Ren'Py Desert Stalker [v0.17.1.2 2024-12-30] [Zetan]

[xapican]

This sounds sooo much like troll/rage bait but fine I'll bite.

No is not, I can asure you, my intention is to have a benefical discusion without judgements, or kink shaming, I was a bit anoyed that is true , about sharing and cuckold put on the same level,besides I like to make fun or sarcastic coments, from time to time (and don't take ofense if they come in similar tone back)
not into trolling.
Good thing is that the most of users here are able to have civilized convos.
Edit: anyway, you kind of confirmed my point, athough, the cuckold kink, and the NTR are quite similar in my subjective opinion, and Xythurr also confirmed they do it because they frown about , ok thanks to all of you PickerLewd loved your reply

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

The game treats the women as your property and as their master you can choose to give someone else a taste of them. It demonstrates and reinforces your power and strength over these women and your relationsihp as the dominant man with the other men. They women do not get to say no. Like the scene with the raider girls where you can choose to let that raider guy have fun with one of them (I forget which one of them it is) she doesn't want to do it but you force her.

But that guy ends up dead, so I wonder if the Dev gave us that scene intending to kill him just to show that he wouldn´t get away with it. Withing the raiders, Kyra seems to be in charge there. Also, the women don´t get to say no, and often they seem happy to do what the MC tells them, but I get the feeling that if they said no, he would respect that. That also might be according to the way you play. If in you´re game you play as a brute as opposed to an understanding person, then he probably would just make them do the thing.

 

[Yngling]

you stroke your smol peepee

I think that violates Rule 7...

 

[Xythurr]

I think that violates Rule 7...

 

[Beduin123]

Yes he's a strong masculine figure that treats women like property. Meaning he doesn't get all pissy about sharing because he's insecure.
Nobody said anything about cucking.

What you call "insecure" is just a natural part of human social and biological norm when a man doesn't want to upbring somebodyelse's kids. Which can naturally happen, if you "share".
The only human cultures that include sharing as their normal code are those who live in harsh conditions with a scarcity of available gene pool, like the Inuit people, for example, for whom to offer their women to a stranger is a norm. That allows them to avoid inbreeding.
But my incarnation of Zaton isn't afraid of inbreeding

 

[PornSucks2011]

What you call "insecure" is just a natural part of human social and biological norm when a man doesn't want to upbring somebodyelse's kids. Which can naturally happen, if you "share".
The only human cultures that include sharing as their normal code are those who live in harsh conditions with a scarcity of available gene pool, like the Inuit people, for example, for whom to offer their women to a stranger is a norm. That allows them to avoid inbreading.
But my incarnation of Zaton isn't afraid of inbreading

Oh please with the bullshit human biological norms. The guy fucks his own daughters. That's completely normal is it?

 

[HSHS1111]

No is not, I can asure you, my intention is to have a benefical discusion without judgements, or kink shaming, I was a bit anoyed that is true , about sharing and cuckold put on the same level,besides I like to make fun or sarcastic coments, from time to time (and don't take ofense if they come in similar tone back)
not into trolling.
Good thing is that the most of users here are able to have civilized convos.
Edit: anyway, you kind of confirmed my point, athough, the cuckold kink, and the NTR are quite similar in my subjective opinion, and Xythurr also confirmed they do it because they frown about , ok thanks to all of you PickerLewd loved your reply

Well NTR is shorthand for the japanese word netorare and cuck/cuckholding is english. They are mostly the same thing in different languages although how each are expressed in each culture and media as well as on the Internet varies.

What you have to realise is that if you aren't fetishizing it the feeling of getting cheated on is pretty universally very negative. So the the discussion around it tends to be very emotionally charged. Add Internet anonymity to that and you have trolls pouring in to fan the flames and start fires for shits and giggles. Hence the preface on my previous post. And you'll have mods regularly purging (needless) discussions about it in game threads.

So to stay on topic, besides the sharing that's already in game it looks like it's setting up for Zaton to cuck Rabiah's husband.
Zaton has been portrayed as dominant throughout the game so not much cucking is going to be happening to him.
The one exception is the queen where you can choose to be submissive. I've not really explored that route though so no idea how that will play out. We know she has her own pleasure slaves. She has shown a lot of interest in Shani so "worst" case here would her doing something to/with Shani while making submissive Zaton watch.
No idea if the author ever wants/dares to go there. The sharing aspect should have already kept the purists away but experience tells me there would still be an uproar in that case.

 

[DogBeersHadOne]

Don't mind me, I'm just here to laugh at "inbreading"

 

[pigg]

Don't mind me, I'm just here to laugh at "inbreading"

 

[Master of Puppets]

Oh please with the bullshit human biological norms. The guy fucks his own daughters. That's completely normal is it?

Yes. The animal kingdom is rife with incest, and it isn't universally taboo among humans either.

 

[Coaxmetal]

Don't mind me, I'm just here to laugh at "inbreading"

I am a fan of “cuckholding”.

 

[Xythurr]

Well NTR is shorthand for the japanese word netorare and cuck/cuckholding is english. They are mostly the same thing in different languages although how each are expressed in each culture and media as well as on the Internet varies.

What you have to realise is that if you aren't fetishizing it the feeling of getting cheated on is pretty universally very negative. So the the discussion around it tends to be very emotionally charged. Add Internet anonymity to that and you have trolls pouring in to fan the flames and start fires for shits and giggles. Hence the preface on my previous post. And you'll have mods regularly purging (needless) discussions about it in game threads.

