the raiders did it was good, because nobody in that place will try anything against them after that.

 

[Son of Durin]

And just not into Rabiah. Omar can keep her

No one deserves Omar.

Bring her back into the fold, but not without a little bit of penance.

During "family time" she gets strapped naked to a frame where she's at an angle - she can see what's going on, but can't participate, and her legs are spread apart, revealing her fully, and allowing everyone to see the impact things are having on her.

Every once in a while, someone teases her clit with a feather, but just a couple of strokes. She'll be there dripping and edging for hours, until the family finally comes to her and all take their turn giving her orgasm after orgasm while she's still strapped in, with MC finishing her off with a huge creampie.

As she's there, exhausted and dripping, the family removes her straps and gently carries her to bed, ministering to her lovingly, with Nadia and Ain gently cleaning her with cool water.

Chastised, but also energized, she becomes a full and giving participant in all future family activity, readily offering all her holes for deposits by MC, and always assuring that he has his pleasure.

 

[rom92295]

Im having the same issue. is this the end of the update lads or are we missing something?

I was finally able to get it going.
I downloaded v13 again and without any mods i loaded up my last save and finally the dream sequence for Shani was triggered.
Once i was able to visit the queen again i reloaded the mod and continued on.

 

[Yngling]

interessting! didn't even know the dev had that possible angle in mind.

Well, it's just my conjecture. But it would make sense and I would like to see that path developed.

 

[Beduin123]

That's the entire question.

But the devs gave the option. I did take the option to see the scene (before going back and chosing the other option) and I did find it hot.

But as Ragnar also said, Zaton's job is just to take the settlement. The General opposes that and therefore he must go. But while he does not appear to be an entirely pleasant person, to put it mildly, just stabbing him in the neck would also have solved the issue.

On a Macchiavellian level, does raping Kitty and brutally murdering the General give Zaton any future advantage? I don't really think so.



You have to quote the whole sentence: "It may be unfair but "guilt by association" is a very common thing".

It's a human condition. Sometimes you (as an individual) agree on this "guilt by association", sometimes not. I guess it depends on the circumstances and your own opinion on these circumstances.

But perhaps I should have expressed myself better...

I think it's just an excuse to exercise someone's power over an innocent soul. I'm not trying to be moral here. It's a game after all as been said. I understand that out of curiosity we try such things. But to fantasize about it and have (save) it as a part of you main playthrough you must be a real sick fuck.

 

[indio68]

still no final release?? uff....can't wait so much..damn

 

[Aegon76]

Are there any new NTR/sharing scenes?

 

[DogBeersHadOne]

Not unless you're counting the threesome with Shani and Merneith as "sharing", no

 

[fried]

Philosophy has its limits in a game thread, such as when we're no longer talking about the game for more than a page or so.

Just sayin' ...​