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Mez55

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2) Alternately, does anyone know where the actual quest line parameters are stored? I've done minor personal modifications to another game (Valiant Warrior Astrid) but this thing is built very differently, despite having a nearly identical file structure, and I'm having trouble even finding any scene dialogue or the LST system parameters, or individual LST/SP LST quest requirements.
If you edited a game using RPGM MV before then this is not much different, the major differences is Shaso heavily uses common events and there is also a translation file with the english dialogue. (Oh, and it's all in Russian)
If you're seaching for dialogue I assume you have opened the Data folder up as a workspace in NP++ and are searching there.
(If not, let me know if you have another way of doing it)
Doing a search for english dialogue will only get hits in the translation file but immediately before the translation line will be the original line in Russian, do a search for this and that should help you find what event/map that dialogue is in.
You could either edit the translation or find the dialogue in RPGM MV and edit it directly there (if you edit dialogue there it won't try and translate it and while just display your dialogue instead.)

From what I can see LST is Control Variable 0014 and Special Lust is 0083
So if you have tools to edit the game maybe add +1 function to the Light Change "button" in the Arcade or something.

Alternatively, that Save Editor mentioned by Slight Chance above looks like a much simpler route, never tried it myself.

The thing with these variable is while they can lock you out of things your actually choices are often non-existant if you want to progress the story at all, that is not even anything to do with opening H-scenes.
That is this games major weakness imo, a lack of choice. There is no "Will you let Noemi become corrupted?" Noemi is going to become a whore if you want to progress further.
Ironically, the Prison sequence is the one where the player actually has the most choice and freedom concerning what happens to Noemi.
Shame the rest of the game doesn't have that.

That whining aside, I would still recommend Dilmur.
 
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After I posted, I methodically went through the variables via an online Save Editor and did in fact find 83 was SPL LST. I will likely go back to some of my earlier saves (if I have any left that I haven't overwritten) and try to get earlier quests to pop but, oddly enough, no variable, including 14, when modified, modified LST from 17 to 20, which I thought odd.

I had noticed that there was very little choice, especially if you miss LST and SPL LST.

I agree the prison does have some of the best parts of this story. Her dread and disgust over the inevitability of her walking willfully into the prison commander's bed to lose her cherry (only if she d/n get the drug counteragent, I assume), and her following regular use by him, is especially effectively written.

I actually wish they c/n remove the barcode, but I guess it would have made issues, it would be easy to burn off a tatoo, and she would want that reminder gone.

TYVM for your help! I will go back and see again if I can get V14 to budge LST.

EDIT: there is an ability to progress things without completely going to whoreing around.

For instance, you have two options how to deal with the judge for the beauty contest you can actually go with him to the bedroom, which produces the initial expected results, or you can go to the warehouse and skip all of that and get the victory.

There was also an alternate way to get away from the fake police in the car as I initially didn't have the SPL LST to seduce them.

Theoretically, you can move forward in SOME things somewhat clean , but yeah. Not sure why you'd want to be chaste, of course :cool:. Something something roleplaying, I guess. Maybe stay pure until not given a choice by outside forces..
 
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If you edited a game using RPGM MV before then this is not much different, the major differences is Shaso heavily uses common events and there is also a translation file with the english dialogue. (Oh, and it's all in Russian)
If you're seaching for dialogue I assume you have opened the Data folder up as a workspace in NP++ and are searching there.
(If not, let me know if you have another way of doing it)
Doing a search for english dialogue will only get hits in the translation file but immediately before the translation line will be the original line in Russian, do a search for this and that should help you find what event/map that dialogue is in.
You could either edit the translation or find the dialogue in RPGM MV and edit it directly there (if you edit dialogue there it won't try and translate it and while just display your dialogue instead.)

From what I can see LST is Control Variable 0014 and Special Lust is 0083
So if you have tools to edit the game maybe add +1 function to the Light Change "button" in the Arcade or something.

Alternatively, that Save Editor mentioned by Slight Chance above looks like a much simpler route, never tried it myself.

The thing with these variable is while they can lock you out of things your actually choices are often non-existant if you want to progress the story at all, that is not even anything to do with opening H-scenes.
That is this games major weakness imo, a lack of choice. There is no "Will you let Noemi become corrupted?" Noemi is going to become a whore if you want to progress further.
Ironically, the Prison sequence is the one where the player actually has the most choice and freedom concerning what happens to Noemi.
Shame the rest of the game doesn't have that.

That whining aside, I would still recommend Dilmur.
BTW,

VWA made HEAVY use of CommonEvents file. Most dialogue was in there. I used Wordpad to open it.

Only issues I had w/it was not understanding how quest choices processed, as I wanted to modify outcomes on one choice, but couldn't, only make changes thst affected the other choice, and I c/n add a link for the alt choice to a bad end cutscene that had no gallery entry. I also was kind of confused how the hell you added a gallery entry, although I did see the map I didn't see how they linked things to it.

IIRC, I was able to modify requirements of the shame system for that game, but I no longer remember how I did it.

