Luckzor
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I don't know, maybe I did something wrong. Because the clone with one hit make me like 100 damage and mine did 10. Still not complaining. haha, Later I'll see what I did wrong.
Ghostface Reborn
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Ghostface Reborn
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i'm not seeing those options. here's what i'm seeing:
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Still, I think that clones hp is a bit of overkill since you have to resort to bombs if you want to finish it in timely manner. I fell like 1k or 700 would be more than enough to not make it into slogfest.
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Funny thing; did the clone fight with 100 base hp and 300 ki using self training, custom form just forcibly sets my HP to 400 and costs 20 ki, so I just spammed the Custom 3 (which RESTORES 10 ki after you power down) then use custom form again (instantly power down but still fills HP back up) and continue to spam Custom 3 until hp gets low, rinse and repeat. No items, zero danger of losing.
Yeah this one-off RPG mini-game garbage is terribly coded lol.
Yeah this one-off RPG mini-game garbage is terribly coded lol.
Illustrivity
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See the thing is, you say that but there are people on our patreon complaining that it's too hard. The custom form effect is completely intended because I knew this would happen. I made a poll yesterday asking about the difficulty of the battle and a good number of people claimed it was too hard. Then we have people here claiming it's too easy. It's quite an interesting observation haha.
It's mix of poor balance and questionable decisions. Like not anyone would figure out that using transformation is a method of healing (Why would they think that?) and senzus are red herring, as in they have no use at all, but you would think that they should be a healing item.
Then there is his hp vs your damage and your hp vs his damage. If you don't bring bombs then you are going to be sitting there for a while, assuming that you figured out healing, but if you believe in senzus, then you are just going to die, doubly so if you didn't use any transformation. Also this minigame makes your character feel really weak. I mean seriously, you had to introduce bombs to make it bearable (people who selected Whis would be sitting there for quite a while without them, if they had patience for that). The moment you had to come up with bombs should be a red flag, that maybe this minigame isn't best idea.
Personally I think it's disappointing time waster as it is right now. Enemy has too much hp for your damage, you can spam transformations/special attacks as often as you want since ki is nonfactor (why is it even there?) and your previous training doesn't impact it in any way. It gives feeling of something unfished that was put in last moment.
I wonder, what people are complaining about when they say it's too hard? Is it him being able to kill you in 2 hits without transformation? Or is it main character hitting like a wet noodle?
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Hmm this is a very good point. Nicely put as well, I'll look into how we can fix this for the future.
Theookta
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Miðgarðsormr
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The battle with the clone was way to easy for my taste but its not like this game is made for its battle mechanics. But i have found some issues that make no sense as well as explaining to everyone how to easy beat the clone.
1. Senzu beans should heal all of your HP and KI as for now they don't do either of it.
2. While tuffle bombs do alot of damae i dont get why it makes sense to use them. So technology is stronger then the god of destruction? WHAT??????
3. For some odd reason transformations heal you. That makes no sense.
4. Super Attacks do less damage even in highest transformed state then tuffle bombs. Just no. That doesn't even make sense inside the lore of the game. No one is stronger then the MC aside from angels, the Grand Priest, Zeno guards and Zeno himself. If a bomb makes more dmg then the god of destruction he is literally useless.
For the people having problems with the battle and chose vados as trainer.
1. Transform to highest form
2. Eat 1 or 2 Kai Fruits. (you can buy them from Kaioshin)
3. Tuffle bomb the clone till you run out of transformation or HP.
4. Either eat senzu beans (Wish for them through dragonballs) or charge KI and repeat from step 1.
Other then that i like the game even tough i wished the Art Style would be better and you could repeat already seen scenes from the past or even redo them.
Also Vados needs to be made fuckable already. All this penis inspection should at least make her curious and blowjobs alone should not suffice xD
1. Senzu beans should heal all of your HP and KI as for now they don't do either of it.
2. While tuffle bombs do alot of damae i dont get why it makes sense to use them. So technology is stronger then the god of destruction? WHAT??????
3. For some odd reason transformations heal you. That makes no sense.
4. Super Attacks do less damage even in highest transformed state then tuffle bombs. Just no. That doesn't even make sense inside the lore of the game. No one is stronger then the MC aside from angels, the Grand Priest, Zeno guards and Zeno himself. If a bomb makes more dmg then the god of destruction he is literally useless.
For the people having problems with the battle and chose vados as trainer.
1. Transform to highest form
2. Eat 1 or 2 Kai Fruits. (you can buy them from Kaioshin)
3. Tuffle bomb the clone till you run out of transformation or HP.
4. Either eat senzu beans (Wish for them through dragonballs) or charge KI and repeat from step 1.
Other then that i like the game even tough i wished the Art Style would be better and you could repeat already seen scenes from the past or even redo them.
Also Vados needs to be made fuckable already. All this penis inspection should at least make her curious and blowjobs alone should not suffice xD
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Is is possible to replay scenes from the story line? After the game is finished there are no more H-scenes or anyone to do it with?