So to stay on topic, besides the sharing that's already in game it looks like it's setting up for Zaton to cuck Rabiah's husband.
Zaton has been portrayed as dominant throughout the game so not much cucking is going to be happening to him.
The one exception is the queen where you can choose to be submissive. I've not really explored that route though so no idea how that will play out. We know she has her own pleasure slaves. She has shown a lot of interest in Shani so "worst" case here would her doing something to/with Shani while making submissive Zaton watch.
No idea if the author ever wants/dares to go there. The sharing aspect should have already kept the purists away but experience tells me there would still be an uproar in that case.

Well yeah if ya want to get all "technical" about it!

 

[yuzuyo]

It's a very simple matter. Ask yourselves: why do those people enjoy sharing? The answer: they enjoy watching their significant other getting railed by someone else. So much that they touch themselves. It's the whole point.

It's not swinging, you just let someone use your wife or whatever while you watch and beat your meat. Zaton doesn't, but that specific player does, the ingame perception is irrelevant.

That being said, I ask: would masturbate watching your wife getting banged by someone else be a cuck thing? That's what it comes down to.

 

[dolfe67]

That being said, I ask: would masturbate watching your wife getting banged by someone else be a cuck thing? That's what it comes down to.

Do you play GTA or any FPS game? Then I ask: would you kill people for fun?

It's just a game, it's not my wife, I don't play a porn game to simulate my life

 

[Mfka5]

It's a very simple matter. Ask yourselves: why do those people enjoy sharing? The answer: they enjoy watching their significant other getting railed by someone else. So much that they touch themselves. It's the whole point.

It's not swinging, you just let someone use your wife or whatever while you watch and beat your meat. Zaton doesn't, but that specific player does, the ingame perception is irrelevant.

That being said, I ask: would masturbate watching your wife getting banged by someone else be a cuck thing? That's what it comes down to.

A porn game and an actual real life are two different things. What you said isnt necessarily true. There are games with necrophilia, so according to your logic, are those people psychopaths and should get arrested for watching such stuff?
Because it translates to real life as well.
Your argument is so bad.

 

[yuzuyo]

Do you play GTA or any FPS game? Then I ask: would you kill people for fun?

It's just a game, it's not my wife, I don't play a porn game to simulate my life

That's completely nonsensical. We're talking about defining fetishes, I didn't ask if you're enjoying them irl, it's completely irrelevant.

I explained what sharing boils down to. If you got offended that's your problem.

That's what sharing enjoyment comes from. Watching someone use your significant other. It's simple.

If my definition is wrong, feel free to use the correct one. But it isn't, I'm correct.

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I didn't ask if you enjoy that irl, I'm defining what it is. Feet fetish means people enjoy feet. Sharing means people enjoy THAT.

How is that hard to understand?

 

[Xythurr]

I can't believe how this thread is slowly devolving into some kinda existential debate over sharing NTR etc. I'm running out of jokes lol. While I don't watch that content myself it is clearly avoidable here.
There are other much more hardcore games the diehards should debate over. Let the rest of us enjoy the pretty desert flowers.
DMD forums are that way------->

 

[yuzuyo]

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There shouldn't be a debate in the first place. Some people just get really uppity when others dislike or like certain fetishes, to the point that they make completely ridiculous distinctions. Exhausting.

Going back to the game. I know it's supposed to come out this month, but is there a more specific date for the update?

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I know. Some people just enjoy it from outside the game's perspective. Sometimes the fetish just doesn't make a difference, it's not what "you" care about.

But there's also the NTR crowd, which clearly enjoys the parts I talked about. That's what gets them off. No doubt some of them would enjoy that irl too.

I was defining what it is and why people would like it. Without that aspect, there's no sharing, just random people fucking.

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There's a lot of overlap between naming conventions, so there's no need for them to be different things.

In fact, they are not. The only difference I COULD see is a very long reach: sharing being for anyone you're sexually active with and cuckoldry being with your wife or girlfriend. It's a reach, though.

You can read about cuckoldry on the wikipedia. It's very clear.

 

[Mfka5]

That's completely nonsensical. We're talking about defining fetishes, I didn't ask if you're enjoying them irl, it's completely irrelevant.

I explained what sharing boils down to. If you got offended that's your problem.

That's what sharing enjoyment comes from. Watching someone use your significant other. It's simple.

If my definition is wrong, feel free to use the correct one. But it isn't, I'm correct.



I didn't ask if you enjoy that irl, I'm defining what it is. Feet fetish means people enjoy feet. Sharing means people enjoy THAT.

How is that hard to understand?

Aight imma tell you on why i dont skip these scenes. It ultimately comes down to entertainment, its something new that im not used to and it invokes different kind of feeling.
It doesnt mean i would do this IRL, its the same way i find raping and grapical violence entertaining, it doesnt mean i'd do it IRL.

Other people get offended and insecure about it which to me is riddicilous, why would you even attack those fetishes in the first place

 

[xapican]

yuzuyo;thanks but you did that what originaly triggerd my question,
you put sharing and cuckolding on the same level, if it is so why having 2 different words for it?
It's ok when from your point of view they are the same or on the same level, I don't want this simple question turn into an passionate debate, I can see your point you despise both.
and thank you for your honest opinion.