Anyway, that's water under the bridge. Sucks VWA died.
 

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There was obviously an alternate way to get away from the fake police in the car as I initially didn't have the SPL LST to seduce them. Theoretically, you can move forward somewhat clean , but yeah. Not sure why you'd want to be chaste, of course :cool:. Something something roleplaying, I guess.
The whole Chaste option thing is really just so you have the choice. Ultimately everyone is going to play the slut play through at least once, just to see all the scenes but yes, I am more enclined to think of how the character would react. Like not throwing Rufina under the bus, although you do pay for another "short" person to take her place at least it's not your friend and Rufina had already gone through enough with the coffee shop owner.
I personally would like to be able stay well clear of Calix. He has no redeeming qualities, spoilled rich kid, bought his body, was living off of Mothers money and then wants to live off of exploiting Noemi. Not to mention pulling his gun on her. He's just a total wrong'un but the game author clearly likes him.

Anyway, I might edit my game in a similar way.
 
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The whole Chaste option thing is really just so you have the choice. Ultimately everyone is going to play the slut play through at least once, just to see all the scenes but yes, I am more enclined to think of how the character would react. Like not throwing Rufina under the bus, although you do pay for another "short" person to take her place at least it's not your friend and Rufina had already gone through enough with the coffee shop owner.
I personally would like to be able stay well clear of Calix. He has no redeeming qualities, spoilled rich kid, bought his body, was living off of Mothers money and then wants to live off of exploiting Noemi. Not to mention pulling his gun on her. He's just a total wrong'un but the game author clearly likes him.

Anyway, I might edit my game in a similar way.
I didn't even have the SPL LST to throw Rufina under the bus. So yeah hired another Pro. And like you said that's pretty much how a normal person would respond, instead of tossing their friend to the wolves.

Now, Ayol getting triple teamed in the bathroom so that you can get out makes sense because at that point she has no other contribution to the escape attempt while you actually have things to do. OtOH, you doing it gives it that special, personal touch.
Only thing I found disappointing about that scene is they didn't get all three at once just two spitroasting you or Ayol, with one always complaining offsides. They could have had you in the same position with a guy below. Talk about fumbling the catch. Blame it on the refractory period, I guess.

Calix is just gross. And stupid. But mildly unavoidable.
 

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Now, Ayol getting triple teamed in the bathroom so that you can get out makes sense because at that point she has no other contribution to the escape attempt while you actually have things to do. OtOH, you doing it gives it that special, personal touch.
Only thing I found disappointing about that scene is they didn't get all three at once just two spitroasting you or Ayol, with one always complaining offsides. They could have had you in the same position with a guy below. Talk about fumbling the catch. Blame it on the refractory period, I guess.
That one I want to edit by removing, or at least lowering, the sexual experience requirement and editing some of the images so all 3 holes are used. Won't be able to get so she is triple teamed but might be able to make some of the scenes anal.
If I removed the requirement completely it would also mean I would need to amend the Virginity Lost to variable, which might prove too much for my knowledge.
 
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That one I want to edit by removing, or at least lowering, the sexual experience requirement and editing some of the images so all 3 holes are used. Won't be able to get so she is triple teamed but might be able to make some of the scenes anal.
If I removed the requirement completely it would also mean I would need to amend the Virginity Lost to variable, which might prove too much for my knowledge.
You mean virginity of the rear access? Assuming she has had the front filled by Ampelius, already, ofc, that would leave tailpipe virginity only.
 

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You mean virginity of the rear access? Assuming she has had the front filled by Ampelius,
You actually need a bit more than have just lost your virginity, like you need have had sex a fair few times. The idea with this change was that Noemi might be expecting to just service them orally. I don't recall if you are ever actually told that you will be kinda pulling a train.
I don't know if there is a "flag" for "tailpipe" virginity as you eloquently put it :D
I might create a duplicate and run that through Translator, this will break the scripts so wouldn't be playable but might make it easier to see what is going on.

My thought was to edit the images in photoshop so and adding some backdoor action, not sure how that will work out.
 

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You actually need a bit more than have just lost your virginity, like you need have had sex a fair few times. The idea with this change was that Noemi might be expecting to just service them orally. I don't recall if you are ever actually told that you will be kinda pulling a train.
I don't know if there is a "flag" for "tailpipe" virginity as you eloquently put it :D
I might create a duplicate and run that through Translator, this will break the scripts so wouldn't be playable but might make it easier to see what is going on.

My thought was to edit the images in photoshop so and adding some backdoor action, not sure how that will work out.
I seem to recall that either girl was a bit surprised by how things worked out, but it might just have been the extremely uncomfortable position they were put in. They have to figure (IIRC they had some clue) if they're going with three men, that they're GOING with three men. Yet another of those little inevitabilities building tension: they KNOW (and dread) they're walking into being the lamb to the sexual slaughter.
 
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Hi, I want to ask about the dilmur game, I experienced an error, it said kernel32 error, I'm using win7 btw, is there a solution for that error? Thanks
 
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