Discussion between Unity and Ren'Py

woody554

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not giving you any personal data unless absolutely have to. for shady business like porn games this goes 100x more. all such schemes should be outlawed for data security, and it's fairly amazing we still haven't done it despite a colossal pandemic of scams and various forms of cyber crime.
 

rodrigosarri

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not giving you any personal data unless absolutely have to. for shady business like porn games this goes 100x more. all such schemes should be outlawed for data security, and it's fairly amazing we still haven't done it despite a colossal pandemic of scams and various forms of cyber crime
You look very worried man, relax, because if you did not access this site with a browser that uses VPN and is in an anonymous tab, they already know more about you than you think.

I am not a teenager who wants to know user data and if I were to make the game with registration I would be using the recommendations of the CCPA.
 

khumak

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Only with uncompressed png files, (VN) updates that big that aren't native 4k are simply unoptimized.
Definitely. My mod used to be over 700MB until someone suggested an easy way to compress my images. I was a bit skeptical but after trying it, my mod is more like 50-70MB now and I can't even tell any difference in image quality. There's really no reason not to compress your images unless you're doing something like offering up some of your original, high res, uncompressed renders as a Patreon reward or something. Maybe some 4k wallpapers or something?
 

rodrigosarri

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Maybe some 4k wallpapers or something?
I believe that the size I mentioned would be because of video animations.

In the case of this game, I think about making a lot of animations, not only about sex, but showing the new place as a new neighborhood, new characters, among other things.
 

khumak

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I believe that the size I mentioned would be because of video animations.

In the case of this game, I think about making a lot of animations, not only about sex, but showing the new place as a new neighborhood, new characters, among other things.
If you're talking about real porn games like those 10GB+ QSP games that are mostly based around a collection of real porn videos then yeah I could see the size getting really huge. If you mean games based on renders though, even animations are still just a collection of individual frames linked together and each of those frames can be compressed to something like 10% of it's original size without really losing any noticeable detail. If you're really going crazy on the animations like Being a DIK or something then it'll still get pretty big but most people don't have anywhere near that volume of images in their games. They're just not compressing them.

I could see releasing both a compressed and an uncompressed version of the game if people really want it but there's really not enough content in most of the games on this site to justify more than a few GB compressed unless it includes a lot of real porn videos. A lot of the games on this site you'll see a 5+GB official release and then someone in the comments will put up a compressed version that is less than 1GB and I can't tell any difference in quality. For a RenPy game that takes like 5 minutes to do. I imagine there's probably a similarly easy option for other engines but haven't personally done it for anything but RenPy.
 

rodrigosarri

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If you're talking about real porn games like those 10GB+ QSP games that are mostly based around a collection of real porn videos then yeah I could see the size getting really huge. If you mean games based on renders though, even animations are still just a collection of individual frames linked together and each of those frames can be compressed to something like 10% of it's original size without really losing any noticeable detail. If you're really going crazy on the animations like Being a DIK or something then it'll still get pretty big but most people don't have anywhere near that volume of images in their games. They're just not compressing them.

I could see releasing both a compressed and an uncompressed version of the game if people really want it but there's really not enough content in most of the games on this site to justify more than a few GB compressed unless it includes a lot of real porn videos. A lot of the games on this site you'll see a 5+GB official release and then someone in the comments will put up a compressed version that is less than 1GB and I can't tell any difference in quality. For a RenPy game that takes like 5 minutes to do. I imagine there's probably a similarly easy option for other engines but haven't personally done it for anything but RenPy.
Got it, thanks for the contribution. I will research about compression can help a lot
 

woody554

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You look very worried man, relax, because if you did not access this site with a browser that uses VPN and is in an anonymous tab, they already know more about you than you think.

I am not a teenager who wants to know user data and if I were to make the game with registration I would be using the recommendations of the CCPA.
it's your choice to ignore what everyone else has said as well. not sure why you even asked though as you seem to have already decided to go ahead with it.
 

rodrigosarri

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decided to go ahead
Research, in the area where I work, research is always welcome, regardless of the result.

And no, I didn't decide to go ahead with "that", I can take that as an option or just remove it.

I like to read comments from those who are going to "buy" the product, as I commented in another post, if you can't go that way, patience, there are other ways, anyway, for now it's just a survey.
 

fidless

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My project with png is ~5gb, compressed to webp, ~1gb.
 

fidless

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Interesting to know, I really didn't have that knowledge of webp images that are so smaller in size
PNG 1.67mb / webp 247kb
Quality is almost the same. Maybe some bright colors a little off, but it's not a big issue.

rodrigosarri
You can check the attached file. Can't upload here F95 does not recognize webp or the way I compress png to webp doesn't work with the site.
The lower size image shows it's png, but actually, it's webp. That's because rpgm can't read webp, so it's a little trick to make this format work with it.

P.S this webp is lower quality image, ~75-85%.
 
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Droid Productions

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Note that unity doesn't support WebP out of the box (and while it's possible to integrate it, you do lose some of the native unity image functionality).
 

anne O'nymous

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Would you register (name, email and country) to play an adult game?
Absolutely not.


Would you like to receive a game update in a single installation instead of having to download the game whenever a new version is released?
It depend.


With Unity it would be possible to do these two things, but not with Ren'Py, because Re'Py today has no "connection" to the Internet and has no intention of having that in the future.
Well, perhaps should your colleague and yourself start by learning the subject before debating about what engine would be the best to use.

Ren'py have a that permit you to update the game from a distant website, and it's far to be something new since it was already present in the version 6.14, released 8 and half years ago. It's not used because it need a website, and don't really works well with a Patreon-like business model ; you need to link the game or the hosting site to Patreon in order to limit who can download the update, what is too much of works for indie devs who don't know much about codding and networks.
Ren'py also come with the default Python modules, so it's perfectly possible, without any addition, to make your own login feature ; a site that distribute Turkish translation add such process in top of their version of the games. There's even a game (now abandoned ?) available here that include a quickly wrote chat feature.

So effectively, there's no intention to add Internet feature into Ren'py in the future, but it's because it have them already since at least near to a decade.
 
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